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I really don't think the average voter is wondering where their extra $600 is. Prove me wrong.
So the losers should just shut up then because it is what it is.
Got it.
No! Because amidst a comprehensive 600 page bill that has tons of benefits because they missed on an extra 600 dollars it's an issue! /s
I'm pretty sure the people complaining about $600 and saying who cares about all the other shit are the ones demeaning other people's circumstances.
Biden is the first Dem prez in >50 years to not run away from FDR's legacy. And it's largely due to pressure from progressives! There's tons more to do, but people need to take the win. You out-Neil'd him!
Have you read that bill? I'm sure if you did you'd find things to criticize as well. Idk why you guys get so defensive when ppl want better out of their government.
Did you find anything bad in the bill? By and by large, it's good stuff throughout most of it.
no not really? I too could use that extra $600 as well. So pls continue to be presumptuous assholes.
I guess my question is what do you think is the policy case for $600 extra in direct payments to individuals over doing all the other things that this bill does, because I simply don't see it.
If you personally come out worse because of the policy decision made, that's unfortunate and I hope that the economic boost that this gives the country as a whole results in an improved working situation for you soon, but I still think that the targeted relief that they are offering with this bill is a better alternative to an extra $600/person in individual payments across the board.
"Why not both?" isn't a particularly salient answer (and frankly neither is the extra $600 in the first place, given the political realities)...
It's hard to remember many bills with 70+% public support in general. Obamacare and the 2009 stimulus weren't even close.
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why would I need to read the bill when I specifically already have a problem with a provision that directly affects me? The point of my post is that to blindly defend the bill is kinda disingenuous when people like me need more assistance that this bill will not provide.
So it's all about fuck you, where's my shit? Never mind that this is literally the most progressive bill in any of our lifetimes, $600 less than you were expecting is the big takeaway, right?
Never mind, you're last post literally says that's the problem.
The GOP's brainwashing on that really worked on some people and the benefits were a bit confusing right away, so I understand why the public support was less than 70%. The American Rescue Plan at least has clear and immediate benefits that will come out right away.
You're actually contributing nothing, you're actively taking an antagonistic point and willfully ignoring the entire contents of this bill over $600. There's a shitton of assistance going out with this bill that isn't a check.
Several days ago I was lamenting how long the relief bill was taking so this is great news.
People always gotta bring the mood down.
People always gotta bring the mood down.
I think they'll start late next week based on what I've read.
Possibly as early as next week.
For anyone sharing EloquentM's viewpoint, here's a rundown of some of the points of relief in this bill.
i'm not ignoring a thing. You guys somehow think criticism and acceptance of adequacy is somehow opposing ideas. You can do both at the same time. It's not an either or situation. The ideas are not mutually exclusive. You guys are so hostile and yet ignoring that people STILL need help. That's why the 600$ keeps coming up.
I disagree. I think "Why not both" is a very valid answer. We should consistently be demanding more of the people in charge even if one party is far and away better than the other.
However, my personal issue isn't with the $600. It is with the UI boost. The extension is great but it should have been more than $400 when this bill was first put out there. To have it then stay at $300, in my opinion, is terrible. There are many people without children in this country who have been jobless for almost a year at this point. The fact that (because of Republicans), there was no UI boost from September to January and no regular stimulus checks means that there are many, many people in this country who are in very difficult situations. There are multiple posters here on Era who have put themselves in that category for a number of reasons.
This is fantastic bill overall. It does an immense amount of good. But it is absolutely fine to criticise specific elements of it and it is fair to call out democrats who misled or straight up lied about what the checks would be.
Coming into the thread to be a snarky jerk and flatly shit on the bill and/or democrats as one or two people did is childish. That adds nothing to do the discussion. But there are valid complaints to be had and shutting those complaints down with "it is what it is" is pretty poor form as well.
Did the unemployment tax credit come through with this? If so I'd have to file an amended return right? (even if I already got my refund)
Hopefully this is just the beginning and not a one and done thing, a lot of this stuff should be permanent.
Hopefully this is just the beginning and not a one and done thing, a lot of this stuff should be permanent.
I could use a hell of a lot more than that $600 and yet I don't have much interest in being negative whereas that's all some want to be.
so what is your point.
They didn't expect to get the official bill from Congress that fast
The last bill was signed on Dec. 27 and I got it electronically deposited on Jan. 2. Hopefully just as fast, but could be slower given the IRS is now in the middle of tax season.
You're blindly attacking the bill when you just admitted to only knowing the one part that affects you. Back it up.
Rn approval for the bill is pretty high among americans according to polling. Approval for biden is pretty high at 60 percent too.
If you asked every american, wouldn't you want more? By large it would be yes, but if your assertion is that this bill is a negative optics for democrats, you should provide more information and stats.
The point is it's not enough. Our government is leaving us out to dry, giving us crumbs, and everyone would rather roll over.
my UI benefits, tax credit, and student loans forbearance aren't enough either. Your government can do more, so demand it.
It might be good to read the bill because there are things in there that could help you. I don't know your situation, but one example I can see... if you were on unemployment in 2020, the first $10,200 of UI is tax free. That is a savings of over $600 depending on your circumstances.
The bill is very good hell it even added 60 billion in revenue on companies with executive compensation over 1 million. No bill or legislation is perfect and if we had 60 democrats in the senate the bill would be even greater and we wouldn't even need to do this via budget reconciliation. There are way bigger things to fry and some people continually make this one point of Mismessaging as being something that negates how massive this bill is and how many people it impacts in a positive manner. There's way better shit to criticize Dems for but this is like missing the forest amongst the trees.
Yes the $10k tax-free UI made it in. Not sure on the process needed to claim it.
How does this work if the dependent has already filed their 2020 taxes? We're approaching mid March here so some of them may have already done itThey can get the $600 with the recovery rebate credit for the 2020 taxes.
They also mention the original $1200. I'm not positive about that one, however.
Are you old enough to receive a stimulus check? What it takes to qualify as an adult
Are you eligible to get your own stimulus check, contribute to your family's overall amount or get no money at all? We'll tell you how the eligibility rules for the third stimulus payment apply to you.www.cnet.com
Good thing this isn't crumbs.
This bill represents a 20% after-tax income increase to the lowest-income Americans.
This bill is massive relative to both the modern history of the US, and to what almost every other country has implemented.
Read that part one more time.
But yeah, "crumbs." Give me a break.
How the $1.9 trillion U.S. stimulus package compares with other countries’ coronavirus spending
President Joe Biden's $1.9 trillion relief package is mammoth in scope. But amid a pandemic that has wrought severe economic damage around the world, many governments have made dramatic spending pledges. Here's how U.S. measures stack up.
www.seattletimes.com
Lmfao. I can't believe they didn't even read the bill or even look up all the damn synopses on it especially with the monthly payment aspect in ways and the economic impacts. Hilarious.
My Birthday is on the 22nd, hoping to get the money by then.
Now if only finding a PS5 wasn't an impossible task.
Now if only finding a PS5 wasn't an impossible task.
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