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Pokémon Sword and Shield launch event in Japan cancelled for "operational reasons"
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There's also how there's no information of the service that will basically have your pokemon from here on out locked. If they explained or even created a cool Home game (like a showdown thing or something), they could have really reduced the backlash a lot. Now we don't know anything about the service...
Yep. It's almost like this cancellation might actually be due to operational reasons like stated.
You got this off Reddit, huh?The first "console" Pokémon game was supposed to be a triumph for the series but instead it's a half-baked uprezzed 3DS game that doesn't even include half of the Pokédex.
It's stupid to use this pic when all you have to do is throw circumstance and understanding out the window.
Oh, for goodness sake...Yes, there are idiots protesting the Dex cut. If we're going to use the fact that a few idiots aren't happy with the Dex cut as a means to silence perfectly valid criticism against the declining quality of the franchise, then we might as well all admit that Sonic 06 or Fallout 76 is a 10/10 masterpiece, because I'm pretty sure that game has its fair share of idiotic critics.
I swear to god that I hear a new thing being put forth that was supposed to be GF's main defense every other day at this point.
I think everybody is taking a big jump into conclusions by thinking for sure that the event was canceled because of Dexit backlash. There's no evidence for that besides pure speculation, and it's obvious that the article would try to paint it like that because it's the most interesting story.
The call off was probably due to (boring) operational reasons like the official statement says, and here we are again at each other's necks because of literally nothing.
The call off was probably due to (boring) operational reasons like the official statement says, and here we are again at each other's necks because of literally nothing.
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Oh I know there are perfectly reasonable people who don't like what Sword and Shield did.
It just doesn't make the overall response any less embarrassing.
User Banned (5 days): Inflammatory false equivalence
The whole thing is just a low level gamergate situation with people believing their fighting for a good cause while not really looking at certain people using the group for underhanded means.
Sadly, this is the world we live in.
Can you imagine being this upset over a video game? It's really sad.
I still have yet to hear an actual good reason for half of the Pokédex to be missing.
So this sentiment has popped up a few times and I think people would be more sympathetic if GF didnt contradict themselves. Pokemon LGPE came out last year with all 151 pokemon with hi res textures. Yet only around
50
It'd be one thing if they said that they weren't able to get the pokemon in this game but would carry their progress forward until an engine swap or other large changes.
The only way this would ever happen is if Sword and Shield show a significant downturn in sales, which probably won't happen.
Game Freak really doesn't seem interested in fan feedback. For better or worse, they do what they feel is best.
You don't think there's a good reason. I won't argue with you, not worth the time.
It's nevertheless a great thread for posting memes from Reddit complete with a hyperbolic hot take!
Thanks Eurogamer! /s.
Yup. I've seen so many "why don't people get this? Game Freak made it clear that the reason for the cuts is" and every time the end of the sentence is different. Nobody can agree other than "they just wanted to".
I would say his initial reasoning was the most honest followed by mountains of bad ones
Either way they don't need a reason to want to drop the anchor. If I was a dev... at some point I would want to start fresh and not make 800+ pokemon for the Nth time
The fact you cannot FATHOM a reason on your own is telling
This doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. Everyone on these threads actually condemns the harassment and toxic behavior of some bad apples, so your point about "looking away" it's just false from the get go.
Poor management and the wrong priorities imo.
I mean you can tell from a lot of recent interviews from high level GF employees that they have some... weird ideas about development to say the least.
Really? We're really doing this now? What do you want from us exactly?
Do we need to add a disclaimer to every post criticizing GF that we don't condone the harassment of developers? Again any group is going to have idiots amongst them. What's the point of pointing this out other then to try and discredit anyone who complains about the company? We have just as much control of these people as you do.
They didnt say anything about silencing anybody ?
Not the poster nor the tweet itself(which i think is a bot that reposts tagged tweets ?)
The thing up is what i meant.
Poster didnt say anything about people not being allowed to complain, they didnt say anything about complaining at all.
But even just pointing out that bad people in the dexit movement exist is being takes as "silencing".
If all of the Gen 1 Pokemon had come back, people would complain even more.
Yep. You think fan backlash is big in America, Manby rage is at a whole nother level in Japan.
That should be reason enough
Doesn't mean you have to agree and clearly the critics aren't having it
I personally don't take issue with it as long as it frees them up to do something new but even that feels dubious.
I certainly don't care much for some of the new things being done in Sword/Shield but then again I dont hate the entire package either
I not looking to push down on proper criticism, I'm reminding us where there problems in the community they is making the whole nationaldex fight worse.
Throwing out 20 years of precedent, somehow not including all of Gen 1 despite the Let's Go games, and still making a par for the course unremarkable game reeks of poor management and a rushed development.
I meant that early one that's what I saw coming from the defenders in the community. GF's actual message has been all over the place and that's most of the reason they haven't been able to contain the backlash. I personally probably wouldn't be holding it against them if they actually just explained what happened during this game's development that caused it to turn out the way it did instead of giving answers that are largely indistinguishable from blatant lies.
But this isn't what this thread is about really.
Bingo
However I suspect we will fundamentally disagree on where they should go for the next game but maybe not?
I dont hate everything Sword and Shield has to offer but man is it underwhelming compared to what other comtemporary franchises are doing with regards to updating their formula
What I'm hoping for as well.
Not expecting to get any pokemon back in SWSH through DLC sadly.
I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about your comments on GF's position. But I apologize, you were talking about the fandom in your original post and I didn't see that.
Not exactly. The Pokemon that did return seem to be using the same models as Sun and Moon and there's been more cut features than added ones (Elite Four, post-game areas, GTS, triple/rotation battles). There are also some new additions but they seem to largely be lateral moves (e.g. Mega Evolutions -> Gigantamaxing).
One of the selling points of the game is a big open "Wild Area" in the middle of the map you can visit to look for Pokemon which isn't by itself a bad idea, but I think people are frustrated since if you gave the option of cutting 60% of the old pokemon and a bunch of vital features for it, few would likely take you up on it.
That's how I feel at least.
Remakes YES
Future Mainline? I want to see some time spent fucking upending the status quo
It's too late I already projected my opinion on this event with no proof and now you're all gonna have to read it.
All good. The thread is pretty heated and everyone's on edge.
Too many times communities ignore these problematic areas and never actually push them out.
I think it's more that TPCi won't let that happen with the anime, TCG, and extensive push of merch relying on these games to generate new Pokemon/characters. Unless sales truly dip even below their expectations, I don't think Gamefreak has much of a choice in this. It would be nice though.
The good news here is that mods have been policing the dexit topics very well with multiple bans for both sides, so if someone is still able to post in this topic that means they weren't being toxic.
I assure you it's not the case here, given most complaints or notes that imply one does not support Game Freak's decision will be met with comparisons about the elements that threatened the developers' lives.
The Pokemon Company is a joint investment by Nintendo, Gamefreak and Creatures Inc. Nintendo has just as much say over Pokemon as Gamefreak and Creatures Inc do
Reigned in for what? They release consistently well reviewed and incredibly well selling games almost every year or with no delays.
I think some people would, but if GF communicated properly why they included all of them than it would go over a lot better than cutting them even though the majority (if not all of the work) has already been done to make them hd ready.
What do you mean "reign GF in"? Nintendo doesn't make all the calls. It's a joint venture.
They don't really have a choice with the release schedule, but there are plenty of examples of how other companies treat yearly releases without having to constantly cut the scope or work the devs to the bone.
It's pretty clear Game Freak need more teams at this point so that one can work on the next generation games for an extended period of time while the other deals with the requisite remakes and third versions. I know they already work on multiple games simultaneously as it is, but clearly they need to do more since for the entire 3DS era these games have been coming out half-baked.
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