The PS5's SSD isn't gonna have much impact on 3rd party games beyond loading times because they still have to take XSX and PC into account. The only games which are gonna take full advantage of the SSD are PS5 exclusives.
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PlayStation Worldwide Studios |OT Se7en| What's in the box?
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No, but once more concrete details are out, a more concise picture is formed. And I honestly don't know how games will compare between the two, but I highly doubt you'll put them side by side and think "Geez, PS5 version looks like ass".
care to tell us one multiplat game that has this huge difference on any console ever? :)
it's gonna be the same game, like the pro/X versions on the xbox1/ps4 base. ps5 might have faster to no loads, that's all.
I know. That's exactly what I was saying. Expecting developers to make an entirely distinct PS5 version of every multiplatform game is absurd.
I'm still on board to get one at some point only became they are my favorite publisher. Those launch games better be legendary though or I'm going X first.
I understand that you are disappointed with what you saw, but do you really think this is the PS5 marketing ad? This was more of a developer talk. We will shortly get the announcement to the masses regarding the games, DS5 and other features that were not mentioned. I repeat, of course, if what you expected is to see games you will not be happy. But the duality of is great / trash seems very unreasonable to me.
All these developers that praise Mark Cerny and according to Jason Schreier are extremely excited for the PS5 Hardware while we have armchair devs on here like "well I just looked at this graph and this is a disaster of a console, and there's no way they actually take advantage of these features"
Do you know the final design of PS5 ? :P
But yeah huge disappointment by this communication, a big mistake has been made today
Lol nah, never said that. My biggest wish was bc and it seems lacking which is why I bought most 3rd parties on xbox. I'm just thinking big picture
I am surprised by PS5 specs reception in this forum,has been mostly tame,I was expecting a lot of meltdowns especially here,but I think most of us understand the final hardware is great,not as powerful as the Xbox but still great and the games again will be the most important,the good thing I take from that is Sony will have to run and delivery more quality games and content to counter Series X,Microsoft is not joking,competition is always good.
not that i'm aware. it's a shitshow.
i almost dropped when i read people saying that there's no Ps4 BC.
The same way y'all say the ppl that aren't to happy need to take a break...maybe it's indeed y'all that need a break. Cuz you can't say anything bad bout playstation up in here
No reason not to. Like no reason why Red Dead isn't looking better on XBX.
A summary of Sony's backwards compatibility messaging these last two weeks:
"PS5's BC is a work in progress while our competitor's is virtually fully fleshed out. We're looking at your CODs, Maddens and Fortnites and all of these should be playable. We understand a lot of fans really want to see full BC or even enhancements to legacy PlayStation games. We hear you and we get it - 7 years of spending on our ecosystem might be important to those select few dedicated fans. For that reason, we're pleased to announce Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, arriving this summer. At 4K/60 with ultrawide support, it will be the definitive version of one of your favorite PlayStation Classics! Our team over at Guerrilla has more to come on that. You can expect to see more legacy PlayStation games receive similar, quality treatment on the PC."
"PS5's BC is a work in progress while our competitor's is virtually fully fleshed out. We're looking at your CODs, Maddens and Fortnites and all of these should be playable. We understand a lot of fans really want to see full BC or even enhancements to legacy PlayStation games. We hear you and we get it - 7 years of spending on our ecosystem might be important to those select few dedicated fans. For that reason, we're pleased to announce Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, arriving this summer. At 4K/60 with ultrawide support, it will be the definitive version of one of your favorite PlayStation Classics! Our team over at Guerrilla has more to come on that. You can expect to see more legacy PlayStation games receive similar, quality treatment on the PC."
I'm kind of at the point where unless Sony first party completely changes their focus in a direction that I'm interested in (RPGs, etc), I'm probably out. I'm not gonna buy an XSX because I do not have any interest in the Xbox platform, so I'll either wait for a huge sale on the PS5 or just bail on the generation entirely.
I've really seen absolutely zero reason to believe that going PS5 only will be a good bet for next gen and I don't get paid enough to build a gaming PC to go along with it.
so no dev is going to make use of the SSD aside from Sony? Where in Gods name did you get that from?
I get that logic, but we don't really know shit to be blunt.
I said meaningful use. Obviously it will have some tacit effects on games just by nature of the hardware, but it won't be a meaningful, game-changing difference.
If Sony had shown something like Hellblade 2, people would have been much calmer. It was a bad idea to "start" the whole PS5 life with a presentation that didn't even have a tech demo.
I ain't gonna lie I at least expected like a 10 second clip to show off the loading thing again or something.
Yep, people are going to riot until June. At least all the big hitters are releasing starting this friday so people won't be too thirsty for news.
Just one question, if I may?
Have you been lucky enough to have a glimpse at the physical system itself...
But the game world isn't bigger or more dynamic. It's the exact same game, just prettier.
That's what you're going to get on PS5, - the exact same game, but it will load marginally faster. And it won't be prettier.
it's fine to be disappointed. How people in this thread have come to the conclusion that devs won't use the SSD is insane. Devs are happy with the hardware even Jason who ripped the entire showing is screaming how integral the SSDis which i assume he's heard expressed from devs.
Yet you have armchair devs in here saying the complete opposite.
disappointment is one thing. Outright pessimism and just saying anything is a completely different matter.
This presentation was a complete fuck-up from a marketing pov and Sony should feel embarrassed right now. God the lack of just some bare minimum of footage to show off said features is infuriating. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to show this to the public?
Not beyond some minor stuff no. What's the last time a developer had actual gameplay differences between 2 versions of the same game within the same gen because of different specs?
I'm sure that when we'll see the games and the console itself we might forget most of the current disappointment, but i really hope that the proper reveal event won't be just two or three months before the launch with nothing else in the middle, because that's what i fear right now.
Either way getting no BC for anything than big AAA online service games would still be an huge letdown for a lot of people here.
Either way getting no BC for anything than big AAA online service games would still be an huge letdown for a lot of people here.
I hope so. But certainly, there are so much better and many multiple ways to reveal the specs other than what we got. It technically wasn't a GDC presentation after all, since most of the audiences were consumers.
How are you coming these conclusions? They've haven't showed any software yet running on the hardware.
So rock bottom would be 499 with Sony trying to sell us Remastered versions of TLOU 2 and GoT as launch titles correct?
At least I don't think we are that point yet. So we have something to look forward to NOT happening.
Don't you dare bookmark this
At least I don't think we are that point yet. So we have something to look forward to NOT happening.
Don't you dare bookmark this
that we agree, sure. they could sold the presentation better, but yeah.
Years and years and years and years of precedent. Developers are not going to build completely distinct versions of multiplatform games to take advantage of specific hardware features. We know this. It's been the same every generation.
GTAVI isn't going to have a bigger map on one platform or the other. Things like that aren't going to happen.
More Flops would have been nice, but as always, games are what matter most.
And I'm fairly disappointed that they can't guarantee that all PS4's games are compatible.
And I'm fairly disappointed that they can't guarantee that all PS4's games are compatible.
Multiplats might be a bit better on the Series X and (obviously) high end PC, but it seems like most Playstation gamers care about exclusives. I'm sure Cerny talked to them, asked them what they thought was important, and that was the very fast SSD.
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What I'm confused about, is if Sony is entering the PC space. If people (including me) are theorizing Sony is making games that are "only possible on PS5" with its insanely fast SSD speeds, does that mean they aren't planning on porting games to PC in the future?
Then I gotta ask what's the point of porting Horizon to PC, maybe their trying to entice some of those gamers to get a PS5? Idk.
I originally thought they were using Horizon Zero Dawn as a test to see the PC market, sales, etc. And in the future possibly port PS5 games a year or two down the line to PC. But if you need a insanely fast SSD to run games on PC, that would limit the market/audience who would buy the game, so idk.
Maybe I'm looking at this wrong?
Yup
To some people here this is a feel good Sony Zone
Only positive stuff allowed and negative stuff/criticism is met with comments like "more people to put in my ignore list" and other comments
Sony really shit the bed today and now it will be another 4-5 months of silence until the next ps5 News and probably bad Pr
What if they show the games on State Of Plays? 🤣
Everyone already thinks they will have at least one big event before the release to show features and games.
Everyone already thinks they will have at least one big event before the release to show features and games.
Also was it just me or did Jim Ryan look really haggard at the start of that video? Like someone under a lot of stress and not getting much sleep?
So in the end, after all is said and done, if Sony don't impress you with PS5 properly at some point, it sounds like you'll what... quit gaming?
I doubt that somehow.
I'm pretty you'll be here when PS5 is released, having bought one and still finding things to complain about. (😉)
Obviously billboards and such won't be able to happen, but they can still do TV spots and ads online. I know some have brought up the idea of marketing a game about an outbreak while we're having one, but TLoU's story really isn't about that so much. It's not like Resident Evil where the entire story revolves around the virus.
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