Is anyone else kinda deeply shocked that Trump wasn't lying when he said a Vaccine was weeks away? I laughed and seriously thought that was his biggest lie of the debate...
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He wasn't thinking of this one. He always kept pushing for Johnson &Johnson vaccine, when even JJ said they were not ready due to last min side effects.
Yeah I agree. Hell it would even be in the best interest of even businesses to give money.
the sooner every country gets the vaccine, the quicker the world can return to some sense of normality.
I know that it's wishful thinking and my sense of optimism, but I would be so happy with a vaccine out by spring to let us have a normal summer. This atleast gives me hope. I cannot believe we might be in this state for another 7 months minimum but man can a boy dream
"Yes, everyone died of Covid, but for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders"
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Great news. Really hope it's ready and out before summer. Should be free and mass produced with the help of all governments as it literally is a life and death situation and every will benefit from it.
But Not gonna lie, I can't help but think of I am legend and it's cancer cure lol.
But Not gonna lie, I can't help but think of I am legend and it's cancer cure lol.
Some of these takes..
They managed to get a vaccine, in less than a year, to 90% efficiency, and people are coming in this thread saying they won't take it and that these companies are corrupt and doing it solely for the money. The fucking state of the arrogance, and inanity of some of these posts.
Also, fuck, if there's anything to spend money on it's a fucking vaccine. Y'all buying PS5 day one, but demand that a vaccine which could potentially save your life and let you outside might cost you money...
There's got to be some degree of bollocks with this
Doctors are prone to hyperbole, doesn't mean that should make it's way out here. I would assume none of these doctors are too close to actually giving out vaccines, or know intimately the development process and safety regulations of vaccines.
I'm a pediatrician, I'm excited about these results, and I'll be glad to get it as soon as the process allows. One of my co-workers is in the trial. She's pretty sure she got the placebo, and is hopeful they fold the placebo arm in to the treatment arm sooner rather than later.
Actually, even a third would be a huge boost to herd immunity. It creates a lot of dead ends which kills the exponential growth.
There are others in development that don't require that. They just aren't going to be ready as early as the first batches, they take more work
yup, it just shows distribution/logistics of the vaccine is just as important as making one
i am not looking forward to the 2 dose ones
but it is a good thing there are many kinds of vaccines being developed
Yea, I wanna say it's Merck that is working on a single dose temperature resilient vaccine. They skipped the rush to be first for trying to create a more worldwide applicable vaccine
Well if by weeks away you mean many weeks away.
Even this vaccine is not going to be deployed soon.
The excitement comes from new vaccines being readied in less than the previous four year record time table.
Trump simply lied about this to get support and halfway bungled into the possibility of it not being a complete fabrication of reality.
It's emblematic of his tenure, to barely pay attention to serious conversations and regurgitate bits and pieces that suit his reality.
While this is promising, people need to realize that it will take time to mass produce and ship the vaccine to every country that needs it.
We won't go back to "normal" until the covid vaccine is as readily available as the flu shot. Which hopefully will be by the end of next year.
We won't go back to "normal" until the covid vaccine is as readily available as the flu shot. Which hopefully will be by the end of next year.
Trump was trying to push that we'd all be getting vaccinated. Everyone knew there were going to be Phase 3 results at some point in the fall.
I get my booster shot tomorrow morning. I got a brief bout of chills and a massive headache a day after the first dose. We will how the booster shot treats me.
The folks administering my trial have said their number one question from participants is if they would be notified about getting the placebo or not should the vaccine work.
The folks administering my trial have said their number one question from participants is if they would be notified about getting the placebo or not should the vaccine work.
This is an extremely dumb question but do the vaccine side effects respond to the usual otc medicine / were you allowed to take any?
I've never had significant side effects from the flu shot so I don't know.
You can take meds as normal. They did request notification if side effects were very severe though. I purposely didn't look up possible side effects as I didn't want to make myself sick.
I still doubt that I got the real vaccine though. They asked screening questions for the computer to use to determine which vaccine group to place people into. I was upfront about how extremely cautious I've been since Texas went into lock down.
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Oh how convenient this comes after biden is announced the winner of the election. VERY convenient indeed...
I expect to hear for the next 6-12 months
I expect to hear for the next 6-12 months
I think we can safely say, that at least in the U.S., there will be a significant number of people who refuse to get vaccinated. I'm just hoping enough do it that we can achieve a level of herd immunity that will be enough for the virus to eventually burn itself out. Day 1 for me.
I mean, anyone who has been paying attention to this knew that we've been expecting vaccine trial information and (hopefully) approval for use by mid-late Nov, early Dec. While he was technically not lying, it was still misleading in that it makes people think that's the timeline for the general population to have access to it, which is false. Elderly and First-Responders come first.
I mean the vast majority of the country. Azar is saying March/April but that's what they have on paper.
No? Many vaccine candidate are in stage three trials, which many on track for completing the trials by the end of 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#Vaccine_candidates
In time for distribution before the election was always a fantasy.
It's going to be a real challenge in developed countries too. Many areas don't have access to that kind of cold storage, especially in the amount that will be needed for widespread vaccination efforts.
This type of vaccine, safety within the margin of efficacy. So once you have it, you should be safe.
Are there any potential issues with multiple vaccines in the general population? Let's say that a third of the population takes the Pfizer vaccine, and then another third takes the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and then the other third takes another one. Do we have to take any other precautions due to the differences in vaccine and failure rates?
Like others above said, Trump was going off public time-tables and adding a dash of bullshit. The Pfizer trial was a blind study; the CEO of Pfizer didn't even know the results until last Sunday afternoon.
But it's not. Even if it's approved within weeks, production and distribution will eat up a significant amount of time. This vaccine in particular has to be stored in ultra-cold temperatures creating a huge logistical hurdle in the cold chain. As Fauci said and has always said, it won't be available to Americans until next spring.
That was a few weeks ago , and the best case scenario timeline is the end of December for this vaccine- and even then only in enough numbers for frontline healthcare providers and high risk in the December-February window. I'm not sure how much credit he gets here, that timeline fits pretty solidly with the one Fauci and other experts have been optimistic about for months, but not very well with what Trump was selling during the debate.
Two doses, weeks apart and then probably another few weeks before the vaccine reaches full effectiveness. I'd say, assuming this optimistic timeline of doses being readily available to the public by ~April is accurate, that by the time a slim majority of Americans have been vaccinated and are up to full protection, we're easily into late summer/early fall. Don't know what that means for theaters, but it means that we're still living with the virus as a disruptive force to our daily existence for most of next year at a minimum.
It's time for billionaires to fucking step up.
Anyways, this is great news. I just read that Fauci says he will take it if it gets FDA approved, and that's good enough for me.
I dunno, I think a lot of people are gonna get FOMO. If this starts going full bore in the summer and you have places that start throwing huge events where you need to show you've been vaccinated to attend and everyone who got the vaccine is just having a Fucking blast, people who might have been on the fence or dubious to the vaccine might just say fuck it and do it to be able to enjoy "regular" life again.
Businesses making you prove you got the vaccine is 100% going to be a thing (think Broadway, indoor concerts, NBA games etc.)
Don't be it's just for Pfizer's candidate. With Pfizer reporting results that are this incredible it's very unlikely that other Vaccine candidates (especially Moderna which is also an mRNA candidate) don't also have similar amount of effectiveness and can be manufactured to help give us a higher stock and more focused distribution.
Regardless of how people try to poke at Pfizer's imperfections the overall premise of the vaccine working and working this well is proving that these vaccines can and will end this pandemic and should be ending it by the end of 2021 at worst
I can see that honestly. Between this, Biden, and the Lilly treatment being approved as well, things are a lot more positive around that time next year. Still would wear a mask until they say it generally safe to not wear one, but I at least no longer fearing if I had my mask off to eat something.