This has all the components of a creepy cult. Its leader supports his subordinates doing shitty stuff in his name.
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PewDiePie hackers take over smart tvs
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See, I agree with that statement. PDP is just being himself and only occasionally cares about things he influences (for example he called out his fans recently who became racist against Indian people because of his "war" with T-Series), because he does not see it as his responsibility which I can partly agree with on a principle level. He certainly does have influence if he realizes or not, and he should be more aware of things and act upon them.
However just attributing anything his fanbase does, or even just a few people do, to him is extremely irrational. People here imply ill intent everywhere, but in reality he is at most a childish guy who doesn't take anything seriously. You can fault him for that, of course, but that should be the most of it.
In general I agree, however the dude is a grown man, and this is not the first time. Plus the racism I really can't excuse.
You talk like google would ban him if he started doing that
#NotAllNazis
And this thread reminded me to sub to T-series, so there's that.
You do know the full phrase is "a few bad apples spoil the bunch", right, guy with barely 100 posts?
User banned (permanent): dismissing racism
First off, thanks for being reasonable. I do believe you are free to see him as a racist or someone with subconscious racist bias or something. I also agree that he should learn becoming more aware of what he is doing. However, I'll try and offer some explanation to this phenomenon:
I do not believe he is a racist; I think he has taken this sort of overreaction some people (!) here and in the media provide and basically "absorbed" it into his YouTube persona. Edgy jokes are his motto. I mean, that he very, very often, jokingly says "It's just a joke, it's just a joke" after making... a joke or a racist comment depending on whom you ask, it already shows you how he personally perceives the people going after him. It'a an "us vs. them" mentality that spirals down the more people make unreasonable claims and dismiss other people easily. Who started this? Hard to say and it's not really relevant either.
It's the same with politics in general really.
In a relationship, when one behaves badly over a period of time, you generally cut them out of your life. You can avoid them.
But what do you think happens when you can't avoid them? What if the other party misrepresents a point you made (due to ill intent or misunderstanding)? You become angry. The one feeling wronged will act upon this anger in some way. In politics, you can't just go your own way, that's not how democracy works, so one party will develop a stronger dislike of the other party. This leads to acts that the other party sees as offensive too. They fight back. The circle continues.
That's also why there are more and more people choosing to vote for the AfD here in Germany, which is kind of anti-establishment just like Trump is, and they are doing openly fiendish acts. They are also against the refugee politics Germany has been pursuing. Now, you can think of the AfD party however you want; but if you, as an individual, criticize the refugee politics of Germany (even if it's a grey matter to you; you don't think "all refugees should drown" or "let's let them all in while our social system has many people suffering too"), people will group you with the AfD.
So people who are being discriminated against or grouped with others just because of a single perspective you have will fight back. They will actually sympathize MORE with the group they were being grouped with BECAUSE they first-hand experience the discrimination they receive, and they WILL be against whatever the discriminating party stands for (here, the "establishment").
I think that's a good part of the reason Trump won, I think that's the reason the AfD is getting popular in Germany. It's a rebel mentality. Society establishes what is okay to think and what is not, and people are not okay with that because they don't feel like they are taken seriously. They fight back. The ones being fought back against (the accepted societal norms and views) don't realize that they views are offensive for other people, so they defend themselves, which just makes things worse. This radicalizes more and more people, on both sides.
It's quite apparent in this forum too. You can personally judge PDP or interpret him all you want however you want, but if you take things out of context and attribute wrong-doings of people to him, he WILL feel personally attacked because that's exactly what people here are doing. So he fights back by assuming a defensive stance. In his perspective, well deserved criticism and undeserved criticism or hate will become meaningless, if it comes from the same people. He feeds his content with that defensive stance. People find it funny. Then he makes even more fun of people, which of course, people WILL find offensive too. In all their minds, they did nothing wrong. Neither people here on this forum, as in "I'm just calling a racist out, where is the harm?", nor PewDiePie "I just make edgy jokes and some have gone too far, I agree, and now teachers are saying I stand for GENOCIDE?" think they did something that was inherently wrong or worth judging an entire person for. In the end, both parties reduce the other party to their own view of the other respective parties, without trying to understand where people are coming from and that foundations of world views are DIFFERENT from person to person.
That's where the spiral of hate comes from. Now, don't just dismiss what I say just because I said PDP doesn't see himself as a racist or that what he is doing is wrong. You are not doing yourself a favor if you are going to dismiss this in favor of your preconceived notion.
You can see this pattern everywhere in the world. From relationships to friendships to politics; everywhere where communication of at least two people is involved, this pattern becomes apparent.
Look, I don't know how old you are, but at a certain point in your life if you're above a certain level of intelligence you realize that sometimes you just have to take the criticism to heart and realize you're wrong (you meaning PDP, not you personally). I get where you are coming from but he is a public figure now. You have to watch your words more when you get to his level of fame. Thats why lots of stars have publicists. I don't think the dude is dumb, so there's really no excuse. He had to start examining what he was doing after the whole sign debacle, but then we had the linking to far right extremist thing. He's all out of goodwill for a lot of people, and for me personally that was already a bridge too far. He can't claim ignorance anymore.
I see your point and I do agree. But I also believe that your point is idealistic. A lot of people who would be deemed "mature" behave in this way. Be it celebrities, politicians or talk show hosts. You just have to look at the hostile environment both far left and far right communities preserve, and both sides have huge influence and a big number of people associated with it, who will deem everyone going against them as "intolerant and not worth the time". Just look at how little introspection quite a few people here perform and tell me that this is how adults communicate. You don't seem to rush to insults just because it fits your agenda. And you are open to talk. Most people I've seen here are not.
Yea, and a Google device at that. This is the same company that likes to drag Microsoft's name through the mud by publishing 90-day-old exploits that its found in their software. Also the same company that likes to boast abut how secure its browser is, and its ChromeOS operating system.
But they couldn't be arsed to patch a year-old vulnerability in their Chromecast devices until their hand was finally forced.
They've built the Cast protocol into just about every device they've made recently. That shit had better be bulletproof from now on.
Don't know about terrorism, but there are probably a number of jurisdictions that would consider this cyber-criminality.
I really hate this garbage person, his defense force, and his cult. It's not funny, never was. I hope these cultists are simply impressionable children, and not adults still thinking "doing it for the lawlz" is funny.
What fucking assholes.
(And PewDiePie is shit. But these guys are assholes no matter what you tuber they stupidly idolize.)
(And PewDiePie is shit. But these guys are assholes no matter what you tuber they stupidly idolize.)
this thing is like 80% your shit isn't secure, 20% pdpso this is the hack?
Are we just mad because pewdiepie is involved?
unfortunately the lede is getting burried
Can someone explain to me how this happens? Sounds sort of odd for someone to adjust their router settings to allow this without knowing what could happen and I feel like this wouldn't be something set by default from the factory.
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According to the article it's taking over people's device and playing pdp YouTube videos which I imagine is artificially increasing his views. It's not just a suggestion to like him.
I'd put this at 50/50 or maybe even tip it towards the pdp agenda and they are just concern trolling for your device's security to make it seem like they had the best intentions in mind.
It may have started as a meme but a lot of his fanbase doesn't take it this way. The whole subscribe to pdp thing is so fucking annoying to see everywhere. It's no wonder he's receiving more backlash. Shit is getting out of hand.
This type of hacking isn't new. The only thing new about it is the PewDiePie aspect.
The idea is that the only way to get people/companies to care that their stuff is vulnerable, is to actually hack it.
What's the data on this? I honestly find it hard to believe one user, despite his number of subscribers, is the only thing keeping a website as massive as YouTube open.
Surely this will make the victims feel compelled to subscribe to his channel. Flawless logic on display here.
He's not even the top earner anymore. Number 1 is a boy who does toy unboxing and reviews.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-10-highest-paid-youtube-stars-of-2018-forbes/
Youtube will be fine without him.
What sucks is how many people don't know anything about their home network and depend on upnp for it to "just work"
This is like taking advantage of someone grandmother, and anyone who finds this funny should reevaluate their lives.
This is like taking advantage of someone grandmother, and anyone who finds this funny should reevaluate their lives.
A year? The deauth "attack" has been known (and public) since 2014.
https://www.bishopfox.com/blog/2014/07/rickmote-controller-hacking-one-chromecast-time/
Casthack is just on a wider scale.
This one is on Google.
Doesn't this guy live in Brighton here in the UK? If so, I've just tweeted to Brighton & Hove Police that he is encouraging cyber crime :)