Can you post a link to "ERA's" post making that statement?idky people are acting salty about this. I thought ERA already concluded that "it's just business," and "that's just how business is."
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So my Rpg heart having fable, elder scrolls, fallout, wasteland, avowed, and star field is absolutely nuts.
this too. but the timing is hilariously bad in retrospect. I hope he doesnt get messed up because of it.
So do you believe that Insomniac's game should've been multiplat, considering Spidey used to be multiplat?
You're not getting it man. ES6 and Starfield are not coming to PS5 unless Sony allows for gamepass downloads.
Looking at this list, it says to me that even though $7.5 billion is a lot of money, compared to the above figures it seems like a great deal for Microsoft given the amount of studios and huge franchises they got. That's a very simplistic view, I know, as it doesn't take into account other product sectors the companies above may be making money in.
This reply doesn't surprise me, especially off the heals of the whole insider debacle about the whole Bungie thing. It doesn't matter of it's coming from the horse's mouth anymore if it doesn't fit your narrative.
Yes it is. It is in every other industry in the world. You don't think Apple and Google are competitors in the phone space? You don't think Nike and Adidas are competitors in the sneaker space? You don't think Netflix and Amazon are competition in the video streaming space? Why would it not be a competition with let's just say 5 major platform holders (though if you count EGS, GOG, Steam, etc...it's more), dozens of publishers and thousands of independent developers competing in the same space? Unless it's a monopoly it's a competition. If Microsoft just bought Nintendo, Sony, Apple, Google, Activision, EA, Take Two, Ubisoft and all the large Japanese publishers in one go...I'd agree with you. That's turning into a monopoly at that point, but we're pretty damn far from that becoming a reality.
Netflix is a $210B company with 190M subscribers on average paying less than what Game Pass subs cost.
Let's say in total Msft game studios are worth $20B. They are already at 15M subscribers and let's say they reach 30M in 2 years. That's already a better ratio than Netflix.
Different company though, plus Sony hold the rights to Spiderman, very different to buying Zenimax but you do you.
It will have a massive subscription numbers, but Gamers are more hyped for day one releases than other media, a large number of people would pay a premium for the mega titles such as Elder Scrolls or Fallout
I mean, I definitely wouldn't be this confident about that as to use all caps like that.
sony has the movie rights, not game rights, ultamitly they convinced marval to let them do a excusive.
Microsoft can't expand their first party output indefinitely. There will come a tipping point (we may already be there), beyond which, it is not financially viable to support all of their studios, while giving all their games away for "free" as part of Gamepass.
Halo was a Mac exclusive that Microsoft bought to put on the Xbox.
TVs is easy to explain,they cost more than LG and Samsung TVs for a similar product, no point in buying a Sony TV. Their phones are also really badly marketed.
It was in development for PC and Mac, but it became an Xbox exclusive mid-way through development. Bungie was also a much smaller company than Bethesda.
They absolutely are not coming to PS5, lol. I wish they were because I think exclusivity is bad in general, but this deal happened so MS can have a super strong western lineup for Game Pass.
I hug my jtag :p
Are you sure that Sony own the game rights?
Either way, do you believe it should've been multiplat or not?
We are on page 145, and I think by this thread's ending, we'll make it to the end folks. Just sit tight.
Funny, I'm in the acceptance "moving on" phase. When I said that I'm done with gaming, I was told I'm being too emotional. What can I say, when half the games I like are no longer on my preferred system, it sucks the fun right out of gaming.
They are. Bethesda will ultimately decide what platforms these games end up on.
Dude you have no idea what you're talking about. Sony Pictures posted a record breaking profit last quarter despite COVID. Sony Music is the biggest music publisher in the industry, they're doing the opposite of struggling. Sony has a whole has been doing gangbusters these last few years. Where are you even getting any of this from?
I just don't think Microsoft would have paid $7.5 billion for ZeniMax just to release the titles for $60 on the PS5.
The games won't be exclusive to Xbox consoles, but they'll be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem, if that makes sense - PC, Series X, Series S, iPhone (eventually) + Android via xCloud and GamePass.
Wait wait wait wait....We are on page 145, and I think by this thread's ending, we'll make it to the end folks. Just sit tight.
We're in the Anger phase after 145 pages?
I honestly don't see any real "arms race", in the vein of third-party publishers getting bought up en masse, happening anytime soon. That's reading the situation wrong. Nintendo won't care about this move one bit. As for Sony, will they acquire studios like Bluepoint? Sure, but that would have been inevitable sooner or later.
Sony already has had, has and will have a multitude of timed exclusivity deals and there is assuredly more in the pipeline - just like they did since the PS4 released. This is not any different. So in terms of buying up third-party publishers, I don't see the impetus here for Sony. Second of all, who would they buy? I don't see the point of buying SE or Capcom when their games sell the most on the PS console ecosystem anyway. As for big western publishers, they are simply too expensive. Otherwise, their first-party publishing slate is completely fine.
In general, this move seems more like a one-off event with Microsoft desperately needing a definitve trump card in both the console business and their Gamepass product offering and Zenimax being the only big western publisher that is privately owned and apparently very inclined to be acquired.
Sony already has had, has and will have a multitude of timed exclusivity deals and there is assuredly more in the pipeline - just like they did since the PS4 released. This is not any different. So in terms of buying up third-party publishers, I don't see the impetus here for Sony. Second of all, who would they buy? I don't see the point of buying SE or Capcom when their games sell the most on the PS console ecosystem anyway. As for big western publishers, they are simply too expensive. Otherwise, their first-party publishing slate is completely fine.
In general, this move seems more like a one-off event with Microsoft desperately needing a definitve trump card in both the console business and their Gamepass product offering and Zenimax being the only big western publisher that is privately owned and apparently very inclined to be acquired.
Multiplat is stretching it. Most of their games have been on Playstation. The one game that came out on multiple consoles flopped. The one game that came out on only xbox flopped. Insomniac have their audience on Playstation. It was a natural acquisition for a studio.
Yep their desperation fueled this purchase. But I'm interested to see how it pays off for them. I think it will
We are on page 145, and I think by this thread's ending, we'll make it to the end folks. Just sit tight.
Nice console warring
Says who?
They are owned by Microsoft, so Microsoft ultimately decides. They can frame it however they like, but that's the truth.
If this means Elder Scrolls 6 will be time exclusive for Xbox...
haha
timed
I'm wondering if it's just Zenimax being inclined to be acquired, as Bethesda is already acquired by Zenimax.
I've been a "I'll play it eventually" gamer for years now, mostly for financial reasons.
Being able to have these games day 1 with Gamepass is almost overwhelming for me. I don't have to wait anymore. I can just play them.
But you can still play them on PC! It might not be the most viable option, but you still have an option.
There will be some Bethesda published exclusives. But the biggest IPs, Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstien, will still be multiplatform most likely. Any Xbox exclusive Bethesda game going forward will likely be from one of their smaller properties, or experimental new IP.