Italy has a very old population.Is my maths wrong or is that a fatality rate of 7.3%? Cause if it is fucking hell...
Do we have fatality numbers for France yet ?SK has 8K+ cases and a mortality rate of 0.9%.
HK SAR has 146 cases and a mortality rate of 2.6%.
Singapore has 226 cases and a mortality rate of 0%.
Germany, at this moment, has 5.6K cases and a mortality rate of 0.17%.
Are they conspiring with China and lying about their numbers together? That's exactly the ugly part of this disease: if the medical system will hold in an outbreak, most people can survive; when the hospitals run out of capacity, the mortality rate will surge. Wuhan is the prefect example for this.
Is my maths wrong or is that a fatality rate of 7.3%? Cause if it is fucking hell...
The Dutch government just announced that all bars/restaurants have to close their doors 6 pm today. That includes coffeeshops (of the Dutch variety, if you know what I mean), so naturally there are lines forming to get a quick stash for the next couple of weeks....
SK has 8K+ cases and a mortality rate of 0.9%.
HK SAR has 146 cases and a mortality rate of 2.6%.
Singapore has 226 cases and a mortality rate of 0%.
Germany, at this moment, has 5.6K cases and a mortality rate of 0.17%.
Are they conspiring with China and lying about their numbers together? That's exactly the ugly part of this disease: if the medical system will hold in an outbreak, most people can survive; when the hospitals run out of capacity, the mortality rate will surge. Wuhan is the prefect example for this.
Edit: Deleted due to being inaccurate.Is my maths wrong or is that a fatality rate of 7.3%? Cause if it is fucking hell...
It's election day. Those fuckers didn't report. I expect the worst.
Isn't that also wrong as you're assuming everyone who currently has it won't recover?Your math is wrong becuase you should be dividing the number of resolved cases with the number of deaths as opposed to the number of active cases by the number of deaths
Isn't that also wrong as you're assuming everyone who currently has it won't recover?
What is this?South Korea's mortality rate is 8.25%
China is 4.56%
Japan is 14.29%
Italy is 43.6%
Iran is 13%
Recovery takes longer than dying, so these numbers also are not accurate. We probably can say more if the first batch of infected is totally recovered.South Korea's mortality rate is 8.25%
China is 4.56%
Japan is 14.29%
Italy is 43.6%
Iran is 13%
It's not surprising, just disappointing how selfish some Americans are being.Truth is no numbers are true numbers. There are more mild cases out there that we don't know about (and may never know) and likely cases resulting in death that weren't tested.
It genuinely irks me seeing peers in my country (USA) not appropriately following strong recommendations by staying home, avoiding parties, etc. I'm in healthcare/work in a hospital.
you absolutely should not be doing that it will greatly inflate the mortality rate.Higher than that unfortunately...as someone pointed out, you should only divide the deaths by the closed cases, not total cases :/
Stop.South Korea's mortality rate is 8.25%
China is 4.56%
Japan is 14.29%
Italy is 43.6%
Iran is 13%
Their healthcare system has been overwhelmed for a while now and the continued increase in cases is exacerbating the issue. The lockdown won't have the intended effect for at least another week or two. This is why every other country needs to lockdown now. China and Italy are both examples of just how quickly this thing becomes unmanageable if drastic measures aren't taken as soon as possible.Why of all countries, Italy got hit super hard? It's so unlucky for them.
I'm not assuming anything. These numbers will continue to change as more and more people test positive. There is also the fact that many people are positive without having been tested, which also skew the numbers.Isn't that also wrong as you're assuming everyone who currently has it won't recover?
If I were Bill D I would have locked this city up a week ago, but it's not an easy choice, large ripples throughout. Expected him to pull the trigger today, still time. NYC is not being cooperative, last night I took a walk, about a mile around my area, took precautions, it was business as usual. People are just too stubborn.
I was feeling better after keeping myself in doors for a week, but yesterday my chest started to burn a bit and cough came back, no fever. Haven't interacted with anyone, even when I went out for my walk I did so with mask, no shortness of breath. Just weird, my stomach is burning too, wondering if it's stress related.
Hope everyone stays safe, and heads warnings.
Absolutely confirmed.Was asymptomatic transmission confirmed, or is it still "we're not sure and better safe than sorry"
That's incorrect. You cannot solely use the close case to calculate it either.Higher than that unfortunately...as someone pointed out, you should only divide the deaths by the closed cases, not total cases :/
Their healthcare system has been overwhelmed for a while now and the continued increase in cases is exacerbating the issue. The lockdown won't have the intended effect for at least another week or two. This is why every other country needs to lockdown now. China and Italy are both examples of just how quickly this thing becomes unmanageable if drastic measures aren't taken as soon as possible.
Recovery takes longer than dying, so these numbers also are not accurate. We probably can say more if the first batch of infected is totally recovered.
I'm not assuming anything. These numbers will continue to change as more and more people test positive. There is also the fact that many people are positive without having been tested, which also skew the numbers.
you absolutely should not be doing that it will greatly inflate the mortality rate.
if you do that you will be taking nearly 100% of the people who got sick enough to die from it because if you are that sick you will be tested but you will be ignoring nearly 100% of people who didn't show more than minor symptoms likely doubling or even more the mortality rate, getting no where near a more accurate number just a more scary number.
if we had a 100% test rate (aka everyone sick or healthy is getting tested very day) then sure that would be a valid way to do it, but we are no where near that.
That's incorrect. You cannot solely use the close case to calculate it either.
If you solely use closed case, then at one point there was more people dead than recover in Wuhan. However we all know that this disease did not have a >50% rate.
It is still rather early in the pandemic, however if you use the number from China who has a good portion of recovered case, you will notice that both calculation would start of very different, but eventually they will converge to the true number.
Graphs of Italy and Germany align prefectly so far.
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.infoGermany COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Germany Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
February 27 Italy 655 cases
March 06 Germany 670 cases
8 days later:
Italy 4636 cases
Germany 4599
Today (9 days later, but still counting)
Italy 5883 cases
Germany 5795 (still growing) https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/
Only benefit we have is that we will probably enter lockdown with lower numbers, so maybe that will halt the grow at least a bit in 1-2 weeks.
Oh sure I understand the numbers are in flux, guess we're never gonna know exactly how many people have itI'm not assuming anything. These numbers will continue to change as more and more people test positive. There is also the fact that many people are positive without having been tested, which also skew the numbers.