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spam musubi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,381
People defending Ng for this are missing the point that Ng said that Chen had "incorrect remarks about China" not "Chen is in a weird cult". While Chen might well not be someone worth associating with it seems like Ng did it for a shitty reason.

No one here is defending Ng? You need to realize that both sides of a situation can be bad. Ng sucks here, Chen sucks for being Falun Gong, CCP sucks for both oppressing Falun Gong and other atrocities, and Falun Gong sucks for propagating far propaganda and being homophobic. Opposing sides of a situation can all suck at the same time.
 

ItIsOkBro

Happy New Year!!
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
9,518
The hell is going on in here.
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Surakian

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
10,876
I watch Mikey's videos but...man...okay. Guess I'm not watching either of them anymore.
 

Dmax3901

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,903
A true milkshake duck, been a while since we've had one of those.

EDIT: Oh two for one special on milkshakes?
 

sfedai0

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,963
I have watched quite a few Chen videos (but not lately) and I never got the feeling he was a right-winger or a Trumper. He got into Falun Gong through his parents way before the Epoch Times and NTD (their OANN-like news channel) existed. The one time he talked about it, it was mostly the meditation stuff.

Chen shouldnt have ever talked about Falun Gong at all in his videos. He's inviting people to look in to a cult that could ensnare his more unsuspecting viewers.
 

ccbfan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,498
Mike chen hates china because he's falun gong not because of human rights.

If he gave a shit about human rights he wouldnt be in an alt right trumper supporting homophobic hate group cult.
 

leberkas

Banned
Nov 10, 2020
71
Here's one fun fact about the Falun Gong. They're super anti-CCP not because of human rights issues or anything like that, but because they're super against the idea of races mixing in any way, even ideologically. Communism was conceived by a bunch of white guys, so their concern with the CCP is the race mixing!
 

vhoanox

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,156
Vietnam
Here's one fun fact about the Falun Gong. They're super anti-CCP not because of human rights issues or anything like that, but because they're super against the idea of races mixing in any way, even ideologically. Communism was conceived by a bunch of white guys, so their concern with the CCP is the race mixing!

Well that explain why they are so racist.
All their members I know ( my former friends ) see gay people as lesser, 3rd grade members of society because we are not living yp to tradition value.
Trash, all of them.
 

darkhunger

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,270
USA
LMAO, fucking yikes. Why is it overseas anti-CCP people often turn out to be some cult nut job and right wing dumbass.
Gotta be fucked up crazy to get enough influence to counter a fucked up crazy regime... Heck, some of Trump's anti-China rhetoric last year probably originated in Epoch Times, and Trump has quoted them a bunch of times on his Twitter even.
 

Commedieu

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
15,025
I'm going to assume it's from the kowtowing to Weibo outrage. Westerners generally prefer to see a more hard line anti-CCP stance from their social media personalities.

I mean the CCP vanishes billionaires and has a massive digital army to harass/dox you in person/online trying to get loved ones in trouble/fired etc. If he has family anywhere near, or that can be reached... It wouldn't be worth putting your name in that list. Their reach is beyond alarming at this point.
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
I mean the CCP vanishes billionaires and has a massive digital army to harass/dox you in person/online trying to get loved ones in trouble/fired etc. If he has family anywhere near, or that can be reached... It wouldn't be worth putting your name in that list. Their reach is beyond alarming at this point.
Yes, I agree, which is why I don't like seeing Westerners demand ideological purity from dudes on YouTube.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,942
Yes, I agree, which is why I don't like seeing Westerners demand ideological purity from dudes on YouTube.
I don't really get that either or just reeks of people that have no stake in something judging others. It's easy for me to say whatever because I have no ties to anything. I don't hold it against people that don't want to be vanished
 

kmfdmpig

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
19,377
Yes, I agree, which is why I don't like seeing Westerners demand ideological purity from dudes on YouTube.
There's a huge gap between bending over to be an apologist for an evil regime and provoking the CCP. Ng went full on apologist, IMO. I think it's fair game to call out people who prop up and support the CCP as Ng, Blizzard, the NBA, and the Mulan actress have done in recent months. With that said, I agree that it's easy to expect people to take a brave stand when in reality doing so is quite dangerous to them or their families.
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
Member
Oct 25, 2017
92,963
here
lol, i was looking up info about the epoch times and Mike Chen, and Snopes used one of Mike Chen's videos as part of evidence tying together The Epoch Times and TheBL (another massive pro-trump media network, huge on Facebook)

www.snopes.com

EXCLUSIVE: Expanding Pro-Trump Outlet 'The BL' Is Closely Linked to The Epoch Times

Both The Epoch Times and The BL deny any connection whatsoever. Our report makes that a challenging argument to defend.

so falun gong is behind both the epoch and TheBL, which were/are major driving messengers charging the pro trump rhetoric and Qanon conspiracies

how the hell did they get this much influence?
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
Ng went full on apologist, IMO. I think it's fair game to call out people who prop up and support the CCP as Ng, Blizzard, the NBA, and the Mulan actress have done in recent months.
I think it's fair, I just would like people to keep in mind the risk profile is very different depending on if you're an expat, a Chinese film star, a Chinese businessman, or a US corporation.

Blizzard largely said the HK stuff to protect their business. An individual comedian like Ng, well, it's a different story, without going too deep into checking out his actual family connections.

I'm glad people are learning about the Falun-Trump connection here though, I always felt it was underreported.
 
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Chikor

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
14,239
lol, i was looking up info about the epoch times and Mike Chen, and Snopes used one of Mike Chen's videos as part of evidence tying together The Epoch Times and TheBL (another massive pro-trump media network, huge on Facebook)

www.snopes.com

EXCLUSIVE: Expanding Pro-Trump Outlet 'The BL' Is Closely Linked to The Epoch Times

Both The Epoch Times and The BL deny any connection whatsoever. Our report makes that a challenging argument to defend.

so falun gong is behind both the epoch and TheBL, which were/are major driving messengers charging the pro trump rhetoric and Qanon conspiracies

how the hell did they get this much influence?
They are working with Steve Bannon and they seem to have some money behind them.
Also, social media just give amazingly effective tools that allow you to reach the people most susceptible/vulnerable to your message.
 

SilentPanda

Member
Nov 6, 2017
13,750
Earth
lol, i was looking up info about the epoch times and Mike Chen, and Snopes used one of Mike Chen's videos as part of evidence tying together The Epoch Times and TheBL (another massive pro-trump media network, huge on Facebook)

www.snopes.com

EXCLUSIVE: Expanding Pro-Trump Outlet 'The BL' Is Closely Linked to The Epoch Times

Both The Epoch Times and The BL deny any connection whatsoever. Our report makes that a challenging argument to defend.

so falun gong is behind both the epoch and TheBL, which were/are major driving messengers charging the pro trump rhetoric and Qanon conspiracies

how the hell did they get this much influence?

US govt money?

The State Department has decided to fund a group run mainly by practitioners of Falun Gong, a Buddhist-like sect long considered Enemy No. 1 by the Chinese government, to provide software to skirt Internet censorship across the globe.

State Department officials recently called the group, the Global Internet Freedom Consortium, offering it $1.5 million, according to Shiyu Zhou, one of the group's founders. A State Department official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed the offer.
The decision, which came as the United States and China have recently moved to improve ties after months of tension, appears likely to irritate Beijing just as the two are set to resume a dialogue on human rights Wednesday for the first time in two years.

 

Lishi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,284
lol, i was looking up info about the epoch times and Mike Chen, and Snopes used one of Mike Chen's videos as part of evidence tying together The Epoch Times and TheBL (another massive pro-trump media network, huge on Facebook)

www.snopes.com

EXCLUSIVE: Expanding Pro-Trump Outlet 'The BL' Is Closely Linked to The Epoch Times

Both The Epoch Times and The BL deny any connection whatsoever. Our report makes that a challenging argument to defend.

so falun gong is behind both the epoch and TheBL, which were/are major driving messengers charging the pro trump rhetoric and Qanon conspiracies

how the hell did they get this much influence?

They are a religious cult. Think like scientology brainwashed people can be quite stupid and if you manage to brainwash someone with power quite dangerous.

Having said that I like Chen videos, but i avoid it's vlog channels, for now he kept that stuff out of it's main channel.

For the video in question, it was quite meh.
Clearly the dumpling guy was not very good at making them but i felt no one involved put much effort in it.
 

Cow Mengde

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,725
They are working with Steve Bannon and they seem to have some money behind them.
Also, social media just give amazingly effective tools that allow you to reach the people most susceptible/vulnerable to your message.

Yup, some of their BS is reaching my family. Luckily, my parents at least sorta learned their lesson and often consults me when something sounds fishy online.
 

pezzie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,441
I'm gonna be honest, I can say shit because I'm a nobody anonymous on some internet forums, but if I had a real public face, I wouldn't hesitate to do what Nigel just did. It might seem like bootlicking to you guys and maybe it is, but my Dad still lives in Shanghai and the fact that the CCP wouldn't take two seconds to punish him if I was public in my hatred of the CCP means that if my choice was having internet strangers think that I'm a coward, or my family getting fucked, well it's not a hard choice really.

But since I don't have a public platform, fuck the CCP.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,438
you know one good thing about covid is that i haven't heard or seen "5000 years of civilization reborn" in a while
 

disparate

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,904
FWIW Chen's support for Trump isn't dissimilar to other folks I've seen where living under brutal socialist or communist states, their brutality can push you to bad places politically. Trump is comparatively sane to Chavez or Jinping.
 

Ceerious

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,223
Asian
I'm glad that people finally see through Falun Gong and it's awfulness. Merely years ago (before Trump's presidential term) it seemed like most people in American believed Falun Gong to be "harmless religious group" or something like that. I guessed that them finally out them self because their hard-core support of Trump.
 

Heliex

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,113
Yup, some of their BS is reaching my family. Luckily, my parents at least sorta learned their lesson and often consults me when something sounds fishy online.
This is my mom. Shes latina and has been getting sent Covid videos over whatsapp from notable latino Q members. I went off on her for sharing that video in our family group chat, now she always sends it to me first to find out if its real or fake.
 

Catshade

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,198
I still don't understand how Falun Gong, an organization so hateful towards a fascist government (because that's what Xi Jinping's CCP is, nothing communist/socialist about them), is ready to prop a fascist government themselves in their support for Trump.
 

RisingStar

Banned
Oct 8, 2019
4,849
This hurts a little because I did like the Uncle Roger character going in on that moron Jamie Oliver, however that joke went on for far too long. It also pissed me off how he kept doing videos outdoors with no mask on during a damn pandemic.

If he has family in China, I can understand and I also can believe that he may not have the finances to bring everyone into the UK or send them to Malaysia. However, having clout alone screws with a lot of minds when you openly support bullshit CCP rhetoric. Just stay quiet about it in that case.

Chen on the other being equally terrible sucks as well. I just got exposed to his stuff so yeah, swift nothxbud. Time to unsubscribe from them unfortunately.
 

darz1

Member
Dec 18, 2017
7,095
not everyone who supports CCP really supports CCP. Surely you guys understand that right.
 

SABO.

Member
Nov 6, 2017
5,872
I can't imagine what it would be like to be a Chinese person of note and have the CCP monitoring you & influencing your actions.

China as a superpower is incredibly scary.

not everyone who supports CCP really supports CCP. Surely you guys understand that right.

The majority of members on this forum don't live in countries where a Government would actually make you "dissapear" for your political views or opinions.

So I don't think there really is any possibility of members here understanding that.