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strife85

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Oct 30, 2017
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Hows my system looking against xsx? i got
9700k @ 5ghz
32gb ddr4 3600 ram
1.5tb of ssd space
rtx 2080 slight OC


Will I need to upgrade my GC to stay a bit ahead?
 

modiz

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Oct 8, 2018
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BreakAtmo

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Nov 12, 2017
12,964
Australia
I totally agree with both of you but I still think KZ Battle royal will be a thing :)

Agreed. Killzone overall isn't super well-loved, but the multiplayer of Killzone 2 arguably was by a lot of people. I think a heavily expanded next-gen game focused on that experience would do very, very well - equally as well as a new Guerilla shooter IP that would likely take more time and effort to make.
 

Firmus_Anguis

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Oct 30, 2017
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gamerant.com

New PS5 Leak Claims Sony is Developing Two Different Console Versions

A leaker claims that Sony doesn't just have one PlayStation 5 console in development, but rather two, including a more powerful console.

I saw it today.
Is it true? Possible? Or not?
Ugh. He's not reliable at all. He said both consoles would be 1080 level (not Ti). He later claimed his predicition came true, after the Series X spec reveal (which is more powerful than a 2080...). He's been banned around here for a reason.
 

BreakAtmo

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Nov 12, 2017
12,964
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I have a feeling a 3060RTX will probably be just fine if someone wants to outperform the new consoles. The rest of his build looks great but it depends on his SSD type.

Ehhh, I don't know about that. Given the XSX power and (at least I'm assuming) the PS5 are a bit beyond the 2080 and around 2080 Super level, I have my doubts there. My guess for the Ampere line is that the 3060 will be roughly on-par with the next-gen GPUs, the 3070 will be solidly better (hopefully around 2080 Ti level), and the 3080 will be the real future-proofing option, probably about 50% stronger and capable of powering next-gen games at 60fps for the entire generation as long as you don't mind DLSS.
 

DrKeo

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Ehhh, I don't know about that. Given the XSX power and (at least I'm assuming) the PS5 are a bit beyond the 2080 and around 2080 Super level, I have my doubts there. My guess for the Ampere line is that the 3060 will be roughly on-par with the next-gen GPUs, the 3070 will be solidly better (hopefully around 2080 Ti level), and the 3080 will be the real future-proofing option, probably about 50% stronger and capable of powering next-gen games at 60fps for the entire generation as long as you don't mind DLSS.
Maybe, I guess we will have to wait and see but I'm sure the 3070RTX will be more powerful than any of the new consoles, it will probably be a few % more powerful than a 2080 ti.
 

BreakAtmo

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Nov 12, 2017
12,964
Australia
Maybe, I guess we will have to wait and see but I'm sure the 3070RTX will be more powerful than any of the new consoles, it will probably be a few % more powerful than a 2080 ti.

Oh, I agree. That's what I was saying - you said that the 3060 will be able to outperform the new consoles, but I think the 3070 will be needed for that. It'll probably be about on-par with the Titan RTX, while the 3060 will be "only" around 2080-to-2080 Super level.
 

RoninStrife

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Oct 27, 2017
4,002
We can all dream. Well I won't I have very little ps1/2 nostalgia. I was mainly into sega and PC back then.
I would be interested in checking out how well the Zen CPUs and a 5700 runs PS2/PS3 emulators on pc. What kind of framerate/resolutions are currently capable on a pc setup? Granted we can get better optimization in a console box. The results would be interesting..
 

Chris Metal

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Oct 25, 2017
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Those are 2 names I dont like seeing in the morning.

Massive grain of salt for that user.
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DrKeo

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Oh, I agree. That's what I was saying - you said that the 3060 will be able to outperform the new consoles, but I think the 3070 will be needed for that. It'll probably be about on-par with the Titan RTX, while the 3060 will be "only" around 2080-to-2080 Super level.
Yeah, you are probably right, the 3060 will probably match them. Man, we really need new next-gen info.
 

klik

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Apr 4, 2018
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Hows my system looking against xsx? i got
9700k @ 5ghz
32gb ddr4 3600 ram
1.5tb of ssd space
rtx 2080 slight OC


Will I need to upgrade my GC to stay a bit ahead?
That's one of the things i hate about PC gaming and i moved to console gaming. I used to have gtx 680 + i5 3570 which was top of the line cards and cpu.
On Battlefield 5 i can hardly even get 60fps on lowest settings and it looks like shit, on medium-hih mix im hovering around 30fps in multiplayer. Even though my pc is probably 2x better than console and on console i get amost stable 60fps and it looks pretty good.
 

Deleted member 5028

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I just got message from Sony that PSPlus becomes cheaper come May 1st. Is it regional or does it mean something, and that something is not good for next gen?
You can't infer that at all. In slowing markets they might trying to boost sales ahead of PS+ in order to lock you in and give you reason to upgrade. Don't panic
 
You can't infer that at all. In slowing markets they might trying to boost sales ahead of PS+ in order to lock you in and give you reason to upgrade. Don't panic

Ok, I won't thanks!

My guess is that it's the addition of PSNow to the package, and package becomes cheaper for those without it available. Since I don't see anyone around the world or Era to mention it, it may be even personal discount for being such a fanboy. Sorry for offtopic then.
 

JahIthBer

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Jan 27, 2018
10,400
Hows my system looking against xsx? i got
9700k @ 5ghz
32gb ddr4 3600 ram
1.5tb of ssd space
rtx 2080 slight OC


Will I need to upgrade my GC to stay a bit ahead?
If you play at 1080p/1440p like 99% of PC gamers, why would you worry about it? SX is going to be wasting so much power to push pixels. i do feel like RTX 2080 is going to be out dated quickly by Ampere though, i would not be surprised to see a RTX 3060 comfortably beat the RTX 2080. So just sell the RTX 2080 & get a 3070/3080 sometime this year.
 

taggen86

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Mar 3, 2018
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Hows my system looking against xsx? i got
9700k @ 5ghz
32gb ddr4 3600 ram
1.5tb of ssd space
rtx 2080 slight OC


Will I need to upgrade my GC to stay a bit ahead?


Your CPU is way stronger than the underclocked ryzen CPUs that are in the next gen. Your GPU on the other hand is probably just around xsx assuming that RDNA2 does not have a large IPC over 1. However when it comes to ray tracing I would expect that your GPU will outperform the next gen consoles given how much money Nvidia has spent on designing their RT cores vs AMD and I don't expect that the next gen will have as many of them as well. But this is just speculation. DLSS 2.0 on the other hand provides a clear advantage over next gen (assuming that more games implement it in the future). Overall I think your are fine with what you have and you will stay ahead until the pro versions. I have a 2080 ti and will only get the PS5 to get their exclusives and just get all MS games on pc, exactly as I did this gen.
 
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Adum

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May 30, 2019
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XSX can't touch this.
Are you sure about that? If the RDNA2 in the XSeX does have architectural improvements over first gen RDNA then it could perform much better than the 12tf number on paper - and that'd put it above a 2080. Of course a PC with an RTX2080 would still play nextgen games easily, but you won't be seeing any fps/resolution jumps compared to the console version.
 

JahIthBer

Member
Jan 27, 2018
10,400
Are you sure about that? If the RDNA2 in the XSeX does have architectural improvements over first gen RDNA then it could perform much better than the 12tf number on paper - and that'd put it above a 2080. Of course a PC with an RTX2080 would still play nextgen games easily, but you won't be seeing any fps/resolution jumps compared to the console version.
This is why it's a big pain we know nothing about RDNA2, but people saying it will somehow have 50% performance increase despite still being on 7nm, might need to calm down a bit, if AMD had such a magical architecture, they would be fighting the 2080 Ti right now.
The profit margins on Consoles are very thin, but you can get PC gamers to pay $999 for your 2080 Ti killer that costs $499 to make, yet radio silence.
 

CliveLH

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Jun 22, 2019
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Your CPU is way stronger than the underclocked ryzen CPUs that are in the next gen. Your GPU on the other hand is probably just around xsx assuming that RDNA2 does not have a large IPC over 1. However when it comes to ray tracing I would expect that your GPU will outperform the next gen consoles given how much money Nvidia has spent on designing their RT cores vs AMD and I don't expect that the next gen will have as many of them as well. But this is just speculation. DLSS 2.0 on the other hand provides a clear advantage over next gen (assuming that more games implement it in the future). Overall I think your are fine with what you have and you will stay ahead until the pro versions. I have a 2080 ti and will only get the PS5 to get their exclusives and just get all MS games on pc, exactly as I did this gen.

Sorry but an Intel Core i7 9700k is not way stronger than the rumored AMD 3700X inside the XSX (8 AMD Zen 2 cores at 3.6 GHz). In fact it's weaker in multithreaded tasks.
 

orava

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Jun 10, 2019
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Are you sure about that? If the RDNA2 in the XSeX does have architectural improvements over first gen RDNA then it could perform much better than the 12tf number on paper - and that'd put it above a 2080. Of course a PC with an RTX2080 would still play nextgen games easily, but you won't be seeing any fps/resolution jumps compared to the console version.

Because we actually have very little on how they came up on that 12tf, the actual performance could also be below of what it indicates. Right now it does give some approximation of the performance but in reality, it's just marketing talk. Is it pure raster power or is ray tracing included in it? Does it account image reconstruction tech and ml? What kind of configuration it has etc.
 

taggen86

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Mar 3, 2018
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Sorry but an Intel Core i7 9700k is not way stronger than the rumored AMD 3700X inside the XSX (8 AMD Zen 2 cores at 3.6 GHz). In fact it's weaker in multithreaded tasks.

This is incorrect. If you check the hardware unboxed (or the DF) review of the 3700x, you can see that the 9700k outperform it in gaming. And that is before taking account of the overclock of his 9700k and the underclock of the 3700 x in next gen. the 3700x is only more powerful in productivity tasks. But not even that would be true here given the vast difference in clocks.
 
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Xeontech

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's Friday! I'm drinking! Let's have some sacrifices! Who else is as excited as I am?

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Well, don't everyone speak up at once.....

Hnetuduft, Miruna, Nazgûl, Turbowaffles, Xeontech. Please step forward. For the crime of failing to guess the correct reveal date for the PlayStation 5, I hereby sentence you to the following avatarsto wear shamefully until the PS5 releases:

Hnetuduft, when you gotta go, you gotta go. This should help. Sorry, it was the only color they had left in stock.

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Miruna, scare children and loved ones with this creepy old man mask!

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Nazgûl, call the fire department! The cat got stuck in a jar!

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Turbowaffles, send that smile away for a while with this totally un-nutritious breakfast!

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Xeontech, remember Kidz Bop? Did you know there's a lot of them?

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Well, that's all for today folks. Come back tomorrow for even more silliness because it's a weekend and whatnot. Until then, let's get some dinner.

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Dammit Sony
 

orava

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Banned
Jun 10, 2019
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Sorry but an Intel Core i7 9700k is not way stronger than the rumored AMD 3700X inside the XSX (8 AMD Zen 2 cores at 3.6 GHz). In fact it's weaker in multithreaded tasks.

We only know that it's a 8 core zen2 part. The architechture is very versatile and can be stretched from mobile to hedt and servers. This being an apu in a very limited form factor, It is very likely that the cpu is not going match the full desktop 3700X.
 

Sprat

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Oct 27, 2017
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England
I would be interested in checking out how well the Zen CPUs and a 5700 runs PS2/PS3 emulators on pc. What kind of framerate/resolutions are currently capable on a pc setup? Granted we can get better optimization in a console box. The results would be interesting..
I reckon the sky would be the limit. Ps2 emulation has been in a pretty good spot for a good while.

Last I checked its mostly cpu dependent but I managed to get good results with a celeron years ago.
 
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