I would hazard a guess and say one being released in 2016 and the other in 2019 has something to do with it.
And DG can't really touch a little something else NG are working on.
First image isnt from gameplay.
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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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First image isnt from gameplay.
Yeah, yeah, i meant I wouldn't exclude HBM2 in that scenario.
Errr... the numbering just makes it look like a PS5 thou.. I'm curious. about those clocks.. it's kinda like that pastebine that got posted here
It doesn't matter they both use the same game models just the lighting may have some problems during day time when it comes to SSS. I explaiend that. We will see how TLOU2 will behave during day scenes.
Definitely not as fact, but the research it's based on is a guy who combs benchmark databases and successfully picked up the PS4 pro chip and subor z chips months before launch.
So a pretty good track record.
I'd say it's pretty likely this chip will end up in either PS5 or Xbox one.
I guess it's also possibly a custom apple chip.
the paste bin person just saw that it was originally 1 Ghz then boosted to 1.8Ghz and used the same logic on xbox.
i really dont see why we should read into paste bin leaks that are probably made by people looking at this thread, seeing the discussion and faking details accordingly the satisfy the current speculation.
Looking further into i am seeing what suppose to be a update on it .
I can't remember if we discuss that .
I'm emphasising the clocks on the DF article and the credible Gonzalo leaks btw, not the paste bin per say.
It's curious that Gonzalo has some really good clocking going from 1.1 to 1.8
Yeah we did a few pages. back, this is where Richard got his info from to make the video
This guy is quite legit I talk to him a lot regarding Intel iGPUS (more recently ice Lake Intel iris Plus)
That was the Vega rumor which is dead dead dead.
"ZD..."
D is for Desktop. It would have 'G' otherwise.
Does it exist? Yes, will they ship it? Working on seeing what the latest is.
Infinite, if not a pre-rendered video, was running on a PC.
So i guess the updated was for a different part compare to the first one he found .
that is not gonzalo. that is a desktop APU, unlike the previous gaming APU.
the latest gonzalo sample is actually:
ZG16702AE8JB2_32/10/18_13F8
Hmm. I didn't see this before but it coincides with the specs of Ryzen 3700X with 8 cores. So it makes sense.
Edit: desktop maybe.
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This would be very interesting... Could you figure out what comments did 3rd party devs said regarding Lockhart?
I wanna know more about this story and how it ended up with MS cancel it if it did so.
That's great!I'm getting at least 384mm2.
I'm having trouble believing that the PS5 will be smaller, not because of concerns of power but with that rumor that they're adding in the PSVR breaker box.
Yeah saw that doing some more research.
He said the base clock is 1.6 .
assuming MS decides to not ship lockhart, do you think they will change their current anaconda targets in a significant way? i assume that with the 2 skus MS planned on going with no/minimal loss on anaconda, but assuming that it is getting cancelled they must be reevaluating their plans? might be just lowering the target price of anaconda as another option.
1.6 - 3.2 is what I'm looking for at, it's around the realistic clocks you can get in such a small format
Which makes sense because that's BC mode. That's how the Pro does it too.
Cool, so Infinite was basically running on a Scarlet dev kit. Also, do you think Xbox start as the power leader next gen?
I don't put much stock is neither the 320mm² APU "leak" nor the 380mm²+ estimated from the video.
We were already heading that way several pages ago with bcatwilly trying to discredit him over a series of posts.
PS5 is gonna come with a Bluepoint remake of Ridge Racer Type-4 with RTRT. The trailer announcing it on stage will just be a next-gen version of its intro.
#believe
I don't doubt your math and geometry prowess, I doubt the wisdom of putting stock into what is essentially fluffy marketing material.
Xbox 1X console box is smaller than the Pro but the die size is larger.
The og XB1 die was larger than the PS4 despite being 33% less powerful.
Regardless, 380+mmsq for a console APU is fucking humongous. Given that we're also talking about 7nm wafer pricing, either MS is preparing to perpetually sink their console hardware profitability or Lockheart is real and Anaconda will be a $699+ box.
Or somebody dun boobed with their math.
I wonder how the cu's compare
If it 44 for scarlett and 36 for PS5
It would be 8.2tf for PS5 and 9tf for scarlett.
But given the rumors of power differential and the possibility of the size of the die, how do those two align? Do we really think MS is going to make a massive SOC, thats substantially less powerful than PS5, and $699? Given what happened this gen, is it realistic they would fail that bad in all aspects? I guess its possible but.....
The Scorpio video turned out to be completely accurate though.
It could be, it looks as big as the 1Xs 360mm2 and an extra 20mm2 is not a lot.
If the Gonzalo leak is true, PS5 will be around 9.2TF.
I think PS5 is 40~44CU @ 1.8GHz = 9.2TF~ 10.1TF
And Scarlett between 48~54CU @ 1.6GHz = 9.8TF~11.0TF
Even though that video was fairly accurate, MS has just too much of a history of being nebulous and misleading with their marketing for me to put any stock into it. If we get some corroboration, sure, let's take it much more seriously. Until then, I'm skeptical.
They ain't launching a $699 box.
I think they've scrapped the 2 skus.
If I had to call it right now I'd say:
MS $499 4-12 more CUs than PS5 decent overall edge
PS5 $399 and close enough to MS to not be a huge deal and it will outsell MS launch aligned roughly 2:1.
I'll foam at the mouth. I'm serious. One of my favorite games ever.
Then I'll preorder it for the Switch.
36, 44, 52, 60......
Those are the most likely candidates for the number of CUs the consoles can have. Just add 4CU to all of them and you get the real number of CUs from their vanilla chip. Before CU deactivation.
They purposely shot the video so as to obscure the total number of RAM chips. The package surfaces are also visible and actually indicated varying densities. This leads to the authenticity IMO.
One of the reasons I think 36 could happen is Richard from digital foundry saying that 36 may make it easier for BC with PS4 Pro.
8.2tf RDNA is still better then vega64 performance. Which is a real nice leap.
I highly doubt BC is so rigid. They can disable extra CUs and be done with it.
No way either console sees that level of increase in die area over the other.
That's a pipedream.
Well it was pretty rigid on the ps4 pro at first. Bet yes, equal chance.
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