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Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT5| - It's in RDNA
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We don't have the direct quotes from Jim Ryan in regards to the 'default version.' It's paraphrased based off a larger interview, which we don't have the context of why he's saying it.
It could very well have been prompted by CNET asking if there'd a premium/optionality to the custom SSD, and Jim saying the SSD comes by default.
Also, in most product lines, there are variants of the same SKU anyway. Like 1TB versions or 500GB versions of same console, etc. Or how PS3 had different number of USB slots, etc depending on which price point at launch.
It could very well have been prompted by CNET asking if there'd a premium/optionality to the custom SSD, and Jim saying the SSD comes by default.
Also, in most product lines, there are variants of the same SKU anyway. Like 1TB versions or 500GB versions of same console, etc. Or how PS3 had different number of USB slots, etc depending on which price point at launch.
I'm more in the $499 camp nowadays. I'd happily spend that on PS5.
Final prediction for xbox next-gen:
1. Lockhart: 6.7 TF @ $350
2. Anaconda: 12.3 TF @ $500
Available Fall 2020 with Halo Infinite and Forza Motorsport 8 and another new IP 1st party game
1. Lockhart: 6.7 TF @ $350
2. Anaconda: 12.3 TF @ $500
Available Fall 2020 with Halo Infinite and Forza Motorsport 8 and another new IP 1st party game
I'd say I agree with you, but with some additional power.
I'd say both systems use zen 3 with 3 way smt with custom cores for Ray Tracing. The Anaconda have more of those cores of course.
Asked in the SIE WWS thread, but thought I'd ask here as well. How many people think Sony is waiting to hit the 100 million mark on the PS4 to do their next big "event", be it a State of Play or something else? They were only about 3.2 million away from the mark at the end of April so they've got to be getting very close right now. I dunno if this hypothetical event would also include next gen related stuff, but we've gotten more than enough "rumors" that claim something next gen related will be discussed around this time of the year so I suppose it's a possibility.
Another things when the two japaneses developer(Nagoshi and another guy) were talking about PS5, they said the custom SSD is not expensive but with a great performance/cost.
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Didn't the Sony SSD patent seem to indicate it was a cost effective method as well?
i doubt its related. they might do some special edition ps4 as celebration.
I mean it should be fairly obvious that 16Gb or less is ridiculous for a 2020 next gen console, but we have people pushing that quite heavily in the thread.
24Gb is what I would be expecting, on a 384-bit bus (just like the Xbox One X's).
Basically my expectations are for about 2x the performance of the X on both Anaconda and PS5 re: RAM and GPU with a significantly better CPU in Zen 2. 11-13TF, around 24Gb RAM total in some configuration.
Some of the specs being thrown about in this thread for a late 2020 console, especially ones that might cost $500 and be sold at a loss, are embarrassing. I keep saying it but there is no way we're getting an 8TF 16Gb PS5 - that would be an embarrassment for Sony.
With each console cycle the power gaps get smaller and smaller it seems. I remember going from PS2 to PS3 was said to be something like 32 times the power of PS2. Now I'm not even sure if next gen will be 2x more powerful then current gen (if you use the X as a base). Hope I'm wrong though.
I dunno, it just seems like such an important milestone and the general timing seems to be perfect to have an event that lines up with the milestone. I do think at least one of the trillion rumors we got in the past couple of months mentioned having an event to go along with the 100 million mark, it just makes so much sense in my head, lol.
why would you use x as a base? thats incredibly dumb.
in the words of kratos "Keep your expectations low boy, and you will never be dissapointed "
Yes and from what my friend told me, they took some NAND flash and treat it differently than PC. He said because standard NAND flash speed work slower than what it is possible to do. It could be much better but they would need to design something with specific interface in PC. The speed will not be exactly the same because PC are more versatile but it could better. For him standard NAND Flash are treated like improved HDD.
Edit: For Sony this is not a SSD but Parrallel NAND Flash.
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Because X is a current gen system so I would expect/want a big upgrade over that or else why bother? Might as well just wait...
I speak about internally not in front of the press...
Edit: If they said Parrallel NAND flash no one will understand. SSD is easier to sold.
this is really, really dumb, the x came out 2 years ago.
for the consumer this is the same thing. cerny doesnt want to get into detail on what it really is right now.
this is still dumb, those previous console jumps also had a resolution jump with them that the GPU increase was used for, the x1x and the ps4 pro already account for the resolution jump.
not really. i am assuming a lot of developers will be using checkerboard as the targeted res next gen, and that would still mean around 3x graphics jump, which is almost in line with the ps4 to ps4 graphics jump.
and that is not accounting for all the other huge jumps in the other console components.
I hope it's a fairly sizable leap. Pretty exited for the new systems.
I wasn't serious... :) It's a common narrative on the internet that Sony is a hardware company and because of that they will always have the better hardware.
Ahh, gotcha. *highfive*
I have full confidence that Panos and his team will knock it out of the park.
4k120 is half 8k60 and is actually possible on HDMI 2.0 with some color compression.
Well it's still a SSD, this term tells you nothing about used technology. It's just simply "Solid State Drive".
The name is not important. I hope 10GB/s maybe it will be less but I think it is a good target.
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