New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe - Review Thread

Phil32 · Jan 9, 2019

Solaire said:
What is the better 2 player coop experience between it and Tropical Freeze?

I would say this, because it's much less of a challenge--though still rather difficult of a game at parts. Tropical Freeze can get mighty challenging even a world or two in. Both are great games, but I guess it depends on the skill levels of those playing cooperatively.

mikehaggar · Jan 9, 2019

Jonneh said:
I personally enjoy NSMBU but there's some rather baffling design decisions in this port. I don't understand why Toadette and Nabbit are mandatory multiplayer characters if you're playing with four people and why you can't toggle their handicaps off. Why can't all players play by the same rules?

Oh, this sucks to hear. Is it only four player mode? What about three players? I'm super excited for this (loved it on Wii U) and was looking forward to adding this to my collection as a great/fun multiplayer game, but this potentially changes that...

Nax · Jan 9, 2019

I'd buy at $40.

Really bummed they continually put every port out at $60.

Dark1x · Jan 9, 2019

Did they replace the soundtrack with something that isn't terrible?

karkii · Jan 9, 2019

Jonneh said:
I personally enjoy NSMBU but there's some rather baffling design decisions in this port. I don't understand why Toadette and Nabbit are mandatory multiplayer characters if you're playing with four people and why you can't toggle their handicaps off. Why can't all players play by the same rules?

This is really how it works? That seems like a super weird decision and will probably stop me from buying the game. :/

WrenchNinja · Jan 9, 2019

Dark1x said:
Did they replace the soundtrack with something that isn't terrible?

Good music only reserved for 3D Mario at this point

andymcc · Jan 9, 2019

Dark1x said:
Did they replace the soundtrack with something that isn't terrible?

Irritating soundtracks are a staple of 2D Mario games at this point.

RedDevil · Jan 9, 2019

Jonneh said:
I personally enjoy NSMBU but there's some rather baffling design decisions in this port. I don't understand why Toadette and Nabbit are mandatory multiplayer characters if you're playing with four people and why you can't toggle their handicaps off. Why can't all players play by the same rules?

Nabbit was always mandatory in NSLU if you played with four players.

ned_ballad · Jan 9, 2019

This would be 10/10 with Blue Toad

RIP little guy

Phendrana · Jan 9, 2019

$60 for this is a joke.

People will defend it though.

Aftermath · Jan 9, 2019

I'll buy it am willing to buy almost anything mario right now

Even though I once owned it on WiiU

Big_Erk · Jan 9, 2019

Phendrana said:
$60 for this is a joke.

People will defend it though.

Nope, not gonna defend it. Game should be $40.00.

Razgriz417 · Jan 9, 2019

The Bookerman said:
Wah Wah...

Thank you for reminding me of this, so good

Phendrana · Jan 9, 2019

Big_Erk said:
Nope, not gonna defend it. Game should be $40.00.

Pokemon Let's Go should be $40. This should be $30 tbh.

Deleted member 23212 · Jan 9, 2019

requiem said:
We will 100% not get Mario Kart 9 until the Switch's successor. but I do think we'll get another 2D Mario in a couple of years. I feel like the Switch's trajectory makes it the perfect platform to unleash something like Super Mario Bros. 4 or Super Mario World 3.

Super Mario World is Super Mario Bros. 4

AppleKid · Jan 9, 2019

Phendrana said:
$60 for this is a joke.

People will defend it though.

Yep, these ones that became Nintendo Selects have no good reason being priced anywhere near 60

MK8DX remains the only one that added enough content in my eyes, but even that price had me hesitant

Papacheeks · Jan 9, 2019

Phendrana said:
Pokemon Let's Go should be $40. This should be $30 tbh.

Almost all of the Wii U ports in my opinion should be 29.99-39.99 respectively. Especially games that are straight up ports without any newly added content like Bayonetta 2. It comes with a download for the first one just like the original Wii U release. But that was 4 years ago.

DAT Nintendo tax.

Just feels they are trying to milk games that didn't sell super well.

CloseTalker · Jan 9, 2019

Sounds great, can't wait to pick it up.

Berordn · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
Almost all of the Wii U ports in my opinion should be 29.99-39.99 respectively. Especially games that are straight up ports without any newly added content like Bayonetta 2. It comes with a download for the first one just like the original Wii U release. But that was 4 years ago.

DAT Nintendo tax.

Just feels they are trying to milk games that didn't sell super well.

Almost everything they've ported from Wii U sold really well, relative to the platform. NSMBU was over 5 million units, I think?

RedDevil · Jan 9, 2019

Phendrana said:
$60 for this is a joke.

People will defend it though.

Is it that bad? Considering that people might actually buy it, which is worse than defending the price of anything on some internet board.

bionic77 · Jan 9, 2019

Nax said:
I'd buy at $40.

Really bummed they continually put every port out at $60.

I have to get and beat Tropical Freeze first.

Hoping by the time that happens this will be 40 or less.

Papacheeks · Jan 9, 2019

Berordn said:
Almost everything they've ported from Wii U sold really well, relative to the platform. NSMBU was over 5 million units, I think?

Bayonetta 2 sold like dogshit, Hyrule warrirors sold like 2 million or something like that. Yea NSMBU was a port from Wii, so it sold well. But some of these ports did not, and still to charge $60 for them is kind of shitty.

Deleted member 42484 · Jan 9, 2019

Jonneh said:
I personally enjoy NSMBU but there's some rather baffling design decisions in this port. I don't understand why Toadette and Nabbit are mandatory multiplayer characters if you're playing with four people and why you can't toggle their handicaps off. Why can't all players play by the same rules?

Holy shit is this true? What a god awful design decision. Atleast in the original player 3 and 4 were just toads.

Still, I highly recommend this for anyone who missed it on WiiU. Where DK:TF doesn't really work with two players, NSMBU shines with two player co-op (3/4 gets a bit hectic)

NSLU is the better game. It's much harder, like the lost levels of NSMB. Anyone who missed it but feels bored of the sterile NSMB style, give NSLU a try.

Berordn · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
Bayonetta 2 sold like dogshit, Hyrule warrirors sold like 2 million or something like that. Yea NSMBU was a port from Wii, so it sold well. But some of these ports did not, and still to charge $60 for them is kind of shitty.

NSMBU was an original game, not a Wii port. Hyrule Warriors is on record as selling well, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

Bayonetta is the only real outlier there, even Pokken was a million seller.

andymcc · Jan 9, 2019

Phendrana said:
Pokemon Let's Go should be $40.

2D metroid should be $9.99

AnilP228 · Jan 9, 2019

Truthfully, there are better platformers on the Switch. Whether it's Donkey Kong or Celeste, there's definitely better, more refined experiences out there. That said, I do think NSMBU is a good game for casuals; it's not particularly hard and the level design is more welcoming that the other two games I mentioned.

NekoNeko · Jan 9, 2019

why should it be $40? i understand why you would like it to be but i see no reason why it should. people also thought MK8 should be $40 but that would've lost them millions of dollars.

again i understand why people want the game to be cheaper but i see no reason why they should do it if they think they make more money this way.

PrintedCrayon · Jan 9, 2019

The Bookerman said:
Wah Wah...

Dark1x said:
Did they replace the soundtrack with something that isn't terrible?

These two posts sum up everything wrong with this game.

The "wah-wah" bullshit is just intensely grating and tiresome and actively affects my enjoyment of the game.

Also £50 for this is beyond a fucking joke.

Dipro said:
why should it be $40? i understand why you would like it to be but i see no reason why it should. people also thought MK8 should be $40 but that would've lost them millions of dollars.

again i understand why people want the game to be cheaper but i see no reason why they should do it if they think they make more money this way.

Probably due to the fact this is a port of a 6 year old game? I can't imagine Nintendo went through a great cost to port this to Switch and the added extras don't seem as if they would have been expensive or time consuming to implement?

Papacheeks · Jan 9, 2019

Berordn said:
NSMBU was an original game, not a Wii port. Hyrule Warriors is on record as selling well, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

Bayonetta is the only real outlier there, even Pokken was a million seller.

Edit: i was mistaken, had assets from Wii game but was a sequel, not port.
. NSMBU technically was a sequel but a lot of things were similar to Wii counterpart. And luigi's DLC/expansion was added.

RedDevil · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
Bayonetta 2 sold like dogshit, Hyrule warrirors sold like 2 million or something like that. Yea NSMBU was a port from Wii, so it sold well. But some of these ports did not, and still to charge $60 for them is kind of shitty.

Papacheeks said:
NSMBU was a port from the Wii that had been reworked for Wii U, then had a expansion added.

Are you one of those who claimed that Splatoon 2 was a port? NSMBU wasn't a port.

Denman said:
Holy shit is this true? What a god awful design decision. Atleast in the original player 3 and 4 were just toads.

Still, I highly recommend this for anyone who missed it on WiiU. Where DK:TF doesn't really work with two players, NSMBU shines with two player co-op (3/4 gets a bit hectic)

NSLU is the better game. It's much harder, like the lost levels of NSMB. Anyone who missed it but feels bored of the sterile NSMB style, give NSLU a try.

As I said before in NSLU it was always the case that at least one player had to be Nabbit when playing with four players.

Berordn · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
NSMBU was a port from the Wii that had been reworked for Wii U, then had a expansion added.

You're blatantly misinformed?

NSMBU is a totally original game that shares mechanics and some assets with New Super Mario Bros. Wii, but they are completely different games.

The Anonymous Wizard · Jan 9, 2019

I really dislike the aesthetic of these 'New' series games... Art style is cheap looking and the music is horrendous.

Azuardo · Jan 9, 2019

Hey, just sharing Cubed3's review:

http://www.cubed3.com/review/5262/1/new-super-mario-bros-u-deluxe-nintendo-switch.html

9/10 - Exceptional

New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxeis an exemplary compilation. Both games have received some quality of life enhancements, and playing as Toadette is pretty entertaining. More importantly, this is simply some of the best content in the Super Mario saga. It's amazing how every element comes together for a thoroughly refined platforming experience. The level design is nothing short of genius, and the flawless controls make every leap more joyous than the last. Everyone who hasn't already played through the Wii U version should pick this up immediately.

Aprikurt · Jan 9, 2019

I'd rather a 3D World Deluxe but the NVC team spoke very highly of this one. I think I'm just done with 2D Switch titles.

unicornKnight · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
. NSMBU technically was a sequel but a lot of things were similar to Wii counterpart. And luigi's DLC/expansion was added.

If you mean it was originally made for Wii then decided to move it on Wii U then 1. source please, 2. that's not a port, it's still a new game, they just changed the platform

andymcc · Jan 9, 2019

Papacheeks said:
Edit: i was mistaken, had assets from Wii game but was a sequel, not port.
. NSMBU technically was a sequel but a lot of things were similar to Wii counterpart. And luigi's DLC/expansion was added.

the only thing similar is that it has a shared aesthetic and music-- that's it.

Based0ne · Jan 9, 2019

I guess I'll get it eventually, wasn't in a rush to get this especially with the fact the other major releases coming out for this month. I did enjoy the game when it came out on the Wii U but never managed to beat it.

Gartooth · Jan 9, 2019

Glad reviewers brought up the removal of Blue Toad.

Justice for Blue Toad!

andymcc · Jan 9, 2019

The Anonymous Wizard said:
I really dislike the aesthetic of these 'New' series games... Art style is cheap looking and the music is horrendous.

They play as good as they look bad.

secretanchitman · Jan 9, 2019

$60? Hell no - it should be $30 or less considering they didn't add much to this port and that it's a 6 year old game with recycled art and music.

Deleted member 17207 · Jan 9, 2019

Every time I see this game I hope to God Nintendo gives 2D Mario an art shake-up for the next go-around. Gimme Cuphead-like animation in this style:

Hero · Jan 9, 2019

The game as a single player experience is excellent and some of the best 2D levels the series has ever seen. Worth it if you never played the original.

The spin move not being able to be assigned to a button and blue toad being removed is baffling. Surely both of those have to be patched at some point?

Comic Obsessed said:
I already mentioned why I prefer to support those games over this one.

You said those games were objectively better. As someone that played both Travis Strikes Again and Dragon Marked for Death, I wasn't impressed from their booth demos. Still getting both to support them but you don't need to shit on one thing to elevate something else.

Jazzem · Jan 9, 2019

Digital Foundry:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-new-super-mario-bros-u-deluxe-tech-analysis

Snake Eater · Jan 9, 2019

I just can't get over how terrible and bad the art style is in this game, except that one watercolor painting level

KratosEnergyDrink · Jan 9, 2019

Zem said:
If you've never played it then you should get Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze or Celeste instead. It's so bland. The Luigi stuff was slightly better but it's not worth the full price.

This are three very different games, you could enjoy every single one of them but hate the others. The gameplay in Donkey Kong, Celeste and NSMBU is very different.

samthebreadman · Jan 9, 2019

VDenter said:
The Gamexplain review sums this game up perfectly.

Yep. Still buying it though. It's one of those games thats great to stow away for multiplayer sessions.

entremet · Jan 9, 2019

VDenter said:
Just like with 3D World, those people have a tendency to over inflate the value of Wii U era Mario games.

The price is hurting this game in the reviews honestly. That and the New aesthetic fatigue. The game is brilliant, though. I agree with Jeremy Parish. He says it's the best 2D Mario.

Comic Obsessed · Jan 9, 2019

Hero said:
You said those games were objectively better. As someone that played both Travis Strikes Again and Dragon Marked for Death, I wasn't impressed from their booth demos. Still getting both to support them but you don't need to shit on one thing to elevate something else.

Eh, I feel like this one deserves to be sh*tted on.

Yukinari · Jan 9, 2019

Dipro said:
why should it be $40? i understand why you would like it to be but i see no reason why it should. people also thought MK8 should be $40 but that would've lost them millions of dollars.

again i understand why people want the game to be cheaper but i see no reason why they should do it if they think they make more money this way.

I never understand when people play devil's advocate like this. Yeah obviously if nintendo can get away with charging people for barebones online and 60 dollar ports with minimal content of course they will. Any company would.

But some companies are doing full on remakes/remasters for half the price. Its fair to criticize the blatant greed.

ZeoVGM · Jan 9, 2019

Comic Obsessed said:
Just as expected, is scoring lower than the original.

Which is understandable. As I've said before, NSMBU pretty much got the reverse effect of Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. While DKCTF got better reception with the years up to the point of becoming a cult classic, NSMBU got simply blander and blander everytime a new 2D platformer was released after it.

There are better games releasing this month on Switch that deserve our support more anyway.

While I understand people being tired of the art style and music, this is the best in the NSMB series and a legitimately fantastic game. It's one of the best platformers this decade.

TF is obviously better, of course.

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