how the fuck is calling out stupidity on the other thread fanboyism? I barely engaged in that thread
I don't even care about this game, I just wanted to bring attention to the embarrassment that was the discourse that was happening there.
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New in-depth The Last of Us Part I video showcases how Naughty Dog overhauled visuals and gameplay (Features and Gameplay Trailer)
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how the fuck is calling out stupidity on the other thread fanboyism? I barely engaged in that thread
I don't even care about this game, I just wanted to bring attention to the embarrassment that was the discourse that was happening there.
I think the problem is, they game got huge expectations before it was even announced.
If i recall right, it was Jason that said "TLOU with TLOU2 Graphics and gameplay". So expectations where set back then. I don't recall Sony/ND ever hinting the game having "Huge" or "extensive" game play improvements, let alone being on par with TLOU2.
If i recall right, it was Jason that said "TLOU with TLOU2 Graphics and gameplay". So expectations where set back then. I don't recall Sony/ND ever hinting the game having "Huge" or "extensive" game play improvements, let alone being on par with TLOU2.
User Banned (1 day): Attempting to start cross-thread drama. Don’t mass quote 32 people to try to start fights.
Reading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
The enemy AI being improved is nice (as is accessibility features from part 2 , but otherwise it seems like just better graphics and cool extras, but even then this doesn't warrant close to $70 dollars. This should've been a 10-20 dollar upgrade.
I stand by what I said in the other thread, tho the price point looks slightly less bad now. Zero improvements to gamplay aside from the better AI is a giant shame.
I stand by what I said in the other thread, tho the price point looks slightly less bad now. Zero improvements to gamplay aside from the better AI is a giant shame.
Reading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
So 32 posts out of 1,8k? We are looking at a single digit percentage of people saying dumb shit while the vast majority, vast majority were arguing in good faith.
"I really hope we're not just blanket labeling any critique as toxic again.."Reading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
I've said it before but people on here like to think they're above the general toxicity you see on the internet but given an opportunity to insult and harrass devs, boy do people love taking it.
The $70 price tag is toxicReading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
Everyone on the first pages "lol at the other thread" "the other one aged like milk".
But did it? Did it really? Nobody (really) denied that the game looks good and in some areas even a lot better than the OG remaster (which immediately gets ruined with not having real 4K60 anymore), but does this presentation really shows the gameplay changes and gameplay and feature improvements everyone was promised to or is everyone just pointing fingers now just because ND did "something" in reaction even tho nothing really changed about what was criticized?
But did it? Did it really? Nobody (really) denied that the game looks good and in some areas even a lot better than the OG remaster (which immediately gets ruined with not having real 4K60 anymore), but does this presentation really shows the gameplay changes and gameplay and feature improvements everyone was promised to or is everyone just pointing fingers now just because ND did "something" in reaction even tho nothing really changed about what was criticized?
Lol 0.3% of posts but ok I guess we need to build a whole straw man for thatReading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
I really hope the AI can loose track of you if you hide once you've been detected. In the original they always know where you are once just one AI-entity has detected you. Also the scenarios where they spawn reinforcements after you used stealth to kill everyone off are hopefully changed. If I'm skilled enough to kill everyone using stealth, don't punish me by spawning new enemies behind my back
toxicity is toxicity regardless of the number of good faith posts that outweigh it. I get that some were voicing dissatisfaction but those 32 posts honestly felt like they were setting the tone for the rest of thread.
Yeah 100%
This thread didn't go the way the first page gotcha gang thought it would. Absolute thread backfire for them
The last thread was 99% the same in tone as this one, with just a handful of idiots saying dumb stuff (who were hopefully reported and banned for doing so)
In fact, the only ban I'm aware of was someone implying the people with concerns were probably the same people who were mad at TLOU2 for being "too woke"
It's been exhausting taking about this game anyway, I've never seen so many people get so much pushback and resistance for having legitimate concerns, and the first page of this thread is truly and utterly bizarre
Beautiful. I can't wait to be blown away.
This is a game I play once a year and it's easily the best way to experience it, so it's well worth whatever price they're asking for.
This is a game I play once a year and it's easily the best way to experience it, so it's well worth whatever price they're asking for.
Yeah the game for 80€ is literally a scam.Reading the "bizarre" replies earlier in the thread, I did a quick search.
Cash grab/scam:
Liars/Lazy developers:
The Nefarious and Strange Hiding Gameplay Conspiracy™:
Dunking on a developer:
Some dumb drivel from Reddit:
But sure, y'all were just talking about silencers and going prone and the rhetoric and tone of the thread was fair and fine :)
How can you justify a 80€ price for a remake that has less content than the original game? Because this scam comes without online LMAO.
This should have been 40€ max, like the RE remakes.
Calling it a cash grab isn't toxic. Like 70% of the quoted posts are quite tame to be honest, this isn't really some gotcha.
Activision out of all companies gave us a complete remake of THPS 1+2 combined for 50 bucks added in mechanics from future games as well, while TLOU1 is 70 bucks, more expensive than the original, but with less content and very minimal gameplay improvements.
Nobody is saying that the thread didn't have some dumb posts, but painting the whole thread and the people arguing in good faith as "toxic" or even demanding to ban them; like some posts we saw here, especially in the first page, it's pretty pathetic.
There's one side of ND fans that can't accept legit criticism and the other side of people getting way too personal regarding pricing and gameplay details.
So there are no improvements in physics, gunplay, animations or AI?
Yikes.
This insulting devs narrative is funny. Yes there's some weird comments and those need to be called out. But reality is Sony is the publisher, and are responsible for what I consider an overpriced game. Many of the criticisms are for Sony not ND.
As I said in the previous thread, if it was an EA, majority would be fine with someone calling it a cash grab. Most would not remember they have devs under them.
I get you would defend what you like but calling others toxic for criticism is wrong.
Yeah I fully agree.
I saw this thread before watching the video and was fully expecting previous footage to be completely debunked from some of the comments.
This official video has just confirmed that the focus is on graphical improvements, audio and haptics. From the comments made during the reveal I was expecting a little more in terms of level design changes and movement so this still isn't a buy for me at release but I would still be interested in picking it up down the line.
Exactly this LMAO. People are defending a multi billion dollar company for selling us a 80€ remake with less content than the original game.
I really don't fall in either camp as I am not invested in this game or it's success nor do I have an affinity for this studio whatsoever. I just remember the thread (at least at the point where I got in) had a lot embarrassing takes like the ones that was listed in the other post here and wanted that shit to stop and let actual critical discourse happen here instead.
32? Nah, aim higher. But whatever, I won't even buy this game and I fully understand the dissatisfaction regarding price or expectations. The tone of part of that thread tho? Embarrassing.
"Lol" indeed. Have a good day, mate ;)
Who is tricking you?
From the in depth video in the op:
* There are more destructible environments
* There is motion matching for the player animation and movement
* AI for companions hiding and enemies tracking has improved
Looks like what I expected from the game when we first started hearing about it, looks great and I'm glad they've put a lot of thought into the accessibility options for newcomers or people who couldn't really play the original game. Plus some good quality of life improvements.
I'm not going to be able to play the game day 1, but it's something I look forward to playing.
I'm not going to be able to play the game day 1, but it's something I look forward to playing.
I googled the definition of SCAM for you:
"an illegal plan for making money, especially one that involves tricking people"
How are they trying to trick people into buying this game, when they've just shown a 10 Minute Video of the game lol?
Fuckin lol, people throw words around here without even knowing what they mean. It's exhausting and honestly pretty embarassing.
Men that first page is legit hilarious. Anyway the visuals look incredible but not worth full price for me. I have played the better game in terms of gameplay in part 2. No prone or dodge as simple as that is. Is a deal breaker for me. This should be a $60 game at best. Anyway excitement moves to GOW
With all due respect why would people be more understanding of a large publisher vs smaller devs?
So I'm pretty sure that the two on the middle and bottom left are young Joel skins but when they hover over the grey one he still looks old? I really, really hope they let us play through the main game as young Joel, it's always been that one thing the original game never did that I've always wanted. I'd really hate it if it was just two skins for him when you're playing the opening and he's still older for the rest of the game.
Huh, good spot. The two on the left definitely look younger.
So I'm pretty sure that the two on the middle and bottom left are young Joel skins but when they hover over the grey one he still looks old? I really, really hope they let us play through the main game as young Joel, it's always been that one thing the original game never did that I've always wanted. I'd really hate it if it was just two skins for him when you're playing the opening and he's still older for the rest of the game.
It's certainly not a scam, especially now they are upfront about what you are getting. Personally I don't think it's good value and won't be jumping in at that price point. On the other hand it's a nice thing to exist and TLOU is such a near perfect game I wouldn't want to change it up much anyway. If anything Part 2 needs a makeover to make it less indulgent and dull.