This sounds like this could have been Episodes VII-IX and the Disney trilogy could have still happened as Episodes X-XII
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New details on George Lucas' ideas for the sequel trilogy emerge
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It's not great, but it's AMAZING actually hearing a plan instead of the putrid diarrhea Disney shit out and insulted Star Wars by calling it a "Sequel Trilogy".
We already know his plan changed a bunch of times though
These ideas for the sequel trilogy are barely similar to his other stated ideas for the sequel trilogy lmao
Also George stop fucking up your own lore dude
Also George stop fucking up your own lore dude
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Not going to lie, this would actually terrify me
To be able to lick a frigging Lightsaber and not show any pain
Its insane
I think after how safe and bland the ST was people just really want something that's really out there, even if in retrospect we would have complained it was a terrible idea.
The sheer amount of Darth Talon cosplay/cosplay porn is almost disturbing.
Yes, I know this, don't judge me.
My cannon is the three books written by Timothy Zahn. Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command. Nothing will come close to those books read them all last month so glad I did. Zahn was authorized by Lucas to write them back in the 90's.
Disagree in the sense that I like the way the trilogy was going, with TLJ in particular, until they decided to bring back fucking Palpatine and derail everything.
I share your opinion, but I think TROS soured a lot of us on the whole trilogy since when you rewatch it you already know every plot point is gonna end up shit
His comments on The Force line up with my own thread and I dig it. I would've loved to have seen his Sequel Trilogy. Instead, we got garbage.
Yes but the clone is hardly around in the book hes just in for a couple of pages in the third book. Not sure how people took it but I liked the idea.
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I still really like how JJ had the first order be the neo nazis of the empire. It was really ahead of its time in 2014/13 when he wrote it and there was so much relevant to today to tap into. It just sucks the ball was dropped
This sounds like a combination of his ideas from the 80s (short time skip, Luke and Leia with prominent roles) and his ideas from 2012 (Darths Talon and Maul). According to Mark Hamill, in the first meeting he and Carrie Fisher had with George about the sequel trilogy in 2012, Lucas told them if they didn't want to do it, their characters would just be written out. That does not fit with how important Luke and Leia sound here.
Hamil also said that Carrie Fisher accepted it instantly, so perhaps Lucas expected that outcome for her at least.
I thought Luke and Leia were never really 'chosen ones'? At one point sure, but with where the story is via the expanded stuff, wasn't Anakin the chosen one still? There's some real odd episodes in season 4 where he technically fulfills his prophecy and brings balance to the force. Just they never actually share those events with anyone.
Whatever balance Luke and Leia were intended to bring always seemed to be a fruitless effort as their goal is to take down the empire. The balance already existed and to eradicate the sith would break that balance.
Whatever balance Luke and Leia were intended to bring always seemed to be a fruitless effort as their goal is to take down the empire. The balance already existed and to eradicate the sith would break that balance.
George changed his mind a lot. The chosen one thing didn't even exist in the original trilogy.
This is Darth Talon btw
I don't see Lucas letting her run around in his new trilogy with that kind of aesthetic.
It doesn't sound like he'd lead the "empire". He'd lead a criminal organization spread throughout the new republic.
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Sith are whoever they need to be. Palpatine found it useful to stoke anti-alien sentiment among humans in the galaxy as a control mechanism in the Empire.
Honestly, change Darth Talon to be less risque and get rid of the Whillis stuff, and this would make a pretty cool post RotJ animated series.
Sequel Trilogy having been based off the U.S.'s undercooked and abandoned nation-building in the Middle East would have been so much more interesting, holy cow. Luke & co come in and blow up the Empire in Ep.6 and it's a huge celebration, but then...? They are soldiers, not politicians and engineers, so the galaxy fractures and different groups pop in to fill in the power vacuum.
This would have been a great way to launch a never ending set of movies too, because ST 1 could have been this region controlled by the first order or whatever (remants of the Empire and fanboys using recovered weaponry, similar to former USSR areas), then ST 2 could have been another region with another faction, etc.
This would have been a great way to launch a never ending set of movies too, because ST 1 could have been this region controlled by the first order or whatever (remants of the Empire and fanboys using recovered weaponry, similar to former USSR areas), then ST 2 could have been another region with another faction, etc.
I really like the Sith killing themselves part. Its in their nature, so the rule of two is not a rule, just the way it has to be due to the nature of how they use the force.
Now, him saying the jedi are "more in balance with the force" after saying that whoever does not agree with them they chop the hands off them, and they are monks, and the whole "no relationship"" thing is laughable. Saying they have a moral imperative to do all this because "they are monks" is the big wasted opportunity here. So it really never occurred to him to let the force uses free to use the force without being either blue goody or bad reddie, huh? Too bad.
Now, him saying the jedi are "more in balance with the force" after saying that whoever does not agree with them they chop the hands off them, and they are monks, and the whole "no relationship"" thing is laughable. Saying they have a moral imperative to do all this because "they are monks" is the big wasted opportunity here. So it really never occurred to him to let the force uses free to use the force without being either blue goody or bad reddie, huh? Too bad.
The unwillingness to mention anything from the prequels or even integrate them into the sequels were one of the biggest disappointments of the sequels.
"Integrate" maybe, but prequel stuff did get a lot of mentions in the sequels
ironically, TLJ probably gives the biggest prequel shoutout of the trilogy with its Darth Sidious name drop.
Were they?
Off hand I only remember like one or two things from TROS and even then I can't really name them, but I don't remember any mentions to events, characters, or locations from the prequel in TFA or TLJ.
Yeah but he's as much an OT character as he is a PT character. In fact not mentioning him would have been bizarre since he was the former emperor.
Luke summarizes the whole prequel trilogy to Rey in TLJ, right down to name-dropping Darth Sidious and the Jedi Order
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Oh right that's true. It didn't even register as a PT reference lmao.
Prequel hate was pretty much at an all high during the time TFA was in development, probably in thanks to the then recent Redlettermedia reviews. So it does make sense to why the films were mostly punted aside in the sequel films, outside of a few small references.
TFA was basically a response to the prequels. TLJ was a response to TFA. And then TROS was obviously a response to TLJ. All of them were just trying to overcorrect one another.
TFA was basically a response to the prequels. TLJ was a response to TFA. And then TROS was obviously a response to TLJ. All of them were just trying to overcorrect one another.
But he's not referred to by that name in the OT (and actually, how many people even know that Palpatine = Darth Sidious?). I'd also argue Palpatine is way more of a PT character than the OT, where is more of a background presence for much of that trilogy. McDiarmid's screentime in any of the prequels is probably greater than all his ROTJ scenes too.
TLJ was not a "response" to TFA, the movie had already started some filming before TFA was even out and the script had been written before TFA had even wrapped its own shooting iirc.
