I got spoiled while looking at the Jordan # on Twitter last night. These leaks are going to be everywhere because people suck.
damn, I was afraid it'd be on non related posts and threads
Ouch
I got spoiled while looking at the Jordan # on Twitter last night. These leaks are going to be everywhere because people suck.
There's 'showing sympathy' and then there's just bloodlust. You have people hoping whoever leaked this gets sued to oblivion, jailed and probably even worse. But yeah, 'sympathy' lol.
There are massive legal ramifications to what the person did on top of just generally being an incredibly shitty thing to do. I don't believe in jail time for non violent offenses (and in this specific case would be completely ridiculous) personally but it seems pretty obvious they're going to have to pay. A lot.
Yes. It was video footage and screenshots from the game this time. Not just words on a page.
They most likely broke a legally binding contract and an NDA by leaking by leaking sensitive information on a AAA big budget product. The fuck do you think is gonna happen to them? A stern warning? Lmfao.
The dude who leaked the Half-life 2 source code before its release got sent to jail. It's not "bloodlust" it's reality.
Tbh I would agree but since now we have ignore thread option it's no longer a concern to me
Does this work on mobile?
This company (and plenty of others) has been "called out" repeatedly, and ignored it. Have you not read any gaming news this decade? One story of abuse and exploitation after another. This leak will do more to protect workers from game company abuse and exploitation than literally anything else that's ever happened in the industry.There was ways to call out ND without trying to fuck over the product they worked hard on.
It's too bad major gaming websites encourage the spread and discussion of these leaks.
I mean they can say it will be worth it, but there are alot of very upset fans out there. I have a feeling their sales expectations just took a nosedive.
Apparently it a QA tester.This whole thing is shit, to work so hard on the game, only to have one asshole ruin it. Hope they find the guy and end his career in the industry.
holy fuckEven if ND has the worst place to work on earth, no one should leak the game like that. That person just destroyed all ND employees and people who wanted to experience the game too.
I think defending that leaker isn't much different than defending crunch...
Anyone have decent keywords for this thing? I think just blocking "Joel" and "Ellie" will catch way more than The Last of Us 2 lol.
Which is currently just a rumor and I highly doubt it.Wow people are trying to make the leaker into an anti-crunch martyr???
That's absolutely wild
Oh I'm sure it will still sell well. Just not as good as it would have before all of this.The social media bubble is not real life. Whether its politics, video games, whatever.
This game is going to sell massively regardless if some folks (including some people in this thread) want it to or not.
How do you know?
Well at least you know where people really stand when these crunch articles come out.
Even if ND has the worst place to work on earth, no one should leak the game like that. That person just destroyed all ND employees and people who wanted to experience the game too.
I think defending that leaker isn't much different than defending crunch...
I kind of doubt that the conclusion will be "lets treat our employees better and hope it doesn't happen again".This company (and plenty of others) has been "called out" repeatedly, and ignored it. Have you not read any gaming news this decade? One story of abuse and exploitation after another. This leak will do more to protect workers from game company abuse and exploitation than literally anything else that's ever happened in the industry.
I mean they can say it will be worth it, but there are alot of very upset fans out there. I have a feeling their sales expectations just took a nosedive.
Someone mentioned it early in the thread. I said apparently since it is not corroborated.
I mean, I'm sure the people in the terrible working conditions with little pay (or none as it would appear) are real hurt about the millions of people being spoiledSure but it's not just about spoilers. It's leaking a game that multiple people worked hard on and runining it for millions of people.
There was ways to call out ND without trying to fuck over the product they worked hard on.
That it's a rumor at all also makes me wonder if it's really martyr thing. After all if you do it as protest the whole point would be to get your message across, not have people guessing.Which is currently just a rumor and I highly doubt it.
Someone was uploading youtube videos named COVID like 2-3 weeks ago, probably the same person. I think it is just what happens when transitioning to a WFH environment during a pandemic, someone might have gotten something from someone or an accidental file transfer or a roomate sharing with someone else ect. ect.
Also knowing ND, it is definitely not a money dispute, they have been compensating their employees (and even those not working there) very well during this.
Maybe it means the situation at ND is particular catastrophic compared to other companiesAlso I get that it sucks for the other workers at ND, but I am having a hard time having sympathy for the company itself given its behind the scenes issues.
To be honest I'm actually surprised that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often given how terrible people in the industry are treated at times.
Even if ND has the worst place to work on earth, no one should leak the game like that. That person just destroyed all ND employees and people who wanted to experience the game too.
I think defending that leaker isn't much different than defending crunch...
I just never get these things. It's not like major leaks on movies or games is new. I just don't see the appeal in doing it as an individual. Makes me think these people are just massive assholes or trolls.
You have people in the industry talking about how heartbreaking leaks such as this are in this very thread, but carry on.Yes a leak "DESTROYED" all ND employees for sure.
Some of you are really reaching.
This is ridiculous shit. You don't force everyone to suffer because you are. This idea you're free to break the law because your company is being shitty is ridiculous and is not going to end well for this leaker or anyone who does this stuff. People leak things all the time and are PUNISHED for it.This company (and plenty of others) has been "called out" repeatedly, and ignored it. Have you not read any gaming news this decade? One story of abuse and exploitation after another. This leak will do more to protect workers from game company abuse and exploitation than literally anything else that's ever happened in the industry.
ND is shit for crunching and the gaming industry should be hitting these issues more often. I still don't think everyone should get thrown under the bus because ND decided to be assholes. This isn't going to change anything about crunch because plenty of games have been leaked before.I mean, I'm sure the people in the terrible working conditions with little pay (or none as it would appear) are real hurt about the millions of people being spoiled
You know what? They probably were conflicted about it and probably are sad to have done it.
But fuck Naughty Dog for crunching.
it's tiring at this point.I don't understand the trend of folks reading or watching out of context ending spoilers of something and deciding "wow this game is fucking trash, they ruined it". The same thing happened with FF7.
You have people in the industry talking about how heartbreaking leaks such as this are in this very thread, but carry on.
My friend has been crying about this, it's a realll shit feeling when something you been killing yourself over gets sent out and ruined for people early.
People are so selfish and fucked. But its the process of moving from a creative medium, to releasing it to the public. Always feels like giving your child away.
Too bad the internet can fucking suck. But its good a lot of people are avoiding and protecting from it.
Oh I'm sure it will still sell well. Just not as good as it would have before all of this.
You work on a game for years. To see people enjoy it when the game is officially released as they progress through the story and experience it first hand. Only to see heavy spoiler leaks get released online.Yes a leak "DESTROYED" all ND employees for sure.
Some of you are really reaching.
Yes a leak "DESTROYED" all ND employees for sure.
Some of you are really reaching.
So you think all of the angry fans out there upset at the leaks are still going to Shell out $60 day 1? That is quite a bit of optimism you have there.It will sell as good as it would have before all of this. Leaks are not relevant to the purchasing decision of the mass market.
As always, context is king, and what you're doing, acting like some people aren't really upset because of their hard work being spewed out into the ether without any context, is misleading. Yes some ND people are upset about this. There is nothing reaching about that.
There is a middle ground between being disappointed and destroyed by a leak.
Regardless of it, the leak happened and you can't do much now.