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Modern Warfare's Post Launch Approach to New Content (No Loot Box System)
- Thread starter Strakt
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I hope that remains the case for the full year of support. Activision's track record in this regard is a telling one, but fingers crossed they really are changing the approach for good this time around.
Not sure how CS:GO works, but a Battle Pass is an objective-based level system that gives you rewards for each level up you get. Also works by seasons, so they're time limited by nature.
Yeah because flaming submachine guns and goofy outfits is much better than having a few new maps every 4 months. Oh you gotta play atleast 5 hours a day for a month to get those flaming submachine guns though. Or spend another 20 to skip a few tiers.
Well If I buy the game, I'm probably getting 12-16 maps free of charge (judging by previous COD DLC packs) and I don't really have to do anything. So yeah it ain't a bad deal is it?
There will be cosmetic variants with different iron sights and styling.
Like in WW2 this was the PPSH
This was the highly sought PPSH Duck Soup Variant that had better iron sights and different look but stats wise it was the exact same. Each gun had many different variants.
well in fairness it's a millions times better deal than previous games.
Because they are already charging you $60.
Just because there is work on a game after launch doesn't mean there should be a microtransactions system in the game, they'll make an insane profit without it.
Firstly, I would rather pay $100 upfront and not get this garbage system. Is that going to cover the cost of 1 year support? If not, they know their printing money with battlepasses that far exceeds that of their usual season passes and lootboxes.
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No, it's not "earning stuff" thats the problem, it is being OBLIGATED to doing it within a certain time frame or losing the ability to earn what you paid for that's the problem when you don't run the hamster wheel at THEIR whim.
I would rather pay for a season pass upfront, earn guns etc the way we always did in games like Battlefield 3, 4, for example.
Please, don't believe their corporate garbage rhetoric of "how do you think post launch content gets made?" , its all of us handing them a blank check for them even change the economy further (ya know, "evolve" that really means how they dangle the carrot in front of you getting you to reach your wallet.) to make it even worse down the line thats a problem.
I would rather know up front how much I need to pay to get my time and money's worth from a game.
Lootboxes are also NOT as bad as a timed Battlepass system IF you can earn boxes FAIRLY, and I think COD WW2 and COD Remaster had a relatively fair system.
But now.. it's pay to win in a different way, hence their differentiation of the words BASE guns, PREMIUM guns.. and of course if you running their hamster wheel every day to earn the potential PREMIUM guns, you'd get killed by those that paid to shorten their time to earn those paid for Battlepass guns. (Afterall, if you dont earn them on time, you lose those guns you paid for for forever)
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But then there's psychos who prefer having cosmetic loot boxes back than this.
If Battlefield 5 is anything to go by we won't see the same amount of maps post launch as if they were paid.
Plus the game will split "free" content over regular MP, Ground War and the Spec Ops stuff. I am kinda expecting loads of remakes and Ground War will probably have 2 or 3 maps if lucky. Plus, by this time next year they will be talking new CoD BR stuff.
Someone found a list of maps in the PC code. Who knows if these are actually going to all be in but here they are
Regular Maps
- Aniyah Palace
- Aniyah Tac
- Azhir Cave (Night)
- Azhir Cave
- Crash
- Dam
- Deadzone
- Grounded
- Scorch
- Varskaya District
- Euphrates Bridge
- Faridah
- Smetna Farms
- Frontier
- Gulag
- Hackney Yard
- Hackney Yard (Night)
- Lumber
- Malyshev
- Precinct
- Milbase 1
- Milbase 2
- Neon
- Petrograd
- Piccadilly
- Port 2
- Noir
- Prison
- Frost
- Crusher
- Gun Runner
- Gun Runner (Night)
- Rivne
- Rust
- Shipment
- Shipment (Night)
- Terminal
- Slums
- Spear
- Spear (Night)
- Speed
- Stadium
- Sub Base
- Transit
- Takedown
- Torez
- Karst River Quarry
That game isn't anything to go by because it was a halfassed game at launch for full price with stuff that should have been there day one being dripped in over a year at least.
Modern Warfare is looking to have the most content since MW2 at the very least.
That would be a solid list, minus the night versions. I wonder if this list also covers campaign maps as well? The previous games always had a fairly solid amount of maps, even if they padded it a bit with remakes etc. Still, interested to see if Ground War gets love or if it's gets ignored.
But it's still the only example to go by. And I can totally see Activision half-assing the post launch like EA did.
Not sure. I hope we see some MW2 remakes. That game had the best maps.
Sub Base and Terminal are on there so that would already be 2 of the best imo.
That's great, this generation must be an absolute treat for you.
They're already annoying, they're ever-present and become a greater and greater psychological pull on the player until they succumb and buy it for more than they would have paid for a few lootboxes, and then companies get to roll out a brand new one a year later.
The worst part is that they're time limited, so you also get that FOMO that only limited time lootboxes had, making people feel as if they are losing out on the value of the battle pass if they don't dedicate SIGNIFICANT time to it.
It's more abstract than lootboxes and might be less predatory, but when every game has one of these fucking things people will realize they're still being exploited.
The battle pass system is really just an extension of the games that unlock items as you play but a bit more visible. Skins, emotes etc that would normally be in a box, are now in the season pass for people to unlock as they play. Kinda like a big loot box that you know what is in it before you open it. Loot advent calender.
I am guessing there is also plans for a paid battle pass for even more unlocks!
I am guessing there is also plans for a paid battle pass for even more unlocks!
The FOMO is strong with this one. Well at least it is the lesser evil...Not going to buy day 1. Imma wait till friends say it is definitely worthy a purchase.
lol no, just look at any popular shooter that took the free post launch dlc model. you get maybe 1 or 2 maps every couple of months, but more cosmetics to purchase. and if that game is a 'hero' type shooter then you get 1 new hero every 3 months (maybe more).
I feel like a jerk but I'm still suspicious of the language. Why do the keep saying base weapons instead of all weapons? Like some advanced weapons that will only available in the paid battlepass tier will exist or something like that.
Edit: Looking up on the page yeah that seems about right.
Edit: Looking up on the page yeah that seems about right.
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My only issue with the MW MTX atm is they are selling the special operator skins but we have no clue what those operators even look like without them a week before the game releases.
and this is literally the only in-game image we have of the 3
and this is literally the only in-game image we have of the 3
This was a really nice read, it seems like Photogrammetry really is the future, especially with how efficient it all is. Capcom swears by it now so I'll be nice to see more studios adopt the process going into next-gen.