Say they were in danger. The lives of a few are worth more than the millions of Muslims and dissidents formerly and currently in death camps?
Why do you see no value in their lives?
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Lebron James thinks Daryl Morey was misinformed on China [see updated OP for clarification]
- Thread starter Mr.Awesome
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Why do you see no value in their lives?
To their own people is very different from doing it to some of the biggest names in the USA though.
its not just the athletes.
also its not hard to imagine what it feels like when shit is getting cancelled left and right, you are being told to not leave the hotel. You try being in a foreign country after finding out one of your coworkers just pissed off important people and now you are being treated differently....can't imagine thats easy on the mind. Regardless of their status, no one is fucking thinking about that in the moment.
Fuck all the way off with this.
Wonder how your league's "difficult week" compares to millions of oppressed Chinese.
And when did he do that? Because that's not what he did here.
If we're operating under the assumption that the CCP is so hostile and volatile that someone tangentially related to Lebron James tweeting something as benign as "Stand with Hong Kong" is enough to put him in any type of danger other than financially, it's a much stronger condemnation of the NBA deal with China than this whole saga will ever be.
If that's the case, the players should not be there in the first place.
If that's the case, the players should not be there in the first place.
i cant fathom a scenario where he isnt handed a golden parachute.
BronBron needs to just...shut up and dribble.
Who else is it then?
The NBA already said he wouldn't be punished and the Rockets can't really fire him after this.
yeah it really feels like lebron just unintentionally fanned the flames. ain't gonna complain about that though
He better hope that team doesn't lose a few games in a row. They're gonna be looking for any excuse to get rid of him.
Still this puts him in a bit of an awkward spot. Either he's educated on the situation so feels unsafe but chooses to word things in a way where hes very careful for it to sound friendly to the CCP, or he's completely unaware and had no reason to be worried.
Yeah I have and I wish Lebron spoke on that. But there is no way China would imprison Lebron and the rest of the NBA players and staff. It's kinda laughable that people actually believe that.
China harming Lebron would've probably led to War or something.
Many people think in black & white on the issue of HK/China, but that's because China itself has made it into a black & white issue by taking a zero tolerance stance on any perceived criticism.
Oh fuck off with this. I am firm supporter of the Hong Kong protests and have been since they started. And i have already boycott Blizzard and deleted all their shit for their handling of the Hearthstone incident. Just because I am not willing to bury LeBron because he pointed out that Morey didn't consoder the safety of the NBA personnel in China doesn't mean I "see no value in the lives" of people in death camps.
To even try to imply that is fucking bullshit and you know it.
Just want to point out that it is pretty funny you repeatedly misspelled "yours" in the posts you were putting down that user for not being as academically or professionally accomplished. (I get that you were dismissing him based on his own logic--and I agree with the point you're making--but still, funny)
"high-profile Americans"
That still doesn't mean being harmed is legitimate. It's concern-trolling, because you're talking about some of the most famous people in America at China. Their status alone is what will protect them given that anything happening to them will immediately result in the US Government being on their ass (keep in mind, they already have an icy relationship as it is with the tariffs and trade wars). Like I said, China lacks in human rights, but they will not start a war over athletes + GMs + NBA staff.
That's typically only something happens with coaches.
Athletes themselves will tell you to not see them as heroes or role models.
"How do you even know Hong Kong exists if you haven't been there and seen it yourself?"
Lo siento--Grammarly extension is blocked on my work laptop and it would have caught that lol
Funny that he said this in Jan 2018. He could really use his own advice.
Goddamn, that aged horribly.
Goddamn, that aged horribly.
To be fair, he was #thanking MLK...not saying that he'd do the same thing.
You new to NBA Era threads? Lol man has a defense force like no other
👏🏽👏🏽 Yup
Although it's not the stance I hoped he would take, I think we can understand a professional athlete wanting to stay neutral on the situation and not try to rock the boat so to speak. I don't think the responsibility should fall on him or other NBA players. There are ways Lebron could have stated it better and he shouldn't have been as dismissive of Morey's tweet, but I respect that he commented anything at all rather than just resorting to "no comment" in this situation.
I don't understand the people on Twitter defending this and saying it's because he was worried about his safety there. What the fuck is china gonna do to Lebron James? They can get away with putting a million Uighur Muslims in extermination camps sure, but if they touched Lebron James or any US citizens they'd immediately lose all international legitimacy. It would fuck them beyond reproach I'm so many ways. the worst that would happen is they'd probably have immediately kicked all the nba players out of the country.
Wonder how MLK would feel about Muslims being forced to renounce their religion, or be tortured to death in Nazi-esque concentration camps, or China's response to basic human rights in Hong Kong. Can't imagine it'd be that much different than championing for civil rights for black people in the 1950s (ESPECIALLY when we know MLK was against the Vietnam war too).
"Thanks for your sacrifices, dude. I'm really taking all this to the bank."
Except he's trying to garner sympathy, saying that he and the league have had a "difficult" week.
He needs to check his damn privilege. He's worth mid 9 figures playing a kid's game. He's not having a difficult week.
MLK wouldn't be doing business in China. LeBron speaking out against China would ruin his Nike deal for example.
That's the price you pay for doing business with that country.
Could you imagine someone asking him to wait another week for a protest so they can be out of town when it happens?
"great speech. I had a #dream too."
To be fair Kanter hasn't suffered like Lebron and his difficult week...
I can understand what he's saying. It really felt like Morey was just firing off random tweets without thinking about the bigger picture of players in a country and putting them in spots. If he wants to put himself out there fine so be it, but now you are forcing players to address issues that they may not feel comfortable with.
If I'm going on a talk show to talk about idk the Joker and I have Todd Philips our there saying shooting from the hip, I'm going to be annoyed that I have to pivot and address things I don't want to whether they are good or bad.
If I'm going on a talk show to talk about idk the Joker and I have Todd Philips our there saying shooting from the hip, I'm going to be annoyed that I have to pivot and address things I don't want to whether they are good or bad.
I want to see more fans in NBA arenas this year with signage in support of Hong Kong. Keep doing it until the NBA is sick of kicking out those fans
It's probably up to each arena and I doubt they would get sick of it as long as they get money.
I wanna see the same, but I'm afraid that if it starts happening often enough that they will just start taking peoples signs away at the door before they let them in.
In hindsight I'd have preferred the "no comment".
I thought the worst he could possibly say was that he personally have no stakes in this and doesn't want to get involved, he wants to focus on other issues and do good there. I can sympathize with that.
But no, he just have to criticize what started all this mess in the first place. Taking a page out of his book just the ramifications of his response here and not the substance is already making the optics look like : Morey is all to blame, criticizing China is a not allowed, you can't rock the boat etc etc.