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Koichi Sugiyama, composer of Dragon Quest, has passed away (SEE STAFF POST)
- Thread starter Hayama Akito
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As an LGBTQ+ person who, in their youth, almost took their own life, this post speaks to me. I can't have respect or appreciation for a man who laughed at LGBTQ+ folks like me, just because that man made some good video game music.
Especially for someone who lived to be 90 years old, while many LGBTQ+ folks are often murdered or die much younger. Why should I respect that?
Great post. I'm actually get really nostalgic for the DQ1 soundtrack. Endless World and Tantegel were just really fun catchy NES tunes that I nearly cried hearing the orchestra versions.
I agree with this. There's a couple of tracks here and there that stand out, sure, but DQ music has been stale for a LOOONG time and I'm almost certain he had some kind of rule that DQ music isn't allowed to even SOUND orchestral so I hope games are allowed to sound better now especially if Hayato Matsuo IS the one to succeed him.
Woah I didn't realise he was that big.
I knew people were fans of dragon quests music but I wasn't aware of this guys awful history.
it's really hard to make decisions on what to do in gaming when they are such huge endeavours. I am not supporting activision blizzard because of what they've done. I can easily say I won't support dragon quest (but I don't play it anyway). But I guess I haven't really been put to the test as much with a series I love vs actions I find reprehensible.
this man seems like he was truely reprehensible. Good riddance.
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my new favorite post on the Citadel. God damn.
Finally Dragon Quest can get the love it needs. The melodies he made were amazing. But his personality was shit.
I'd like to see some of the reactions from people in the industry in Japan. I don't expect any of them to do anything other than praise the deceased, but would be interesting to see who won't mention him at all.
Right now I'm mostly curious about Yuki Horii's statement, as he seems to be a pretty decent guy and has written some cool stuff in regards to LGBTQ characters.
Right now I'm mostly curious about Yuki Horii's statement, as he seems to be a pretty decent guy and has written some cool stuff in regards to LGBTQ characters.
Let he who is without a paid editorial in the Washington Post cast the first stone.
you forgot the row when you point out your awesome Panzer Dragoon Zwei Avatar compared to his shitty pokemon one
My Japanese isn't great, but seems pretty bog standard "he'll live on through the music in the games."
Edited to add my own opinion: Seriously, the world is a little less hateful without him in it.
He may have created some of the most iconic game music of my early days of being into gaming...but his beliefs and actions were garbage, and I will be very excited to see what the DQ series does with its music going forward.
Sakurai already tweeted earlier:
He said he's praying for Sugiyama's soul, which makes sense given that old fucker is burning in hell right about now.
Very, very different posts, but both beautiful. In general, aside from the handful of folks concern trolling (good riddance tho), this thread has been a great read.
It's pretty incredible thinking about Sugiyama's legacy in the realm of video game music, and a lot of his work will probably always be special to me. My more recent experiences with him, though, have all been pretty bad: playing DQXI and discovering what it feels like to absolutely love a JRPG whilst finding the music mindbogglingly terrible, and more importantly, finding out what a horrible, horrible person he is.
No doubt the world is a better place with his passing. This is one that's been a long time coming.
You have no idea how much privilege you have, if your reaction to this bigoted war crime denying piece of shit is tone policing minorities and going "celebrating death bad, therefore you're just as bad!"
reminds me of when I as an Arab was attacked and tone policed on the internet after the great war hero John McCain passed away, and I wanted to piss on his grave.
Fuck Sugiyama, and if your doing any of the above, fuck you.
reminds me of when I as an Arab was attacked and tone policed on the internet after the great war hero John McCain passed away, and I wanted to piss on his grave.
Fuck Sugiyama, and if your doing any of the above, fuck you.
Legitimately bizarre that you would imply anyone here should compare their loved ones to this disgusting waste of air and think that's somehow going to make us more empathetic to him. It just makes you seem utterly clueless. My mom died when I was in my twenties. This does not make me care about this horrible dead man. They're not even remotely comparable. She was a good person, which is why nobody celebrated her passing. If she had spent a lifetime denying war crimes and financially investing in making the lives of other people miserable, I probably would have very different feelings about her than I did. It's almost like people exist as fully realized human beings, not just props to check a box of "must sad because dead now." Not every life is the same. Some people are worth mourning and some simply are not.
Presuming that people should feel the same way about a man who would laughed at the idea of people like us dying as we do our own loved ones isn't only childish, it's ghoulishly lacking in the empathy you pretend to be so concerned with.
I don't play much Dragon Quest (though I wanna get the HD-2D one!), but I appreciate the music Sugiyama's made for the series.
Not gonna celebrate his death, but given his bigotry, good riddance. There are plenty of hyper-talented composers out there that don't actively dehumanize people. Feeling relief is completely warranted.
Not gonna celebrate his death, but given his bigotry, good riddance. There are plenty of hyper-talented composers out there that don't actively dehumanize people. Feeling relief is completely warranted.
Loved the DQ music, the man himself was typical conversative old Japanese man in his views. Hope his replacement is more sensible.
I'm sure losing a grandpa sucks regardless, so my condolences to his family.
Thanks for making the games fun to hum along to while grinding.
I'm sure losing a grandpa sucks regardless, so my condolences to his family.
Thanks for making the games fun to hum along to while grinding.
Ehhhh
It's eyebrow-raising maybe, but bot everyone is aware of how shitty he is and OP is scant on details, maybe some are trolling but some could just be unaware, not point in fussing over those posts honestly
Yeah those posters are almost more of a red flag to me than those going OMG STOP SPEAKING ILL OF THE DEAD. Almost.
On the other hand, I've lost queer friends of mine to suicide. Sugiyama can go fuck himself.
Do people going on about now buying DQ music and stuff not think that part of his earnings in the future from those things will go towards helping to fund historical revisionism and ultranationalism? Guys like him don't just stop infecting the world when they die.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has agreements as part of his will about using his money for pushing his ideology beyond the grave.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has agreements as part of his will about using his money for pushing his ideology beyond the grave.
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Don't mean to add to your notifications blowing up, but fuck me, this is incredible.
You can't deny how shitty of a person he is regardless how much of an influence they have
Ono see him for his work
Ono see him for his work
So long to an absolutely horrible person but a legendary composer. May his family have solace in their time of mourning.
There's that, but also the Japanese right wing has a lot of trolls that would undoubtedly pounce on any prominent Japanese people that dared say anything negative about him.
RIP. Gotta say growing up I loved his music. It just fit the world of Dragon Quest and I will always have fond memories from my childhood associated with his music. Didn't realize what a POS he was until a few years ago and I am excited for Dragon Quest to move forward with a new sound.