She had no more information than you did at that point. They can form a strategy now instead of blindly promising to move forward with impeachment when they have zero power to do so.
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Justice Department releases redacted Mueller report (See Threadmarks for Summaries)
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She had no more information than you did at that point. They can form a strategy now instead of blindly promising to move forward with impeachment when they have zero power to do so.
What, are you telling me Mueller isn't the big muscular sexy Trump-fighting #resistance hero all the late-night talk shows told me he was?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QW36Z3F/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1555605006&refinements=p_4:The+Redacted+Mueller+Report&s=apparel&sr=1-1
lol...
At the time, she didn't know what was in the report either. She'd be a Republican sound bite now if the report didn't produce.
They should have started long ago, rather than waiting for the "smoking gun" from this report. There's been ample material. The Dems are way too timid. For instance it's now April and they've finally put in a legal request for his taxes, which if it were the GOP taking the House they'd have done in 15 minutes.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/
EDIT: On second thought, this isn't worth it. Just utilize the ignore feature. Leaving the post up with this edit is unnecessarily petty.
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Refresh my memory ERA, Bill got 'impeached' for lying about his relations with Monica right? And republicans wanted to depose Obama for eating dijon mustard...
The DOJ has believed that you can't indict a President for a long time now. It's not surprising that they punted, many were expecting that.
Dems need to start learning to play hardball like the GOP is true, but also remember another big factor in the GOP's dominance is they know how to strategically attack winnable issues, and impeachment is not remotely a winnable issue.
Swalwell is also running for president. Not that I believe Barr is acting in good faith here, but Swalwell is just beating people to the punch for points, IMO.
Fucking REDDIT
R/the_donald
"The Russian troll farm IRA recruited moderators of conservative social media groups to promote IRA generated content"
"It also recruited individuals to perform political acts (such as walking around NYC dressed up as Santa Clause with a Trump mask)
R/the_donald
"The Russian troll farm IRA recruited moderators of conservative social media groups to promote IRA generated content"
"It also recruited individuals to perform political acts (such as walking around NYC dressed up as Santa Clause with a Trump mask)
But you forgot about the part where rules don't apply to Republicans
the "R" is pretty much a pass for anything. I mean if eva
incompetent people working for an incompetent administration
not surprising
And how exactly would we do that? With what votes? With what evidence?
Trump being a reprehensible sack of human garbage SHOULD be enough to get rid of him, but in reality it's just not that easy.
That thing about being able to see redactions sounds like extreme bullshit. The PDF is obviously based on a scanned version of a hard copy (no text highlighting, and you can see the ink patterns in the redactions), so unless it's just a different file also being publicly hosted, it's not gonna be true.
Thought Trump was on his way out lol.
You guys can hype yourselves up over all this, but I really think Dems took the L
Yep. The question is if Pelosi changes her stance. I hope she does
Not what you said initially, nor what I asked. SMH. Ridiculous.
my whole point wasn't saying dems are attacking trump.
I WAS STATING THEY NEED TO USE THIS INFO ON THE CAMPAIGN RATHER THAN GO AFTER IMPEACHMENT LIKE SOME OF YOU WERE SUGGESTION
They absolutely should be. They offer zero to the conversation at hand and anyone posting THAT clearly has not read a single line of the report.
Also, if it was able to be "unredacted", then it already would've been done by the news organizations. You think they'd want to sit on that?
User Banned (1 Day): Antagonizing other members over a series of posts
thanks! I try my best
Basically: Trump and Co. did a bunch of heinous shit, but so many people around him told so many lies that the SC eventually just threw their hands up and said, "I don't fucking know if there are crimes here or not."
The takeaway being that if you're President, you can basically just lie and obstruct your way out of any SC investigation, and so long as your party controls at least one chamber of Congress, you can go ahead and commit as many crimes as you like.
So...
-Trump attempted 9 Obstructions; but was stopped by his own aides refusals to carry out his orders; some of those aides were forced to resign as a result or resigned out of fear of being implicated elsewhere by a Trump action
-Trump successfully acted out 1 clear Obstruction (firing Comey)
-Although AG Barr refuses to, the report suggests Congress could further investigate and prosecute Trump on obstruction, based on the intent and action listed above
-Trump Jr. was not prosecuted for conspiracy with the TT meeting because it was assumed he was too stupid to understand what he had helped arrange
-The Trump campaign was expecting Russia's meddling to assist with their election efforts, although not directly coordinating those meddling efforts
-However, efforts through WikiLeaks and discussions with Roger Stone may constituent dissemenation of stolen property, aka, DNC hacks and emails
-Mueller says he can not rule out obstruction and suggested new focused FBI investigstions could reveal further evidence and crimes
How the hell is this neither collusion nor obstruction? This is the exact opposite of Barr's summary.
-Trump attempted 9 Obstructions; but was stopped by his own aides refusals to carry out his orders; some of those aides were forced to resign as a result or resigned out of fear of being implicated elsewhere by a Trump action
-Trump successfully acted out 1 clear Obstruction (firing Comey)
-Although AG Barr refuses to, the report suggests Congress could further investigate and prosecute Trump on obstruction, based on the intent and action listed above
-Trump Jr. was not prosecuted for conspiracy with the TT meeting because it was assumed he was too stupid to understand what he had helped arrange
-The Trump campaign was expecting Russia's meddling to assist with their election efforts, although not directly coordinating those meddling efforts
-However, efforts through WikiLeaks and discussions with Roger Stone may constituent dissemenation of stolen property, aka, DNC hacks and emails
-Mueller says he can not rule out obstruction and suggested new focused FBI investigstions could reveal further evidence and crimes
How the hell is this neither collusion nor obstruction? This is the exact opposite of Barr's summary.
The strategy of releasing the Barr "summary" and then the report letter appears to have the opposite of the intended effect.
Im not saying it's nothing, but seriously do you really think the status quo wont be back to normal in a few months?
"My view on what's right and feeling as though it has been met is more important than the safety of others. Also, putting you on ignore."
I mean, it can also be a clever way to leak the document "ooooops My mistake, Im new to this"
Cockroaches crawling out of the woodwork like they always do just to show us their ass and think they are clever.
The investigation being a waste of time is pretty severely missing the point so I elaborated on my initial point on why betting it all on one FBI report instead of trying to get actual policy passed is a waste of time. Hope this clarifies
Has anyone posted this? Seems like they believed there was enough evidence to charge Trump on up to 10 counts of obstruction of Justice, but decided to refer it to Congress: