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Just beat Persona 5 Royale, there is no way in hell Atlus can get away for charging $60 for shit like this again.
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No, we hate (JP)Atlus' scummy business practices.
At this point I want to say Atlus USA does try to do damage control with old DLC being free, 4 new languages and a partly rewritten script. I wish they had more power, they obviously listen much more to the fans.
I don't think you can include GaaS games for comparison, those games rely on continued spending through microtransactions.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Breath of the Wild for example lol
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Jesus, the amount of straight up insults thrown here is just awful. Some of you need to grow up.
As for the topic, I'm not necessarily sure it could've been made as a DLC per se, but yeah, they should've definitely offered an upgrade route for the owners of the original game at the very least. As always: Fuck Atlus.
As for the topic, I'm not necessarily sure it could've been made as a DLC per se, but yeah, they should've definitely offered an upgrade route for the owners of the original game at the very least. As always: Fuck Atlus.
They updated the existing code though, we've also had pro patches before. Could easily have been DLC.
Not an excuse when its the same damn eShop account used to purchase both games. I'm not asking for free copy, but don't charge me $60 again for an original $50 game.
I will never get the folks that comment things like "it's a business" as if
A.) People don't understand that
and
B.) Businesses don't constantly do grody shit all the time.
"It's capitalism, duh!" does not justify or excuse anything.
A.) People don't understand that
and
B.) Businesses don't constantly do grody shit all the time.
"It's capitalism, duh!" does not justify or excuse anything.
Catherine Full Body was $30 on PSN in 2 months soooo....
Atlus puts their games on sale pretty fast.
You can totally say this about ports from Wii U, though. Also, Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.
We literally have people in the thread saying they will automatically buy an atlus game no matter the price. What else would you call it?
The only winning move is to not play the game in 2017 and wait till 2020 before you play it for the first time
Which is what I'm doing
Playing most games day 1 gets you the worst experience of the game possible
That said, I agree this is lame, but it will keep happening as long as people double dip
It works, so why would they change course?
Which is what I'm doing
Playing most games day 1 gets you the worst experience of the game possible
That said, I agree this is lame, but it will keep happening as long as people double dip
It works, so why would they change course?
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I'm constantly shitting on Nintendo about anything dumb they do, whenever possible
This is what I've been reading from friends who got it. Said the beginning is full of changes.
The way this thread is written feels like there are no changes whatsoever. Are the changes not big enough for the OP?
I think the business model is a valid discussion, but I don't think it needs hyperbole. The argument holds. At the very least, make it full price for new customers, and give a discount to the ones who have the original.
Persona 5 Royal adds as much content as the Golden City of Torna so I really don't see the point. Torna was even its own release if you wanted a physical copy. I don't get you saying the added content is only 45-60 minutes which is just not true.
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Rightly so. Do we know how Tokyo Mirage Sessions did on Switch yet? You always seem like the one to ask these sorts of things. :P
People are free to put whatever value they want to place on something. Doesn't give you the right to insult others.
Currently 32,99€ and was 40€ on release. I can now get Persona 5 Royal for 45€ so... uhm?
I don't know how hard it is to program and integrate this stuff into base game, but new DLC characters are part of the story right from the beginning. You start making bonds with them right off the bat.
I don't plan on picking it up because I had already beat the original and am chipping away at the Plat (and I'd rather get RE3/FF7), but I had been giving it the benefit of the doubt until people's reactions to the slim, new content. Disappointing really. I'll probably pick it up for $20 in a couple years.
They do, but it's mostly agreed in those same pieces that this is a very high-quality product, with enough content (new and old) to justify the asking price.
TMS from WiiU to the expanded edition on Switch, like SMT SJ on 3DS, is another example of Atlus adding new characters and a dungeon and calling it full price, but as pointed out above it's a different platform.
TMS sold so badly on WIIU, I don't blame anyone for re-releasing WiiU games with minimal changes on the Switch as the vast majority of players won't have touched the previous version. It does feel different to a flagship PS4 game re-released on the same system.
Ultimately Atlus's re-release formula is the same across several of their games this gen, but it seems particularly cynical with P5 compared to re-releasing for a new audience across Nintendo's systems.
While that is true, all the QoL updates are still free. I don't think anyone is saying that Atlus should not charge for new content that obviously costs money to develop. But the argument here is that it is somehow technically impossible for them to rework the game as DLC or a patch, when many other companies manage to do so.
Seems like OP skipped everything, except palaces. And even then they probably played on the Safe difficulty and skipped boss fights without noticing changes.
In Japan, it performed worse than the original Wii U version of the game. At least in the UK, it performed slightly better than the original. Overall, probably about the same as the original TMS, so poorly.
Citing online GaaS that failed, really badly, commercially and critically, as your examples, is utter nonsense.
I'm so surprised it sold so well outside Japan when the top review on Amazon JP gave it 1 star and told exactly the same things OP did. And here I'm seeing people who already played the original playing Royal.
I finally picked up the original on a PSN Sale and don't think it would differ much from Royal since I guess it at least got a few patches compared to on release.
Is the Pro patch good?
So ATLUS got away with getting a new trophy list - the real reason people replay it?
I finally picked up the original on a PSN Sale and don't think it would differ much from Royal since I guess it at least got a few patches compared to on release.
Is the Pro patch good?
So ATLUS got away with getting a new trophy list - the real reason people replay it?
The original game doesn't have a pro patch.
And Royal differs heavily from the original and I honestly cannot go back to the original, just due to the giant, giant combat changes that make the game feel and flow so much better (and that's just one small aspect of the changes to the game).
The Division 2 and even Destiny 2 dropped large QoL and system revision updates for free. This is not some uncommon thing.
This is my takeaway as well. There is no credibility in anybody that dismisses or downplays what has been changed in this game as merely a new chapter and some QoL. They clearly skipped everything assuming nothing else changed and didn't bother to actually explore all the new changes and experience anything that was altered.
What patches, it got nothing but paid dlc, which is all included free with Royal. You're being mislead on what is in P5R vs vanilla.
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You're not denying it mate. You just got called a scrub. Gotta defend your weeb honour.
Not really. There's battle music packs that let you change the music to P1-4 tracks, but they were free for the first month. There's no DLC other than that, which is shocking considering it's from Atlus and Koei Tecmo.
No it doesn't so far and I think it won't get any except for some music tracks. Complete package etc. but could be that they add Kasumi for DLC.
Scramble is what OP would have rather would like to play. It's Persona 5-2 and a sequel.
Get Royal - the QoL improvements and the added content are great. The extra stuff is especially good if you like SMT and is the best content they did those past 10 years or even more imo.
Are you competing in a hyperbole competition or something?
Such a disingenuous thread.
A hundred times, Royal over vanilla. There is no reason to play the base game.
Divinity Original Sin 1&2 are not GAAS
Xenoblade 2 had qol improvements for free separate from the paid dlc
Yu Gi Oh Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution got one free update that updated the game to the newest master rule, added 1,000 cards, and added another 25ish story duels.
I will say this, Atlus probably could have gotten less flak for charging $60 for Royal had it been a switch exclusive enhanced port the way 3p and 4g were. Charging $60 on the same console only a few years removed is a lot harder to swallow.
Well, that's disingenuous. The whole XC2 expansion pass cost $30 at release. You are talking about the optional physical version.
P5R cost $60 at release digitally and physically.