-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Jussie Smollett Breaks His Silence After Vicious Attack: 'I'm OK'
- Thread starter Saya
- Start date
- Status
This is always used as an attack on this forum. What is wrong with asking questions???
It's his disingenuous way of assuming I don't care about/believe Jussie
None of us know what happened; however, in light of the way the story developed (20/20 hindsight and all), banning skeptics may have been unproductive.
Last edited:
The frequency in which it comes up in this forum just leads me to believe a group of posters are paranoid that secretly everyone is alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice.
did we just witness a 'just asking questions' about just asking questions?
Secretly everyone? Get the fuck out. They are concerned that there are posters on this forum that exhibit similar right or right leaning views and calling that paranoia is basically gaslighting.
is it more or less paranoid than the view you hold of the moderation here?
Considering how many other posters referred to the moderation in this topic, I wouldn't say that is me being paranoid.
This is exactly what I mean when it is used as an attack. What are you insinuating exactly?
that you were "led to believe" that some people secretly think everyone are alt-right/white supremacist/negative ideology of choice here. and that you're seeking clarification, what's wrong with that?
I do believe there are posters who are like that here, yes. The "just asking questions" line is so weird to me, insinuating they are intentionally being devious in order to put forth a conservative viewpoint or whatever. Sometimes, people are just asking questions lol. Anyway this is getting off topic so that's all I'm going to say about it.
So it should be cool for some of you to doubt Jussie's story but when I express doubt about some of you, it's off base.
Funny how that shakes out.
Funny how that shakes out.
User Banned (3 weeks): Inflammatory generalisation of Era members, hostility towards staff, account in junior phase.
This thread is fucking weird.
Something close to the truth will eventually come out, what's the rush?
One group seems to actually want someone to be the victim of a hate crime just to reinforce their "choice" to be a voice on the frontlines of our national conversation: the all-volunteer nintendo message board. Another is hoping to do that thing where they can say, "I knew this was shady, check my posts," but no one gives a shit. The mods are (rightfully) getting dunked on left and right for being controlling, obtuse weirdos, and I bet entremet has his hooks in somehow. Won't presume to speak for anyone else, but this isn't what I had in mind. The pettiness.
Something close to the truth will eventually come out, what's the rush?
One group seems to actually want someone to be the victim of a hate crime just to reinforce their "choice" to be a voice on the frontlines of our national conversation: the all-volunteer nintendo message board. Another is hoping to do that thing where they can say, "I knew this was shady, check my posts," but no one gives a shit. The mods are (rightfully) getting dunked on left and right for being controlling, obtuse weirdos, and I bet entremet has his hooks in somehow. Won't presume to speak for anyone else, but this isn't what I had in mind. The pettiness.
Jussie says he was attacked at around 2:00 am by the two men in ski masks. Sometime during this period, Jussie spoke with his manager about the attack. At 2:30 am the police were called and police arrived at 2:40 am to talk to Jussie. The footage police are investigating was taken at around 1:30-1:45 am.
It's just an easy way to dismiss people's opinions without addressing the actual questions.
Pretty much this.
Coming in hard on doubtinga persons story always feels like they have an agenda and if calling a black dude talking about racism a liar is your hill to die on i think you need to be okay with getting some side eye from everyone else. THis story is awful if it goes either way and black people will be the victims both ways, its a shit sandwich and im sad my city has to deal with both outcomes.
Correct, and this is a problem I think needs to be talked about more around here. I was banned for two weeks for simply explaining why I had doubts about this story from the very beginning. Several posters labeled me a racist who didn't want to see this gay black man as the victim he was.
No one throwing those unsubstantiated character assassination bombs at me was banned for doing so. As a person who sees every human as equal to another human, being accused of those things sucks. How does one even respond to accusations like that?
There is a reason there has been so much noise over this particular story possibly being fake, and while I fully acknowledge some of that noise is coming from Trump loons angry that this story had a MAGA reference attached to it, a great deal of the skepticism has come from people like me who have no ulterior motive behind their questions.
My two week ban is inconsequential in the big picture here, but what truly bothers me is the feeling that genuine curiosity or skepticism is being shut down if the topic of discussion is somehow deemed to be off limits. This isn't my forum, and I know I don't make the rules, but I really hope we eventually have a bigger discussion about how to better handle situations that might initiate some skepticism.
Last edited:
Sometimes it has nothing to do with doubting a person because they are black or gay or anything else. I have no doubt there are tons of asshats in this country that would be happy to beat him for being black or gay. This story just always seemed really weird with the particular details. The timeline just never felt right.
I've only been loosely following this (basically just catching up with whatever they're saying on Good Morning America), but why is there suspicion that this was made up? It is highly unlikely that someone -- especially someone this high-profile -- would make something like this up.
There's suspicion now because it was reported that the attackers were white, shouted MAGA related statements, and randomly attacked Jussie. But now it appears the attackers are actually black, targeted Jussie specifically and then immediately flew out of the country. It's hard to target someone if you have no idea where/when they're going to be, but somehow these guys came upon him at 2:00am while he was on a spur of the moment trip to Subway. Regardless, we'll know more either way this evening when the police arrest the two men in question or release them. It's pointless to speculate until then given all the shit the media has gotten wrong from the start.
I find it harder to believe he was beaten up by the cartoon-like characters he originally described. People like that pretty much don't exist in 2019. You will only believe this to be the case if you spend too much time living on the internet.
So what is more probable? That he lying about this, or even totally made it up? Or that the kind of boogiemen that intersectional twitter always rails against were in an upscale Chicago neighborhood carrying a noose and bleach while he came home from a midnight snack?
I at first thought he was beat up probably because something happened at a night club, or because drugs or money owed or something. Now I lean toward this being completely staged for some reason. However, I still would not be surprised if the two peoples arrested acted independently and this was over a personal matter.
A man went into a pizza shop and almost shot it up because the internet told them they were trafficking children.
saying it's far fetched is just ignoring all of the examples racist white people give this country every day
From two nights ago:
That cartoon character being held back amidst all those other cartoon characters was attacking a cameraman because Trump just told him that the press are evil.
User Banned (Permanent): Denying the existence of racism
This has nothing to do with race. Yes, there are crazy gullible people. You also ignore that this sort of racism is incredibly rare now. America does not really have these sort of lynchings any longer.
Had somebody throw something at him from a car or called him a slur, I would believe it. But you seem to fear that there are white people searching for non-white peoples to physically harm every hour of every day in ever place in America. Some people like this doubtlessly exist. They do not exist in numbers great enough to worry about.
Mob violence is an entirely different psychological phenomenon.From two nights ago:
That cartoon character being held back amidst all those other cartoon characters was attacking a cameraman because Trump just told him that the press are evil.
Even if a situation feels fishy, and your first thought to a vitcim of some kind of assualt is "is dont think this is true" what do you get by just been an outward asshole to victims, other than some kind of vindication later.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...oose-around-black-classmates-neck/1385338002/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/27/us/portland-train-attack-muslim-rant.html
Yikes you dont know shit.
Okay, so even after a hoax got revealed, instead of deciding to just wait for the investigation to finish we have people in here going as far as to try and erase the concept of targeted abuse of minorities.
The thing you are describing as being incredibly rare in 2019 is mob violence. And since you brought up lynchings:
like, shit man, what the hell do you think lynch mobs were? Those not qualify as mob violence?
So these persons of interest could be two Nigerian brothers that worked on set with Smollet? What a bunch of idiots if it's them.
- Status