the fuck?
Biden says he’d leave US embassy in Jerusalem if elected
Joe Biden says embassy ‘should not have been moved’, but now that it’s done, he would not move it back to Tel Aviv.
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Joe Biden says he'll keep US embassy in Jerusalem if elected president
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the fuck?
Expected.
It's back to the status quo. Which means Palestinians continue being treated like trash.
It's back to the status quo. Which means Palestinians continue being treated like trash.
Eh. Was always going to be a longshot thing to address once it was moved in the first place. There is a near limitless list of more pressing things to address in the US.
Unfortunate that we chose not to stop that possibility in 2016 when we had the chance. Live and learn I guess.
Unfortunate that we chose not to stop that possibility in 2016 when we had the chance. Live and learn I guess.
it owns that liberals like biden can just let trump take the hit for something they've secretly wanted to do for decades
something the palestinian people famously get to do
How about at least threatening to move it back to get Israel to take the Middle East peace process at least remotely seriously?
An attempt is not even being made!
If you just move it on the whims of the next President, you wouldn't have any leverage anymore at all. So his reasoning makes sense if you consider that he's had a long history of wanting the move to happen anyway.
It's not surprising, he's made repeated statements in the past supporting the Israeli regime's campaign against the Palestinians.
Already turning out to be a shitty future president. Really wish we had better options than alleged rapists.
I don't think it's even optional. It was required by law to move to Jerusalem absent the President making an annual argument that it was against US interests. Now that Trump declined to make that exception, can it be moved back without a new law? This is Biden's point in the OP. You can't put the genie back in the bottle
btw, Bernie Sanders voted for that law so it isn't like the competition was any better
btw, Bernie Sanders voted for that law so it isn't like the competition was any better
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Precisely. All the gross ass illegal and horrible shit America does will keep happening, and the pathetic spineless and amoral liberal shitbags will excuse or handwave it away. Case in point:
I'm not sure i follow. Even if he did want the move to happen, by not threatening to move it, he has basically given up any leverage he would have. "Keep doing what you're doing or else..."? is a weird strategy.
Well, welcome to the rest of the world too. Because plenty of countries just sit around and take it just as well.
Understandable. Moving it so soon after it was just moved would cost a ton of money that would be better spent elsewhere and would likely make it harder for US diplomats to do their job. Reopening the East Jersualem consulate is a good step to getting Palestine back on board. It's also a weird legal situation since it was technically an act of Congress, delayed 20 years, that moved the embassy, which could inhibit his ability to just move it again. It's a shitty situation but that's just one of the countless fires we'll have to put out once Trump is gone
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downplaying literal genocide
even if Biden weren't personally an Israel toady, which he very much is, moving it back is all political downside and would thus require political courage, which he very much lacks.
It's worse than that. It demonstrates all you have to do is get concessions from Republicans when they're in office safe in the knowledge the subsequent Democrat won't do anything about it.
Why bother negotiating with a Democrat? Wait for a Republican to give away the shop!
Not reality. Just a statement on reality. I'd love for a country - any country to put the US in it's place for once. I'd love for this to be a massive campaign issue that would get the people going. But it just isn't.
That would be my take. It's one thing to delay it being moved where it was supposed to be by law, but another to deliberately, and unilaterally, reverse the process after it's been completed.
I'm not a lawyer though, and have no idea if that figures into Biden's reasoning. If he can legally move it back, then he should.
it'll never cease to disgust me that the natural reaction at shit that helps perpetuate a genocidal ethnostate is just apathetic shrugs; that's how far gone the situation is
What the hell is even that sentence?
Money? The US government burns millions of dollars every day on dumb shit. Cost is the LAST excuse one should bring up on this issue.
He said it himself, nothing will change.
I fully expect we'll be 3 years into his presidency and there's still kids in cages while the galaxy brained liberals keep telling you it's not so simple why the Democrats have done nothing to fix things.
Useless party.
the fuck?
Biden says he’d leave US embassy in Jerusalem if elected
Joe Biden says embassy ‘should not have been moved’, but now that it’s done, he would not move it back to Tel Aviv.www.aljazeera.com
That's the evangelical vote he's looking at.
it's not just him that's a dinosaur, too. dems have been playing nice with bibi and israel in general for awhile
just look at how they treat ilhan omar and rashida tlaib over these issues, immensely fucked up.
The sentence is that this is basically par for the course. The US isn't alone. Plenty of other counties enable it too and do nothing. Didn't think that was that difficult to understand.
If it makes you feel any better, this is one of the issues I care most about and one of the reasons I donated to, and volunteered for Bernie's campaign. I'm the furthest from apathetic, but also if I were surprised that liberals would support ethnic cleansing you'd rightly be able to tell me that I haven't been paying attention.
Except the article doesn't say that. The article quoted him as saying this:
To me that says even if he does have the power he wouldn't move it back.
Well really I was downplaying a movement of an embassy given it was already done and therefore was unlikely to be changed. I'm aware of Isreal's shit. So are a lot of other people. But unfortunately nobody wants to do anything about it to any real effect. That's not really downplaying genocide. That's just stating an observation.
What's your solution?
hell yeah, good stuff
Sanders says may relocate US embassy back to Tel Aviv if elected
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders condemned Donald Trump’s decision to move US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem in 2018.
and from today
At least own it and don't try to backtrack less than half a page later, that's even more pathetic.