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JJ Abrams closes Warner Media deal and leaves Paramount
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So all of a sudden Trek reboot is bad? Get the fuck out of here.
They should hand Bad Robot all the Comic Stuff so maybe we can have a golden age of fun comic movies from both Marvel and DC. Then I could truly be happy.
They should hand Bad Robot all the Comic Stuff so maybe we can have a golden age of fun comic movies from both Marvel and DC. Then I could truly be happy.
While I do think Into Darkness is Abrams worst movie, it still contains the best sequence in the trilogy, I really got show you guys an actual bad movie sometime, instead of getting the usual disappointing entry in my fav IP hyperbole.
I have no idea what sequence you're even referring to because every part of the film is terrible. It's not only a bad Star Trek movie and a bad movie in general, but also a fundamentally offensive movie due to being a thinly-veiled 9/11 conspiracy film. I don't normally do the hyperbole thing about movies but Into Darkness is one where I genuinely think it's shit.
'09 was fine actually. Legitimately enjoyable movie.
Into Darkness was embarrassing though.
I mean saying it wasn't Khan? Honestly.
Also just in general the movie had a lot of contrived bullshit and the other secondary villain's motivation made practically no sense.
What would've changed if he said it was Khan outside of more complaining on our spoiler sensitive internet.
Enterprise getting shot up mid warp. Look me in the eye and tell me that's terrible.
That's barely a "sequence," that's like a five second shot. The Enterprise getting blown the fuck up in Beyond is way better (and Beyond in general is a great film).
Just would have rather he said nothing about it. I mean on it's own the reveal was hilariously pointless and pratically assumes you know who that character is and what importance he holds in the previous Star Trek. But that fact that he lied so you were led to believe that wouldn't happen so that reveal would still "shock" you is dishonest. It's cheap subversion by literally treating your audience like they're morons.
Yup. JJ loves to bullshit his audience so they won't see his utterly generic, massively predictable "twists" coming and it's driven me insane for years.
He did a couple drafts back in the early 2000s
We got Justin back doing Fast movies and y'all can't have him back.
A dumpster fire that was pissed on to put it out only for the fire to resist the piss and explode in a shower of flames and red hot piss.
Give me all the mystery boxes, all of them. And this is most likely for new content outside of DC. But Warner will definitely push him towards at least a few DC projects
oh you better believe he'll be on DC
this man saved star wars en route to $2 billion at the box office. about to crank out another that'll probably make $1.5b at least.
he'll do Superman if I had to guess. quasi remake of the 1978 movie, complete with Williams on the score. fuck it.
this man saved star wars en route to $2 billion at the box office. about to crank out another that'll probably make $1.5b at least.
he'll do Superman if I had to guess. quasi remake of the 1978 movie, complete with Williams on the score. fuck it.
Every time Superman uses his laser eyes, the ensuing lens flare would blot out the sun
Superman isn't even high on Warner radar right now, the more immediate thing right now is setting up new content for the film/television division(especially the streaming service).
You'd think nailing Superman would lead to a massively profitable and beloved DC Cinematic Universe
which would then in turn allow them to shit out like 10 highly anticipated shows that take place in said universe on their streaming service ala Marvel
I mean, they're doing fine without Superman lol. Aquaman's a billion dollar( with Wonder Woman most likely about the join the club), and Jokers gonna do crazy numbers. A "it's all connected" Cinematic Universe is in the past for them at this point.
well as much as i enjoyed st09 and beyond now that viacom remerged themselves with cbs there really no point to continue the kelvinverse, beside it was already dead anyway
JJ, for the entirety of the marketing cycle: No, you guys, seriously, my Superman isn't vulnerable to anything, even Kryptonite.
*climax of the movie comes along, Lex Luthor uses Kryptonite to stun Superman*
JJ:
Mission Impossible is carved out. Two more are happening no matter what and Bad Robot still gets a piece of that pie.
Not super recently, but yeah this is a thing that was said after paradox came out. Complete bummer if cloverfield is scrapped for good
He did. But whatever happens with that, I'm guessing they try to re-create the lightning-in-the-bottle of the first and it's a secret, cheap project. Really doubt, given the performance of the recent Godzilla movie and the Pacific Rim sequel, that we're going to see a big budget kaiju movie anytime soon, Abrams or otherwise.
This is exactly what's gonna happen. Probably will direct the first one.
He will helm the new DC universe
Would it even really be worth it to try and pretend a Cloverfield movie isn't a Cloverfield movie? It's not like the original movie ended up being a surprise. The only surprising part was that it was significantly more mundane than anyone was hoping it would be.
No, no, it's more that...I suspect it kinda comes out of nowhere, has a trailer attached to something surprising. I don't think they play the headfake game in the same way. I also think it may just never happen because it's been so long.
Orci seems to be out, because Kurtzman and Orci apparently broke up after a fight about which one of the two was responsible for their bigger failures. Orci was also the 9/11 truther of the duo, so Kurtzman seems to be the superior one.
Kurtzman and Orci appear to be mediocre writers, but they are theorized to be capable and well-liked producers, because they allow the writers to do their jobs and write.
Kurtzman was supposedly only in the Star Trek Discovery producer's room as insurance, because Paramount liked JJ's Star Trek movies (which Kurtzman had been attached to), but then the producer's room imploded with allegations of physical and mental abuse, because everyone except Kurtzman was a terrible producer who was taken off the project one way or another, and Kurtzman was left holding the bag. Apparently the entire reason Star Trek Discovery continues to exist at all is because Kurtzman is a very talented producer who managed to keep the entire show running (and debatably helped it become even better) after a catastrophic implosion. Kurtzman wasn't supposed to be involved. He stepped up because they needed him.
Complaints about Discovery come down to "Kurtzman isn't writing the show, he's letting the writers write it, and writers don't always produce 100% gold, not even when they've been liberated by someone like Kurtzman."
The green-lighting of the Picard Show is apparently 100% thanks to Kurtzman's producing skills. Previous writers had said that Paramount was entirely disinterested in TNG. Kurtzman convinced Paramount that TNG was something worth going back to.
Kurtzman's position with Star Trek is basically the same as the one that Rick Berman once held, and fans always had an antagonistic relationship with Rick Berman.
Reading all of that, I really have to point again to that "replace them with random people from the street" idea. If the best thing you can say about a producer is "he let's the smart people do their stuff", then why even have the position
God I wish someone at Paramount actually understood and cared about this franchise, even a little bit
Roddenberry tried his hardest with the first Star Trek movie, but man was that an overweight dog. Even the TNG movies transformed their series into a big, dumb action movie format.
paramount got nothing to do with the current run of tv show it's all cbs