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Cat Party

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Oct 25, 2017
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Never really expected to see this franchise come back, but I'm excited for it, even if it is not strictly Perfect Dark. I wonder if it will have more of a futuristic Hitman vibe. The prior games had that open-ended style for a lot of the missions.

BTW, approximately 1/4 of the posts in this thread are some form of concern trolling. It's just so tiring.
 

Falcon511

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Era really needs to rethink how much of a platform we give these "insiders", this is getting silly lol

I mean to me it sounds like he saying that to him Perfect Dark is a FPS. There will be elements from PD in this game, such as the sci fi futuristic setting and the espionage. Perhaps is more of a re imagining. Removing the aliens from the story and sort of focusing on a more grounded human story. Also being 3rd person instead of an FPS.
 

CloseTalker

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I mean to me it sounds like he saying that to him Perfect Dark is a FPS. There will be elements from PD in this game, such as the sci fi futuristic setting and the espionage. Perhaps is more of a re imagining. Removing the aliens from the story and sort of focusing on a more grounded human story. Also being 3rd person instead of an FPS.
I feel like the only thing that ties a game to a PD setting is having the main character be Joanna Dark. Literally nothing else about that franchise means anything to anyone, take her away and you just have a futuristic action setting. Which is fine, to be clear.
 

Dehnus

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Oct 30, 2017
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As long as the music is great, like the two other games, I'm in!

I just need to spend a lot of time downloading it for PC.... bloody Telenor.

Also, alot of concern in this thread. When they don't announce it, then concern... If they do.... concern. People seem very concerned on this site.
 

Quellyford

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"Clarifying" as in "completely walking back", lol. You're on notice Jeff! Mass Effect remaster in October, I'm holding you to that!
Haha I guess you could interpret it that way. He kinda fixed his comment to be in the same universe or similar universe, but not necessarily that franchise.

Honestly I feel like talking about this when we are likely 3-4 years away from release is moot lol!
 

zoltek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Who the heck is Jeff Grubb? Why am I seeing his name all over rumors and leaks the past few weeks? How often has he been correct?
 

klastical

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You mean like Grounded, or Ori, or Battletoads, or Sea of Thieves, or Minecraft Dungeons... ?

I actually wish MS released *more* shooters lol, it's a long wait between Gears games.
They released/will release Ori 2, Flight Sim, Grounded, Battle Toads, Gears Tactics, Tell Me Why and helped release Wasteland 3. They announced Hellblade 2, Project Mara, EverWild, Avowed, Fable, and State of Decay 3 over the past year.

None of these games are shooters.

For sure but I wouldn't call anything listed a flagship franchise and the initiatives new game is supposed to be "AAAA" by all accounts do yes. Xbox has a problem where its big tentpole releases are either shooters or forza. Don't get me wrong, I love my xbox and gamepass but I'm not excited to learn that Microsofts big secret project is another shooter. I don't think that's controversial.
 

Aswitch

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I don't hate this concept actually. Halo obviously dominates first person futuristic shooter on xbox so going third person would be fine if all of the other perfect dark tropes stay intact. There's technically gears but overall there's more fps's than Third person shooters so It could work if done well.
 

UraMallas

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Several people have echoed that exact sentiment. "It's not Perfect Dark but kinda is." Zhuge, Grubb, and Shinobi have all hinted in that same direction now.

Maybe just a full on new IP but taking elements from PD? Like sci-fi, gadgets, and spy stuff as well as maybe some of the tiered mission-based level structure?

Who fucking knows. Jan 28:

 

Samiya

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Sounds good to me, I hope their change of the formula still means that it'll be a woman-fronted game. Given the fact that it's a huge budget, I doubt it. It'll probably be multiple characters to appease as many markets as possible, I imagine.
 

Theorry

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Several people have echoed that exact sentiment. "It's not Perfect Dark but kinda is." Zhuge, Grubb, and Shinobi have all hinted in that same direction now.

Maybe just a full on new IP but taking elements from PD? Like sci-fi, gadgets, and spy stuff as well as maybe some of the tiered mission-based level structure?

Who fucking knows. Jan 28:


Oh hi

I have said this a couple of times. You guys remember that "Shangheist" game from Black Tusk that was teased back in the day in 2013. Black Tusk is now Coalition btw.
I can see TI taking that game and working on it.

TI and Coalition seem to work with eachother more then normally. And being "linked' for a long time now.
Spencer said "new and old" Its a new game but "old" in a way that it was already shown
Game was wrapping up pre production and then the Gears IP thing happened and Black Tusk took that.
This also explains maybe that they can show something now. The game was already being worked on and they didnt start fully from scratch.
Linkedin descriptions " various weapons, gadgets, and a camera surveillance system" could fit that game also. As it was some sort of "spy game" also
I dont know. I am not fully in the PD corner.

 

VeePs

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For sure but I wouldn't call anything listed a flagship franchise and the initiatives new game is supposed to be "AAAA" by all accounts do yes. Xbox has a problem where its big tentpole releases are either shooters or forza. Don't get me wrong, I love my xbox and gamepass but I'm not excited to learn that Microsofts big secret project is another shooter. I don't think that's controversial.

🤷‍♂️

They had a game show recently where they announced several AAA/high production titles that aren't a shooter.

With more developers like Compulsion and inXile working behind the scenes on games that most likely won't be shooters/shooting heavy (like Halo/Gears).

They literally created a brand new team from the ground up to work on Fable. Avowed should be solid. We'll probably get Outer Worlds 2 down the line. Hellblade 2 is promising. Forza Motorsport has been announced, and Forza Horizon 5 is most likely in the works. Undead Labs has more than doubled in size and is working on a AAA State of Decay project.

You're initial post said you hope they "try something different" - and im looking at the list above and saying they just announced tons of variety.

On top of that, "shooting" is such a broad term. Halo, Deus Ex, Uncharted, Last of Us, Splinter Cell, and Gears are all "shooters".

I'm not saying you need to be excited about it - if it's not your cup of tea it is what it is (I'm sadly not a fan of the Souls genre myself). I'm just pointing out Microsoft has invested in a lot of its studios and seems to be offering more AAA-non shooter experiences in the future.
 
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I mean to me it sounds like he saying that to him Perfect Dark is a FPS. There will be elements from PD in this game, such as the sci fi futuristic setting and the espionage. Perhaps is more of a re imagining. Removing the aliens from the story and sort of focusing on a more grounded human story. Also being 3rd person instead of an FPS.
You're adding a lot of speculation there. Not accusing the guy of anything unseemly, but if your speculation is the case why not just come out and say that then? Or if not comfortable with that, why say anything at all?


Seems like that kind of vague-tweeting is a recipe for:

Tweet 1: "Msoft has a team working on a new Perfect Dark"

(someone challenges the tweet)

Tweet 2: "What I MEANT was that the game may take a few pages from the old Rare game but be different"

(people spend pages and pages of forum posts speculating and hyping themselves up over months, maybe years)

Game Is Announced: Is a totally non-PD related game with some arbitrarily similar elements

Tweet 3: I never MEANT it was really Perfect Dark, just that I had heard some things that sounded similar. Things may have changed in development.



Leakers and insiders know what tweets like this to do discussion forums/social media. Be clear, or keep it to yourself.
 

TripleBee

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Would have preferred new IP. But I won't complain too much about a Naughty Dog style AAAA game but set in a universe far more interesting imo
 

Prine

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Hmm so perhaps it's a new cyberpunk spy game using Perfect Dark as inspiration?
 
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Uzupedro

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Well, Apex works very similarly to TitanFall in terms of gameplay(IIRC), but besides some references it doesn't have much connections with either game, so I wonder to what extent Jeff's analogy will be true with this remake/reboot/sequel/whatever it is .
 

Adam_Roman

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If this isn't strictly PD and is third-person, I wonder if this is testing the waters for a full PD comeback? I'd love a first person new entry in the series.
 
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Third-person action/stealth with a Blade Runner vibe would be amazing.
Seriously. Perfect Dark has such a great Blade Runner-esque aesthetic to its cities.
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A third-person game set in this universe with all the fun weapons and gadgets (as hinted at in the Initiative's job postings) sounds amazing.
 

daTRUballin

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So I'm confused. It's not Perfect Dark, but it is Perfect Dark? Lol

Almost sounds like a new IP that takes ideas from PD. But then why not just make a PD? If the game is going to have PD in the title, then it IS a PD game. Otherwise, this is slightly confusing.
 

VeePs

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So I'm confused. It's not Perfect Dark, but it is Perfect Dark? Lol

Almost sounds like a new IP that takes ideas from PD. But then why not just make a PD? If the game is going to have PD in the title, then it IS a PD game. Otherwise, this is slightly confusing.

Seems like it's set in the Perfect Dark universe, but at the same time it is it's own thing (Not a FPS, might not focus on Joanna, etc). We'll see I guess.
 
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