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Jason Schreier: "Final Fantasy VII Remake's Box Art Sure Is Misleading"
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I don't think that's a guarantee. I don't expect the rest of the game to be expanded in the way they seem to be expanding on Midgar.
I'm still thinking that a trilogy is the sweet spot. Any longer than that and the project would start wearing thin on people. I made a post somewhere on here a week or two back where I compared the Post Midgar -> City of the Ancients Plot to the plot of FFXII and it lined up relatively well. I think its very possible to wrap up post-Midgar FFVII's story in two games with modern production values, provided you make smart design decisions.
"A simple flip on the box" that noone ever does. You know that. Everyone knows people don't do that. It's baffling how you are arguing for them not putting the info in the title and trailers. You know, the parts 100% of people interested in the game actually see and watch.
"Why would Square do the most obvious, easy and consumer friendly thing when people could do shit nobody ever does to inform themselves". Sound argument mate.
Why would you even flip it? It says remake of ff7.
SOLD!
*mindframe of the lapsed gamer who remembers ff7 being his most favorite game of all time, the target market for said product*
But they took 2 hours to get to the tornado so its totes okay. Can't complain, its a full movie!
Do you guys think people got this riled up when It (2017) didn't have a subtitle?
That did happen though, not recently but it happened. The animated movie covered only two thirds of the trilogy released without any subtitle.
That did happen though, not recently but it happened. The animated movie covered only two thirds of the trilogy released without any subtitle.
I guess they'll go for X-2, XIII-2, and VIIR-2 route all over again.
I mean why would they need to add a subtitle!? It's a full game!
I'm not sure why this is a crazy leap when the first part has a release date.
Are... is a single game series such a crazy, delusional idea?
I guess I'm saying I don't understand why a couple other releases area delusional idea when the first release is 100 percent happening. Sure, if it bombs, the series will never get completed, but I think it's a bit early to make that call, yeah?
It's just that this company has a history of making these bold promises and grand projects (remember all the FF13 universe games they promised?) and then never following through. At the best of times, they take half a decade to release a game. The other installments are extremely speculative at this point.
Fabula Nova Crytallis!
I think every game that was announced under that umbrella got released, they just got rebranded because the XIII brand got screwed up a by a lukewarm reception to the first game.
Yes and no. The game is being remade because the fans demanded it, which are very likely the same fans who are keeping up with the development and (big assumption here) know that it's only one part of a bigger project.
I like to think the marketing guys over at Square-enix believes they are marketing it toward those fans, and chose an updated version of the original cover to cater to them.
Of course though, it's misleading to those who know almost nothing of a 20+ year old game that they probably heard was awesome/overrated.
I like to think the marketing guys over at Square-enix believes they are marketing it toward those fans, and chose an updated version of the original cover to cater to them.
Of course though, it's misleading to those who know almost nothing of a 20+ year old game that they probably heard was awesome/overrated.
They're setting a certain expectation by making Midgar alone an entire game, with this level of quality, detail, and attention. I can't imagine them just doing two more games to cover the rest. Especially if they actually go open world with them, which they sort of have to unless they do it like the original's world map.
They could easily mine FOUR more games out of the rest. Even more if they are also planning to incorporate Compilation of FF7 stuff that wasn't in the original release (Which it seems like they might be).
I can't see them doing one game for what was original the first four hours, and then jamming all of the rest into only two games. I think most people expect things to come in threes/trilogies as well, so the fact that they didn't say anything specific in terms of how many parts they have planned is telling as well.
I definitely wouldn't assume that everyone who has been excited and hyped about the prospects of a FF7 remake since the 2005 tech demo or w/e is completely informed on the status of the current FF7 Remake. I think many are vaguely aware it is happening without knowing that it isn't covering the full game.
I've had this thought myself to be totally honest. But I believe their company would lose way to much good faith if they didn't keep it going. It may take a decade to get it all out there, but I think they'll finish it.
I have a friend who beat ff7 over 60 times.
He did starting weapon runs.
He did only red materia runs.
He literally put notches into the back of his box.
He didnt know this was split into parts until I told him either.
Have you ever seen a soul die?
He did starting weapon runs.
He did only red materia runs.
He literally put notches into the back of his box.
He didnt know this was split into parts until I told him either.
Have you ever seen a soul die?
I admittedly do think it is a bit sketchy that the company and creative leads that love to make gratuitous game titles more than anyone else in the industry
to the point of giving so much info in the title that it makes it MORE confusing (Kingdom Hearts II.8 etc.) has went with a really simple
title in this case.
to the point of giving so much info in the title that it makes it MORE confusing (Kingdom Hearts II.8 etc.) has went with a really simple
title in this case.
Clearly what we need to do is discover Atlantis and a magical pearl and the last person alive of Atlantean descent and it'll all work out!
So why not put it in the title? Is there a good reason that Square shouldn't? Or just a nebulous preference on your part?
Yes consumers *should* inform themselves, but that doesn't mean they do. That poster's friend is exactly the group of people that Square is trying to draw in by leaving the title as is. The whole premise of remaking the game is to capitalize on nostalgia. If someone who played FF7 back in the day, but hadn't seen been aware of the remake were to walk up & look at that box there's next to no way they'd think anything other than it being the complete game remade.
Final Fantasy VII-2 Remake Final Fantasy VII Remake: Cloud Returns (this lowkey makes sense) incoming!!!!
Okay, I'm on board with the multiple game project idea, but this post made me laugh out loud.
That is kinda weird that it doesn't say part 1 or something on the front. There is a lot of people who will buy this game without knowing the deep details of it and almost certainly be disappointed (not in the game but maybe where it stops) lol. I mean I'm fine with it since I know about it in advance, but I'd be kind of annoyed if I didn't know it stopped at midgar and it just did. Mostly because you wouldn't expect it to stop that early under any circumstance. Even if the game is fun and fleshed out you still wouldn't expect it since most remakes (all of them so far???) are the whole game.
Thinking on it, is this the only remake that doesn't cover the whole game / is in parts? Off the top of my head I can't think of another one like that. Not to say it's bad I'm just realizing its a pretty unique situation.
Thinking on it, is this the only remake that doesn't cover the whole game / is in parts? Off the top of my head I can't think of another one like that. Not to say it's bad I'm just realizing its a pretty unique situation.
Once again a gaming forum makes the assumption that everyone who's remotely interested in X game has researched its entire development, read every news article and interview about it, and couldn't possibly have only watched the trailers or just seen a headline with the release date w/o reading the article.
Most people who love games aren't nearly as obsessed with following every last part of a game's development as we are. And most people thoroughly read a back cover or PSN description as often as they read the EULA aka next to never. Let's not delude ourselves; this is a marketing ploy to trick people into thinking this is the entire kit and kaboodle. And there will be a backlash when they see the credits role and it's not the full game. The title is misleading as hell and should be labeled as "Part 1/Episode 1/Disc1" or whatever.
Most people who love games aren't nearly as obsessed with following every last part of a game's development as we are. And most people thoroughly read a back cover or PSN description as often as they read the EULA aka next to never. Let's not delude ourselves; this is a marketing ploy to trick people into thinking this is the entire kit and kaboodle. And there will be a backlash when they see the credits role and it's not the full game. The title is misleading as hell and should be labeled as "Part 1/Episode 1/Disc1" or whatever.
Voted "I don't know."
I can totally see people seeing the game and not realize there will be more parts in the future. But I don't understand where the issue with the box art begins. Haven't we already known that this game was called Final Fantasy 7 Remake and seen its logo a million times? I'm not sure why it's only when it's slapped onto cover art that it's misleading.
I can totally see people seeing the game and not realize there will be more parts in the future. But I don't understand where the issue with the box art begins. Haven't we already known that this game was called Final Fantasy 7 Remake and seen its logo a million times? I'm not sure why it's only when it's slapped onto cover art that it's misleading.
We had no idea what the boxart was going to be nor what the finished title was.
Weird thing I just discovered:
has the game listed as
FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE
calls the game
Final Fantasy VII Remake [Working Title]
Final Fantasy VII Remake was largely assumed to be a placeholder during development until a more definitive title was decided like Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 1: Midgar or something.
... do you not know what "Working Title" means? Hell, that first page you link shows a "NOT FINAL ART" boxart.
No, the Canadian version of the site and the US version of the site have the game listed under two different titles AND with different capitalization styling!
I gotta say, it was really strange reading hundreds of posts arguing about IT & the Hobbit when a perfectly good example of a beloved mid-90's title getting remade released this year in the same medium being discussed. Resident Evil 2 is a perfect comparison. This is as if Capcom fleshed out the Police Station portion into it's own "feature-length" game but released it as "Resident Evil 2".
There would be nothing wrong with fleshing out the Police Station into it's own game but the marketing would need to clearly reflect that. As others have said, if SquareEnix doesn't want to commit to further releases a simple subtitle would suffice. Plainly calling it "Final Fantasy VII Remake" carries certain expectations.
Yeah the title and artwork combo is definitely being intentionally vague to influence sales, and I'm sure for the sequels they'll either do the classic "-2, -3" at the end of VII like they've done for X and XIII or "FFVII: Subtitle".
It's misleading and absolutely intentional. This game should have a "Part 1" or some-such attached to the title, working title or not.
I have an account on a forum like this and I didn't know for the longest time this thing was being split into parts. They know what they are doing with this title, and it's lame.
I have an account on a forum like this and I didn't know for the longest time this thing was being split into parts. They know what they are doing with this title, and it's lame.
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