Well that's good to know that Microsoft at least supports VR for PC.
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Is the dream of VR on Xbox dead (again)
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Microsoft has shown time and time again that they don't have any interest in VR content on the Xbox platform. It's disappointing but expected.
VirtualLink - Wikipedia
But how would these compatible third party headsets connect? Instead of a TV? That is the point of this thread.
I don't think the technology and price is there for mass market appeal to make it worth the effort to deal with for Microsoft. It'd really be a waste of time till the technology takes a bigger leap while also being really affordable.
I think we are at this point already.
Oculus Quest 2 for $299 is quite a big deal IMO.
If the PSVR2 is wireless(99% will be) and not too expensive, it will big.
Technology won't take a bigger leap if no one is driving it forward!
PlayStation is big enough to create a market that is interesting to pursue, and my guess is that Sony might give you support adding/porting to PSVR.
I think it's still far away. $299 for an accessory with a small library of games to take advantage of it is ridiculous for someone like me. Even more so for the mass non-hardcore gamers.
And I haven't tried them all, but I haven't even found the technology super impressive yet either. It still feels clunky for me. I've only briefly tried it though. But overall, I wasn't even remotely impressed enough to spend what's being asked currently.
I don't think PSVR2 will be wireless.
It just won't require cameras. It will be like the Rift S and the HP Reverb G2.
And if Microsoft were to add it, and it's not freaking AMAZING then they get pointed and laughed at and get ridiculed for "Kinect 3." And they back away from it.
If they got into the market it's got to be a BIG leap with a very consumer friendly price tag. Not more of the same that everyone else has going on.
The VirtualLink is based on USB-C, has 24 pins, and carries DP, USB 3.1, power and I^2C all at the same time. USB 3.1 Type-A ports has only 9 pins, so the short answer is no.VirtualLink - Wikipedia
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Dead?
What is this new headset using then
Video, USB, and power on one cable with a USB-C connector...
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www.oculus.com
People don't think of PSVR as a Kinect 3 with it's 2016 HMD and 2010 controllers. People are largely impressed, even if they know it's not something they can use for long periods.
I'm sure they wouldn't go with anything less than what Quest 2 offers, and that's already better than an Index in several areas.
Sony isn't Microsoft tho. Not even trying to turn it into a console war thread(I'm genuinely not), but Microsoft has a tendency to get knocked for things that Sony doesn't get knocked for. Just look at how many Gamepass hot takes we see every single day on here, or how Microsoft gets knocked for acquiring devs and Sony doesn't.
Microsoft would have to absolutely blow everyone away with VR tech or they would just get laughed out of the market because it's not Sony or not a PC.
Really nor trying to start something, so please don't take this as bait or anything. Microsoft just has a different perception out there than everyone else does
Think its gonna be pretty hard to gather up a big enough audience for next gen consoles to support vr , at least in the next couple years or so
Yeah jumping on VR before fixing that makes little sense. I think VR will come sooner or later.
I have the Quest and used it the first week and it's been collecting dust ever since. It still has ways to go.
USB confusion strikes again. USB-A can do anything a USB-C connector can do, except power delivery. The bandwidth is there. I don't think the PS5 USB-C port has PD either.
Microsoft brought the ridicule onto themselves, it looks like they ordered every one of their studios to add a Kinect mode... like Forza Motorsport 4
Forza Motorsport 4: Driving with Kinect HD
Bill Giese shows how to drive with Kinect. no Controller needed. Though, it's for the casual players...
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The winner game in this list is the only one that looks interesting, but it is nothing that could not be done by any camera like the PS3/PS4 one...
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If you are playing a driver, holding a steering wheel actually helps.
If you are playing a fighter pilot, holding a HOTAS helps.
Having the visuals and sound that match as you turn your head helps even more and if you haven't tried Moss on PSVR do it - it is 3D platformer and you step into Moss world...
You can and need to move your head to see round corners.
People can knock them, but what matters is how much ground Microsoft gains against Sony. They have a decent amount of VR developers now.
Maybe. Only way I'd care about VR is if it shipped with every console at launch. Other than that, there's no way it e we piled be supported properly.
Dead?
What is this new headset using then
Video, USB, and power on one cable with a USB-C connector...
Meta
Nvidia dropped support in 3xxx series.
But... MS just bought a publisher and people here are mostly positive.
I really doubt VR support would be something bad, especially when their own devs are making VR on PC. It just excludes console only gamers from VR.
- Looks like a 2018 "standard" initiated by Nvidia.
- Nvidia with their head start quickly releases videoboards with support.
- 3rd party Nvidia developers do not like the added cost (inkl. power requirements) with little use - skips them.
- AMD is pissed and refuses, as they will be late compared to Nvidia (and 3rd party Nvidia does not use it anyway)...
- VR headset developers has long cycles, products release now
- Nvidia drops direct support.
DisplayPort and USB3.1 gen 2 + power -> USB-C VirtualLink
and here it is already
VirtualLink Interface Adapter
VirtualLink Interface Adapter enables a legacy system to work with a VirtualLink cable by combining DisplayPort 1.4 and USB 3.1 Gen 2 from the legacy system to generate a VirtualLink host port over a Type-C connector.
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A box for XBox Series needs a HDMI in and out + but XBox Series only has USB3.1 gen 1 ports...
Edit: USB 3.1 gen 1 seems to be the same as USB 3.2 gen 1, strange that the device maker uses the higher and the host maker use the lower...
I do not think the standard is dead, it just did not make sense to add it to the already power hungry GPU board... but wireless will be better!
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Elsewhere doesn't just mean PC though. A lot of mobile VR out there.
They just bought Zenimax. Some of the biggest games in VR have been the VR versions of Skyrim and Fallout 4. They should atleast consider it.
Best part of that thread is the person replying to everyone who is even slightly dismissive of VR and trying to convince them that they're wrong
Dead?
What is this new headset using then
Video, USB, and power on one cable with a USB-C connector...
Meta
a proprietary video streaming solution that also works perfectly well with a USB-A connector on the PC side. (source: my PC)
virtualink is a specific USB-C thing and it would've been nice if it took off but it didn't. almost no-one ever got to use it, and the xbox not having a USB-C port has literally nothing to do with its ability to handle VR.
phil spencer essentially saying "we're not doing VR", though, does.
Yeah it's a bummer, I liked how Bethesda was supporting VR. There aren't a giant amount of AAA devs in that space.
Yikes. SX lacks a USB-C port? What a stupid decision. Cancelling my pre-order.
I have great expectations for what Sony will be able to do with the PSVR2. As cloud gaming services grow in popularity, VR will be a great way for consoles differentiate as it will be a while longer before cloud VR work well.
So it's possible for them to do VR with the 3.1 A port on Series X?? (without a terrible box like PSVR1) My dreams aren't dead just yet?
Yeah, Xbox Series X (not to mention S) is just not designed for VR. Basically IO availability or lack there of kills it alongside of lack of WiFi 6. In that regard PS5 is much better.
I just hope that Bethesda continues doing VR versions of their titles. Despite jank, Skyrim VR and Fallout 4 VR are quite entertaining (with mods, on PC). I didn't even think about that when the acquisition was announced.
I just hope that Bethesda continues doing VR versions of their titles. Despite jank, Skyrim VR and Fallout 4 VR are quite entertaining (with mods, on PC). I didn't even think about that when the acquisition was announced.
It's Gen 1 transfer rates. So can't really support anything with both good resolution and good framerates.
Yes. Phil Spencer said that the audience isn't calling for it.
Which is true, the install base isn't there and to do it correctly the tech is too expensive for most console gamers.
Which is true, the install base isn't there and to do it correctly the tech is too expensive for most console gamers.
That would totally be me. It's not me of course on twitter but I do love VR and have often defended it against people who are dismissive.
no reason why they couldn't at least match oculus quest link levels of quality. otherwise though you are probably looking at a breakout box, yeah.
That's dead as a VR standard though as Nvidia ditched it from the 3000 series.
Mobile is a huge chunk of that, and unless you're excited for Elder Scrolls Blades VR then you should want devs to be able to develop for over half of the enthusiast market. Bethesda won't be making games for the Quest, they will be trying to justify PC only VR titles when their new owners just don't see the value in supporting the medium.
Yeah Bethesda and Ubisoft were the main ones to step up, everyone else mostly does VR minigames attached to their big games or little experiences. Sadly Ubisoft seems to have given up consumer VR, and its frustrating to think that Bethesda could be next.
except the quest and quest 2 are not accessories. they are full standalone headsets on their own which happen to also support carry output from a pc via wire.
I doubt Bethesda will be ditching VR, only PSVR. Hell, I could see smallish games like the VR DOOM or Cyberpunk games eventually making their way to PS consoles if the market is big enough, considering how they didn't mind Mojang porting MinecraftVR to PSVR.
DisplayPort alt mode is a VESA standard, you are thinking of virtual link standard.