Yeah this is also true, if you considered this then the difference is huge. Even consoles like PS2 didn't have many of them. It was Xbox that brought wrpg/crpg to the console space.Yeah unless I'm mistaken Nintendo handhelds never had nearly as many WRPGs as the Switch does. Not to mention CRPGs which basically weren't even a thing on consoles until this gen.
It's not just JRPGs.
I previously said it's better than any handheld and any home console except the 4/5 you mentioned. Sounds like you basically agree so either you didn't read correctly or else any positivity regarding Nintendo must rub you the wrong way.meh I just don't think the Switch is up there yet. could it get there? yes but it's not there yet and I read what you said
Yeah. To me an equivalently ridiculous statement would be 'the 2010s is one of the best decades for Westerns'.If you're in the demographic for what it's offering (not necessarily all of the latest and greatest but certainly still good-great games, a portability hook, and a handful of good Nintendo-only stuff) I can see why it's turning out great. If you're not, such as if you've bought and played a lot of the games already, then you may think it still has a lot of ground to cover as far as establishing a more unique identity in its lineup (and it still has 3-5 years to do that). Both positions have valid reasoning to me as a response to the question in the title.
Personally I think the "greatest of all time" RPG platforms had a "special factor" in that a lot of new and unique games are produced, especially if you dig around for games from around the world and not just what released in America, in addition to the stuff everyone knows about. I wouldn't say the Switch is particularly close to that (or the PS4). Sequels, ports, and remakes for tried-and-true IPs and individual games is great, but I think the platforms with the best claim at being one of the "greatest of all time" are those where you can claim that they have that and much, much more. There are platforms where you could cut out all the "well known" games/franchises, all the ports, and all the remakes, and even after that still have a absurdly long list of interesting and fun RPGs to discover and play. Not that I think the Switch or PS4 are bad for RPGs, just that they're far from the first platforms that come to mind for me for such a question. It's not as if they have to be one of the best or else they're not good at all, lol.
As others have said though we're probably a long way from being able to repeat that stretch of the 80s/90s/early 2000s where productivity, creativity, and quality managed to all be at a fairly high level at the same time and lots of publishers and developers were trying to make their own RPG.
The Witcher 3 alone is probably better than every single rpg on those systems.Nope not even with "'one of". Ps1, Ps2, Snes, PSP are all better rpg consoles
PlayStation still holds that title. There are a lot of RPGs that just aren't on the Switch that are available on PS4
We have what, about ~60 or so RPGs released on the Switch including a ton of ports (like, Kemco mobile games and stuff ($5 titles))? There are over 250 on the PS1, most of them just for that system.The Witcher 3 alone is probably better than every single rpg on those systems.
Next gen, Microsoft will be very big on WRPGs (InXile, Obsidian, Playground Games). Switch will offer a lot of stuff from WRPGs and JRPGs, with some exclusive JRPGs and more choice for JRPGs than Xbox One while probably less choice for WRPGs from thirds. PS4 will have full Japanese support and western thirds for WRPGs, but less WRPG exclusives compared to Xbox One as these tend to be multi-plat.
The Switch has a solid RPG lineup so far but I don't think it is even in the conversation for greatest ever yet.
We have what, about ~60 or so RPGs released on the Switch including a ton of ports (like, Kemco mobile games and stuff ($5 titles))? There are over 250 on the PS1, most of them just for that system.
I mean, people can still take issue with that statement. Those things you underlined are very open to interpretation.Is it just me, or is the Nintendo Switch becoming one of the greatest RPG consoles of all time?
People, please read.
Lol, give me a break. PS1/PS2 absolutely demolish it in the RPG category.
No but overexagerration does which is what this whole topic is.I previously said it's better than any handheld and any home console except the 4/5 you mentioned. Sounds like you basically agree so either you didn't read correctly or else any positivity regarding Nintendo must rub you the wrong way.
yeah no the Witcher 3 is not better than a huge amount of ps1 and ps2 rpgs.The Witcher 3 alone is probably better than every single rpg on those systems.
Many people here are not really paying attention to how many rpgs has been released or are coming to Switch.
And what about the rpgs that are available on Switch but not PS4? They don't count?
So it really is the second option. Can't give an inch, lol.No but overexagerration does which is what this whole topic is.
So for a system to have a great library, it should have every single game out there? who said that? they are making up for the stuff they don't have with their own games. they don't have FFXV but they have Pokemon, they don't have Persona 5 but they have Fire Emblem Three Houses, they don't have NieR Automata (not now, at least) but they have Astral Chain. they don't have Tales of Arise but they have Xenoblade Chronicles series.
It is not realistic to expect every single game in existence to be on every platform, especially as many of them have or may have exclusivity deals or other circumstances.
However and answering your question: The upcoming Shin Megami Tensei V, The World Ends With You, Little Town Hero, Yokai Watch 4, Grandia Hd Collection, Rune Factory 4 and 5, Octopath Traveler, Mary Skelter 2 (in the west), and The Snack World are some of the games that are not or won't be on PS4.
Both devices have far more games than you are mentioning too, JRPGs were not presented this heavily on a console since the PS2.
Well said— this is 100% my take as well.As someone who very rarely double-dips, a console that's almost entirely focused on ports of games I already played isn't really what I would call "the greatest RPG console of all time", no.
Of course, I just don't care at all about the portability factor, so for me the Switch is just a mediocre (technologically) mid-range console that's primarily notable for being the only place where you can play Nintendo's games.
Well said— this is 100% my take as well.
The only port I'm sore about is having already played DQXI on PS4, but I should have waited to play the super deluxe Switch version.
I'd disagree, it's also incredibly port heavy and most of it's new efforts skew younger (Pokémon, MMBN, YGO, Medabots, etc). Also some of it's best stuff was never localized like Mother 3 or Slime Morimori.The GBA probably has the Switch thoroughly best in terms of JRPG offerings.
The GBA has Golden Sun and?..., the Switch has FF VII-XII and will have SMT5 as well as Xenoblade 1 remake at some point. So imo, absolutely not.The GBA probably has the Switch thoroughly best in terms of JRPG offerings.
I cant help but roll my eyes when people say, for example, that the ps1 is a better rpg console when ps1 doesnt have any RPG games released after like 2001....like I know y"all love your retro stuff but let's be real lol
Yeah, it has 1st party support in the genre.Does it have anything except a couple of titles that aren't also releasing for PS4 - and doesn't have the other titles such as KH3, FF15, Fallout 4, FF7 Remake, etc?
I cant help but roll my eyes when people say, for example, that the ps1 is a better rpg console when ps1 doesnt have any RPG games released after like 2001....like I know y"all love your retro stuff but let's be real lol
So far?What 1st party RPG does it have? It has an SRPG and an ARPG (really Zelda is more of an Action Adventure than RPG but that's a larger debate)?
I suppose if you work with weird limitations like that and discount others, then, yeah, it doesn't have muchDoes it have anything except a couple of titles that aren't also releasing for PS4 - and doesn't have the other titles such as KH3, FF15, Fallout 4, FF7 Remake, etc?
If so, not at all becoming the greatest RPG console. Now if you changed word console for handheld then you would have a conversation!
But outside of portability or it being your only console, no reason to get most of these ports on Switch. Now if you only have a Switch or you play outside your TV often, then it's a huge advantage over PS4!
Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Pokemon, the upcoming Persona Emblem port, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well as the upcoming remake of the first game, Astral Chain, and Zelda. For a system that's only 2 and a half years old, that's pretty good and it's prospects are looking solid too, since we'll also add in the likely Mario RPGs as wellWhat 1st party RPG does it have? It has an SRPG and an ARPG (really Zelda is more of an Action Adventure than RPG but that's a larger debate)?
So far?
Released
Coming up
- Astral Chain
- Fire Emblem: Three Houses
- Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu!/Evee!
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna - The Golden Country
- Pokémon Sword/Shield
- Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore
- Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
This is setting aside Zelda and all the games Nintendo picks up for western regions (DQ series, Octopath, etc).
They're ARPGs. Like Nier or PSO.
So far?
Released
Coming up
- Astral Chain
- Fire Emblem: Three Houses
- Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu!/Evee!
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna - The Golden Country
- Pokémon Sword/Shield
- Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore
- Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
This is setting aside Zelda and all the games Nintendo picks up for western regions (DQ series, Octopath, etc).
Mario+Rabbids is great but yeah it's 3rd party. I was also focused on Japan stuff.Don't forget Mario + Rabbids, even though it's not first party.
And doesn't it also have a bunch of console exclusives that were either PC or mobile ports?