Just for clarification the level empathy should be tied to how big of a platform the person saying shitty things has?
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Internet celebrity Etika may be losing it again [WARNING: RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC SLURS] (Update: hospitalized again; see threadmark/staff posts)
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Just for clarification the level empathy should be tied to how big of a platform the person saying shitty things has?
Man some of his fans are just making this worse. There was a video of some kid saying that he was arrested because he was black and was wronged and taht the revolution is starting tonight, he also had machete so Idk what the hell is going on.
He wasn't considered a threat to himself or others so they couldn't force him to stay.
He has obviously a really destructive behavior, he's destroying himself.
What?
Lemme drop some knowledge since you're looking silly right now. First of all you need to know what a drive-by/hit and run post actually is. My post wasn't that.
or if you want another definition
I've been in this thread since it opened and I've posted numerous times and have always stayed on topic so no, my post was not a drive by post. You trying to label it that is just an example of you trying to cause static because you screwed up. Good job pal.
Next, that post you responded to was made after numerous posts by myself commenting on Etika's health and his safety.
My post was post 675 and I said
On that very same page earlier I said
#657
#672
That's not taking into account the other numerous posts I've made about Etika's health and his safety and nowhere have I said "I'm sick of him" or shown anything other than commenting on his health. You can literally go through this thread and see my comments. I've got receipts Skippy.
What you did is you took one thing I said and rather than ask what I meant like adults do before they make their judgement (or hell scrolling up and seeing what I meant) you assumed and now you're looking silly. Rather than saying "man I should have asked" or "man what did you mean" you're acting like I meant ill intent when the reality is no, you screwed up. Let alone the fact when confronted with the fact you're speaking more on his income rather than his health (which I've been commenting on the whole time) you pull the "BUT BUT YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ETTTIKKA SO Y-" card. You're off base here.
Bruh, get outta my face with this childish crap.
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What is this "destroyed forever" thing. That he shouldn't be allowed a platform to yell out racist and bigoted things means that "he's destroyed forever"? His ability to seek or receive help is not dependent on him having a platform to yell out and do stupid, racist things.
Lots of people from all around the world lose their jobs for spewing racist and bigoted things, why should this guy deserve any better than the rest of them?
Sometimes it's incredibly hard to get decent mental help. My mother is schizophrenic and it took almost10 years of being taken into the hospital every week or so by the cops just for them to let her go despite her continuously threatening to hurt herself and others. People like to say get help but the help isn't always willing to be got.
Just hope he gets help. Thats really all anyone can do tbh, even the people close to him are pushed away and lied to.
I didn't watch all of each video and whatever livesteams.
So I didn't see him express his desire to kill himself to the cops, but yeah he could've
To be clear, I meant that the way he was sometimes close to antagonizing them felt like something you do when you want to die by provoking police into shooting you. It's a known method of attempting suicide.
He really needs help.
At this rate, it's only a matter time before he gets himself or someone else hurt or worst, killed.
At this rate, it's only a matter time before he gets himself or someone else hurt or worst, killed.
Etika craves attention.
The more we give it to him, the more he's likely to behave in this way.
The more we give it to him, the more he's likely to behave in this way.
Given recent events, I have to think that the police were extra alarmed that he was live streaming. Some of these mass shooters want a live audience now. A standard confrontation with police is dangerous enough. He's fortunate that he wasn't hurt or killed.
This guy just needs to be removed from social media, for his own good. He's been melting down for a long time and his idiot fans think that it's cute. Well it's not cute, he's mentally ill and needs help and people egging him on for entertainment is disgusting.
Yeah?
No, if someone is actually harming others with their speech, then in general they should be told to stop it, however, in my opinion, Etika isn't harming anyone except himself, therefore asking him to cease his talk is....not worth it, counter-productive, not actually dealing with his more important problems like his mental health? Back to the homeless guy....idgaf whats hes saying cause it does not affect me in any way, aside from me walking further away from him (i.e Etika is only burning himself at this point, everyone bitching about whatever hes saying, dude's got more serious problems and all you can do is go tut tut at him?)
Basically, the more influence you have, the more responsibility you have for your actions and words since they potentially affect more people. I can feel empathy for him, but still think hes needs to apologize and show remorse if he is actively negatively influencing others, except in my opinion (aside from the few strange people), I don't think anyone is looking at Etika as a beacon to follow. So, theres no point in saying things like he needs to take responsibility for his words, and this is where my empathy for him kicks in, Etika, whatever hes dealing with, I hope he gets better. I mean, if your gonna comment about the crappy stuff he is saying, while ignoring the fact hes running straight into the ground, that seems a bit callous to me.
I actually do and you get zero say. It's cute that you think you do. 😏
You're The one foaming with the meltdowns and ridiculous amount of posts in the thread.
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He's a youtuber, so he has followers that listen to what he says by definition, doesn't he?
It's just speculation to say nobody listens to his bigoted shit.
Some people were saying he was supportive of LGBT+ causes in the past. Maybe he decided to burn down his career, alienate and shut out his friends and colleagues, and get detained by the police and he's doing so perfectly sane but I feel like you gotta have to think, "what's going with his mind?"
That's a whole another line of argument. I'm not saying mental illness can't affect what he does, just that as a youtuber he definitely have people that listen to him.
OP
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Swat guy:"people are worried about your safety... That's why I'm here. That's why I have a shield" at 20:15
wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcrSuWDzFE8
wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcrSuWDzFE8
He needs to have his social accounts temporarily suspended or something.
His internet activity is actively fuelling his issues.
His internet activity is actively fuelling his issues.
This is so depressing to see. I wonder how much of Etika's mental illness went under the radar because of his personality. Sometimes he would be watching character reveals and his heart rate would go up to the upper 100s. He's always been incredibly hyperactive. I hope he's able to get some treatment.
Also, I understand that mental illness is often used as an excuse to do shitty things, but in this case Etika is obviously not well. People say things they don't mean when they're having a mental breakdown. I'm not saying that excuses him, but at least wait for him to get a bit better before you start judging.
Also, I understand that mental illness is often used as an excuse to do shitty things, but in this case Etika is obviously not well. People say things they don't mean when they're having a mental breakdown. I'm not saying that excuses him, but at least wait for him to get a bit better before you start judging.
I use to think the same tbh ,but after seeing him get out and still act the same way I'm starting to believe he is doing it for fame and he got what exactly he wants. He even tweeted about being on number 1 trending on tweeter.
Yeah this is manipulative and I have 0 sympathy for him now.
Oh, I jumped into conclusion after watching a video of SWAT breaking into his house. So they're just escorting him? My mistake.
Medical treatment is by consent as per the Hippocratic oath.
If he doesn't want treatment, it is exceptionally hard to force it unless if there's a clear and present danger to others.
In mental health there's ways around it to override this but they're still difficult and it's common for people to refuse treatment.
The attention and pressure of a constant online presence has clearly had an awful effect here and Ekita must get help and reconsider his path in life before it runs into catastrophe.
Hopefully once he realises what he's been doing and gets himself back into the right place, he can address his actions and learn from them so to avoid repeating the self destructive behaviour that precipitated this.
The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
In a warped state of mind, the attention albeit completely negative is craved and the more they get it, the more they act in escalation of erratic behaviour.
If that's indeed the case here, it could be a psychological form of Munchausen. If the cycle continues as is, and repeated events of extreme behaviour leading to police/hospitalisation occurs, this may well be so.
The attention brought to him by the internet may well have caused him to seek the attention more and more, and thus having to outdo previous events to gain even more attention. That sounds like selfish attention seeking and it is, but it's also the sign of someone whose control of their self has slipped and the addiction of attention has taken over.
Ekita needs help, but what you describe isn't untrue either.
Sorry to hear about it.
There's no forced hospitalization by a third person in USA ? even just for a few days ?
The slurs look like self-destruction, well, social media image self-destruction, and reveling in it.
Destructive pulsion can go towards his internet life.
It seems fragile/breakable yet it's unmoving ; his fans will still continue to echo him. A distorted echo of a web-celeb. He can't break it. Few of many is still a crowd.
For each breakdown, he's also back on the news. Maybe that contradiction of destruction and fame is what he's looking for.
A kind of joke at his own expense.
Destructive pulsion can go towards his internet life.
It seems fragile/breakable yet it's unmoving ; his fans will still continue to echo him. A distorted echo of a web-celeb. He can't break it. Few of many is still a crowd.
For each breakdown, he's also back on the news. Maybe that contradiction of destruction and fame is what he's looking for.
A kind of joke at his own expense.
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Yes, just like here in the UK. I know as a friend who visited the US found themselves in a mental hospital there after a breakdown as a unconsenting patient.
But it's not as easy as "lock him away boys". There must be a clear danger to override consent and if the person is judged to be of sound enough mind to understand consent, it's not going to be overridden easily.
The law probably hasn't caught up to the the thing Etika knows, that doxing yourself on the internet, especially as a streamer, is a danger to yourself and others.
There's forced hospitalization, but you need to be a physical threat. Think Amanda Bynes setting someone's driveway on fire.
It's so bizarre how we lack compassion for people who haven't hit absolute rock bottom yet. But when they do, we say that we wish we could've done something.
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