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I'm really excited about Nintendo-only gamers being introduced to Dark Souls
- Thread starter Neiteio
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When I read this part I was thinking 'hmm I see where you are going with this', and then when I see you put down MGSV and Doom this thread immediately got my attention because I absolutely adore all three of these games. You've done an awesome job with this thread and I hope everyone goes out and buys it in May. Also I'm convinced you have a similar taste in games to me, so now I want you to dig into your brain and tell me some other games that fit this criteria so I can go buy them.
Because I have a limited budget and if I have to choose, I prefer Nintendo games. Next.
If someone liked Metroid + Prime or Castlevania/Metroidvania games then boy do you need to play Dark Souls it will fit right at home, after playing BB and DS3 i thought why did i not get into this franchise way earlier.
Never played 1 yet, but i am sure it will be a blast. I can finally ecperience those awesome bosses i always see mentioned online.
And due to handheld mode i will probably play new game + over and over xD.
Never played 1 yet, but i am sure it will be a blast. I can finally ecperience those awesome bosses i always see mentioned online.
And due to handheld mode i will probably play new game + over and over xD.
Honestly, I hope people who've never played Souls before give it a chance.
It's one of the few games worth experiencing with a busy online community. And there's to be fair, there's nothing really like your first Souls game and experiencing and understanding all the pieces of the moving puzzle, that is the game.
It's a fantastic experience.
It's one of the few games worth experiencing with a busy online community. And there's to be fair, there's nothing really like your first Souls game and experiencing and understanding all the pieces of the moving puzzle, that is the game.
It's a fantastic experience.
gonna double dip on ps4 and Switch oh ya
Well, I've beaten every Souls game except for 2 (kind of got sidetracked along the way), but I'm eager to replay every title.
Similar to what a journalist said about DOOM, these are some of the most "nintendo-feeling" games they would never make. Lovely series (DeS =DaS >> DS3>>>>>>>BB).
Similar to what a journalist said about DOOM, these are some of the most "nintendo-feeling" games they would never make. Lovely series (DeS =DaS >> DS3>>>>>>>BB).
I can't even begin to fathom what exactly you mean with the bolded.
Also, it's their loss if people are only having contact with souls games through the Switch release. Anyone with more than a passing interest in games should already know what this series is and should've checked some of the entries out.
I'm not Neiteio, but I get what he means and understand what he sees in these games (well, I love them as well), my recommendation would be: Resident Evil 6 or Revelations 2.
I don't see why. The same way people weren't 'obligated' to buy a PS3 for Demon's Souls, people aren't obligated to have played any of the others.
Maybe this will push some Nintendo-only fans to pick up a PS4 for Bloodborne.
More people getting a great game is always a good thing.
Because I do not need to play other consoles to be "happy".
Heck, in all 5 PS systems, in all those years, I found just only one game that I wanted to play.
Since 2010 I do not care at all with other systems. I am totally satisfied playing only in Nintendo systems and do not know why people think that this is surprising.
Not really.
If I am interested in Nintendo only games, I am still interested in games. I do not need to know about everygame out there.
I don't see where exactly I said that people are obligated to buy a console or even a game. I said that people who are interested in games in general should know already what souls-games are about and should've formed their opinion whether it's for them or not, be it through videos, streams or any other of the resources at their disposal. It's been close to 7 years since Dark Souls was released, I find it very hard that anyone in this forum, for instance, has had no sort of glimpse into this series before now. And if somehow these people were waiting for it to be ported to a platform of their preference, I don't think they are all that interested in the games.
Great OP. I'm really excited to see a rush of new players when it comes out. We should probably have a "first time player" thread or something like that for help and spoiler free discussion/first impressions.
I'm also interested to see what Zelda fans think. Especially Majora's Mask fans, I feel DS hits a lot of the same tone the MM goes for and DS' combat is somewhat like a more complex version of Zelda's with the sword and shield focus. I always loved fighting the Darknuts/Iron Knuckles in Zelda so the combat in DS really hit the right spot for me.
I'm also interested to see what Zelda fans think. Especially Majora's Mask fans, I feel DS hits a lot of the same tone the MM goes for and DS' combat is somewhat like a more complex version of Zelda's with the sword and shield focus. I always loved fighting the Darknuts/Iron Knuckles in Zelda so the combat in DS really hit the right spot for me.
The greatest lie the devil ever told was that Dark Souls was like Zelda.
Biggest load of horseshit I've ever experienced.
If you're interested because you heard the same, it's not true. It has a couple of mechanics (like Z-targeting) but the gameplay loops are absolutely nothing alike
Biggest load of horseshit I've ever experienced.
If you're interested because you heard the same, it's not true. It has a couple of mechanics (like Z-targeting) but the gameplay loops are absolutely nothing alike
I misunderstood your post, sorry. Because you said this:
I took the last line to mean if someone really cared, they'd have tried one of them, i.e. they wouldn't have just one platform.
However, I still don't really get your point. If someone only ever gets Nintendo systems, why bother checking out games that had never been announced for a Nintendo system? They'd never get to play them anyway. Now one is announced, they can check it out and see if it's for them. That's cool to me.
It's like Zelda, as in The Legend of Zelda, for the NES.
I can see that because Resident Evil 4 is also one of my favourite games of all time. Why Revelations 2 in particular?
Maybe I wasn't too clear, but I meant that even if they only own Nintendo platforms, they would've at least seen videos of the game or played it at a friend's house. Sure, if it clicked for them, I don't think they should have waited for a port. I mean, it's similar to wanting to play a Mario game yet waiting for it to be released elsewhere.
I find it hard to believe that there are people who will absolutely refuse to read or otherwise consume media regarding a game simply because it won't come out on their preferred platform. I mean, what's wrong about broadening one's horizons a bit? They might even find games that are worthy of them seeking out a different platform.
Are you trying to scare people off dude?
If they like skeletons so much they wanna see mroe of them at the beginning of the game...R.I.P.
I don't want to know how many people went in that direction and never considered going somehere else and stopped playing lol.
1. Y'all so cringy.
2. I'd twink the fuck out of every beginner huehuehue.
Well, the proof is in the pudding. There are people right here in this thread that are seemingly in that situation.
Personally, I'm always looking for games that might interest me, and I have very low sales resistance, so I'll buy a platform for a single game, but I don't think that's really a better approach than self-imposed horse blinders.
I wholeheartedly agree although I fear that about 50% of Switch owners will buy it, whine that it's too hard and a waste of money after an hour or two of playing it, then criticise it at every available opportunity.
Both are generally not true. Those games are very different.
Not true. These games are nothing like Dark Souls and Bloodbourne. You can like all those games but there is no correlation between liking the former and the latter. They play nothing alike.
No, it is not. It has more in common with Super Mario Bros 2 jpn / The Lost Levels.
I would really appreciate it if people would stop with the game comparisons. They are quite misleading and only result in false expectations of the game.
Dark Souls games are Dark Souls games. They are rather unique. There is no connection to other games except other "Souls-like" games.
There are no games X that are not "Souls-like" where the sentence "If you like/love X you will like/love Dark Souls" is generally true.
They are different but I already saw plenty of examples (including this thread) where people love DS and Zelda.
Didn't play much of Souls 1, as I didn't really get it at the time. Souls 2 was where it clicked, so I'm glad to be able to go back and really engage with Souls 1.
Well the world structure gives me a metroid like feeling that's why and the quality ofbthe world building feels simular that's why i like it so much and get to that relation.
Also there is a bit of sense of progression sure not the same at all but still.
Great OP, and I agree completely that Nintendo fans will find a lot to love in Dark Souls. Especially Dark Souls 1, though the whole trilogy is great.
And your example of DOOM is spot on, honestly both Dark Souls and DOOM have felt like some of the most "Nintendo-ey" non-Nintendo games I've ever played due to the extremely polished and precise gameplay mechanics. The only area where Dark Souls would probably frustrate most Nintendo fans would be in UI and QOL, since it's an extremely obtuse game to figure out. Hopefully in the remaster they'll clarify a lot of this.
And your example of DOOM is spot on, honestly both Dark Souls and DOOM have felt like some of the most "Nintendo-ey" non-Nintendo games I've ever played due to the extremely polished and precise gameplay mechanics. The only area where Dark Souls would probably frustrate most Nintendo fans would be in UI and QOL, since it's an extremely obtuse game to figure out. Hopefully in the remaster they'll clarify a lot of this.
I enjoyed the time I spent with Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3, but I play so cautiously and advance so slowly that I lost interest in both well before the end.
I'm hoping getting this on Switch will allow me to pour more time into it.
I'm hoping getting this on Switch will allow me to pour more time into it.
Well I disagree.
For me, DkS1 is the game most evocative of the original Zelda. If not for you, that's fine, but it doesn't make my experience any less valid.
Actually that's a pretty good comparison. Enemy placement is very much so a memorization thing like that, so yeah I'd say that works.
The fact that you wind up dying so much really helps implant those placements in your memory too.
I've never played DS or BB, but plan to do so on Switch. Thank for creating this thread OP. Some interesting facts.
Can you explain the reasoning for this to me please? It's something I've only ever seen from Nintendo fans and I find it baffling. Why is having Nintendo characters / outfits in games that have nothing whatsoever to do with Nintendo so important?
I believe that there are quite a few people that like both games, but there is little correlation between the games. It is better to describe which particular aspects of both games you liked and feel are similar. Stories of Zelda and Souls games are very different, as is the atmosphere in both franchises. Dark Souls does not follow the Zelda formula and progression. Combat is only slightly similar.
Well, this is a better description of your opinion, thank you.
But for everyone else interested I'm listing some differences.
There is no platforming in Dark Souls. Combat is basically melee only and very slow. (Maybe this changes with magic which I have not tired) You are also moving really slow. I have not encountered any progression gated by acquiring useful items (Missiles, Double Jump, Bat form,... Metroidvania formula)
I did not say your experience is invalid. You might feel the same way with Dark Souls as with The Legend of Zelda. I will not argue that. But you did not equate your experiences with the two games before, but the games themselves. And the games are not alike. They are not even similar. Gameplay is completely different. 2D vs 3D. No Zelda formula in Dark Souls. Completely different combat. Progression through the world is not similar. Similarities might be in NPC and story sparseness, the general 'action' category for both games and having boss fights. And liking one does not automatically lead to liking the other.
Also a key difference between Dark Souls and basically every other game:
Other games are benevolent towards the player and mostly fair. Dark Souls is not. Dark Souls hates the player with a passion. It is a game designed by a pissed-off, vengeful Dungeon Master that wants to see all characters die. And tries his best around every corner and in every room with enemies, traps and architecture. (like the lost levels)
I both agree and disagree with this. Dark Souls is designed around the player dying, yes, but I would not say it's unfair in any way. Dying is actually a very real progression mechanic in Dark Souls, and almost always it's not all that punishing.
The game constantly throws new, unexpected things at you which will likely cause you to die, but that doesn't mean it's unfair.
Dark souls is like a 3-D metroidvania with well-paced, hitbox centric combat.
I think Nintendo fans would LOVE it
I think Nintendo fans would LOVE it
I completely disagree.
They want you to be careful, not to keep dying constantly. You're meant to learn that the world is hostile, so be slow, be careful, be conservative. I've gone through entire levels in the Souls games without dying once. It's not some inherent requirement to be killed.
Moreover, the first two Zeldas are brutally difficult. Way way harder than DkS1 to me. Yeah, they've been a cake walk since LttP, but those first two are seriously challenging.
It really isn't. I could see some similarities I suppose, but the two are very different beasts.
In general games of that era are extremely hard because the player is so limited in what they can do. In Zelda 1 you can move in four directions and use two buttons. In Zelda 2 you can move in 2 directions, jump and attack. And duck I guess.
In Dark Souls you have a far, far higher number of input mechanics at your disposal. In most modern games that's the case really. Those Zelda games probably would've been far easier if the technology was there to allow the developers to make them easier.
I'm Nintendo only, and I'm pretty sure there are lots. I know people who only play Nintendo to limit their play time and backlogs, for example.
Yeah they exist by the literal tens of thousands.
"Family friendly."
I'm excited too for those who haven't played the series. I have also have a PS4 but am going to get the remaster on Switch regardless of FPS or whatever. The option to take it out of the living room will be great for me and I hope sales for this title are huge on Switch so more releases like this will happen.
Nintendo only gamers still baffle me in the sense they are a lot less enthusiastic about 3rd party games that are on their platform.
I like Nintendo because they are a game company first moreso than a spectacle company but there are 3rd parties that offer good gameplay experiences.
Noooooot really.
Don't know who told you that, but is not an apt comparison.
The condescension towards people who will play this game for the first on Switch is amazingly hilarious.
There's quite many similarities from the methodical movement to the restricted item usage and management. Both series reward careful planning and punish the player for any mistakes.
There's quite many similarities from the methodical movement to the restricted item usage and management. Both series reward careful planning and punish the player for any mistakes.
I personally have been in a financial hole for the last 7 or so years, after the Wii and DS I was only really able to afford a 2DS at 120 euros, and only own like 10 games for it. So yeah, I do, and even if I have missed out on a ton of games, my 2010 PC has at least let me play most indie games up to 2015 if they are not too demanding.
Edit: I quoted one person, when everyone in this thread has asked the same question. Jeez guys not everyone can afford options, or even go for the obvious PS4. It took till 2017 to get as cheap as possible, and even then its not the case over here. I shouldn't even be considering it tbqh, but I do get some disposable burst of income that I can spend without worry, and I prefer buying the occasional 3DS game or saving up for a Switch, then buying a PS4 for a few select RPGs I would want to play.
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I own a PS4 and Switch but pre-ordered this on Switch. Being able to play Dark Souls on a portable won out over 60 fps. I may end up double dipping if the performance on switch in handheld mode is awful. Having played all the Soulsborne games, this one is far and away the best one to me and I'm incredibly happy to not need my 360 anymore to experience it.