This is their pinned tweet. I knew all this standing up for racism by many companies last year was some PR exercise.
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IGN releases new "both sides" statement to apologize for previously supporting Palestine
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i believe "tough shit" applies here. they are either being overruled by the money men which makes anything they say suspect or they are just personal-level cowards.
No you never said he was THE one to take it down, just you thought he had something to do with. Since we are talking about genocide and war crimes I personally would not accuse someone of that without proof.
Colin has been talking about Ryan being on his podcast for weeks now. Could be an interesting listen, but will likely only be available via Patreon.
You gonna have to explain why because there is nothing interesting about two white dudes with questionable politics having a conversation.
So what if he has been talking for weeks?
Surely you see how being involved with an alt right podcast that were trying to downplay genocide is suspect?
Dont agree with this at all. IGN staffers made a courageous effort that was clearly reversed by their corporate owners. We should punish them for this? They need to be able to decide how they proceed without pressure from us. Let J2 Global know how you feel about this, I think that's enough for now.
yeah i'm sure it will be really "interesting" to hear two ben shapiro types jerk each other off via podcast, uh huh
America is likely the problem here, as they are one of the biggest supporters of Israel...
That's true but ultimately it's a protest against IGN not their writers. Its unfortunate they've been caught up in this but if they are silent from now I'd argue they're complicit.
For anyone that wants to boycott their services, they are listed under 'brands' on their website
https://www.ziffdavis.com/
If you are in regular use of any of these and want to boycott, I'd suggest sending an email as well, specifying why.
https://www.ziffdavis.com/
If you are in regular use of any of these and want to boycott, I'd suggest sending an email as well, specifying why.
I think we should. It sucks for the employees who really wanted to do good in this situation, what boycotting is the only thing that has a chance of getting the owner's attention.
I actually like they got out there and said a thing. It started a wave of similar outlets doing it. If they are strongarmed back from their original statement, it cannot be unsaid, especially in the fast moving world of the internet. That's the important thing. Shows that outlets are willing to stand up for the bollocking that putting out a statement carries with it, meaning that the next thing that happens, others will be inclined to speak their minds. There is only so much quashing of the media that can be done, if you get to a point where everybody is making a stand, then the fire is much harder to put out.
At least now, the ire is being directed to J2 and they can be visibly dragged. Every PR post will now carry the weight of the internet pulling it down.
It's their livelihoods, though.
On the other hand -- us letting the owners getting away with it might not be what the staff wants. It's kinda like we've left them out to dry.
IGN Isreal literally sided with IDF like it was a damn red vs blue game. Sickening what they get away with. Glad it was taken down but you know their office was pissed the US branch showed humanitarian support on the matter. Some petty shit "oh they want to play this game? We can play it too!"
I'm sure you mean well and have good intentions, so sorry if I come across as being harsh. But never call this a conflict, because it's not. It's really simple:
It's a genocide, ethnic cleansing from one side who is pulling the strings in the region, has the 4th most powerful army in the world and has the (financial) backing of the US and a big chunk of Europe. The other side is an oppressed country of people for over 70 years, with literally no one to back them in any way, no army, just a bunch of rocks thrown by teenagers and at best some homemade rockets and they're living in the biggest open air prison in the entire world.
Also a good read if you want to know the situation:
FAQ | Decolonize Palestine
Welcome to the Decolonize Palestine FAQ. Here you will find answers to the most commonly asked questions regarding the Palestinian question.decolonizepalestine.com
Thanks for the resource, and yeah it did come off as a little harsh as we seem to agree, and Era would be a more pleasant place in general if people were at least able to admit when they're speaking on a subject they don't have a nuanced understanding of, which is why I said I'm not as informed on this subject as I'm sure others are
Nevertheless, as I said in my first post, I find it abhorrent how politicians and corporations in general can "both sides" this, when it looks like what you have described. I apologise if I caused any offence, I meant conflict in a neutral way, as "there is a conflict between two parties", I didn't mean to imply that it's a just or fair conflict, as it's clearly not justified or fair, but I also think that would be a really uncharitable interpretation of my post
I will look over your link when I have some more free time though, so thanks again for that
If the staffers/journalists got fired for it then definitely.
But not now given those staffers/journalists are still employed by IGN and what they initially did was courageous.
A passing acquaintance sent me some shit about "Jews controlling the world behind the scenes". Couldn't believe it but made sure to ask him for receipts. I haven't blocked him but I did make sure to call him a "fucking idiot". As unbelievably abhorrent Israel's actions have been, are and, very probably, will continue to be... That conspiratorial bullshit serves no purpose.
There is nothing wrong with raising awareness. It's not like they cancelled their game coverage to make room for this
Maybe you should stick to threads discussing video games and not these threads if you want to make stupid comments
Found one in the wild! What a sight to behold...
PS: It's beautiful when idiots like you think genocide = politics.
I don't understand why people want to ban IGN or boycott them.
This is what happens if you present a different narrative on the Israel/Palestine conflict for a US company.
The debate is so ridiculous and one sided that I am happy that they showed even the little support for Palestine that they did. You can see these views and points in a lot of countries, but its just not possible in America currently or in the foreseeable future IMO. Supporting Israel and thereby the occupation is not up for debate here.
I applaud people on this forum for trying to improve things or at least trying to be ethical and point out when someone is doing or saying something wrong, but I don't see anything changing on this subject anytime soon. Its not even an option as I see it.
This is what happens if you present a different narrative on the Israel/Palestine conflict for a US company.
The debate is so ridiculous and one sided that I am happy that they showed even the little support for Palestine that they did. You can see these views and points in a lot of countries, but its just not possible in America currently or in the foreseeable future IMO. Supporting Israel and thereby the occupation is not up for debate here.
I applaud people on this forum for trying to improve things or at least trying to be ethical and point out when someone is doing or saying something wrong, but I don't see anything changing on this subject anytime soon. Its not even an option as I see it.
They'd probably get fired before it even got to that. Hell, I'd be surprised if they haven't been fired already.
100% this.
The people who got it posted in the first place are essentially on someone at management's shit list for doing what they did. If people want to shit on IGN, they need to realise the current staffers (excluding any managers or execs) there are still the same people who got this message of support out in the first place, against all odds and kept it there for as long as they could.
Can IGN's review scores even be trusted anymore? How do we know the reviews submitted haven't been altered by pressure from J2 Global if it reflects negatively on a key sponsor?
How can any aspect of their coverage be trusted after this?
How can any aspect of their coverage be trusted after this?
Would you be willing to lose a job that could be worth anywhere up to $100k because your corporate owners deleted the Tweet, for an act that would do absolutely nothing for anyone?
A few(?) editors broke ranks and put up an article that they probably knew was going to be deleted when the higher-ups got involved. That was enough.
Straight up horrid clown shoes coming from the higher-ups there.
"We stand with the oppressed, as long as they have money."
"We stand with the oppressed, as long as they have money."
This, I'm glad the actual employees are still making a stand where they can despite the opposition from their higher-ups.
These types of "both sides" messages from large corporations always have the same outcome: express sympathy for a conflict but inevitably side with the perspective of the state in charge.
It's just your usual stock standard PR fluff. Inoffensive and toothless, bereft of actual perspective.
It's just your usual stock standard PR fluff. Inoffensive and toothless, bereft of actual perspective.