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If Final Fantasy VII Remake had no overworld, would you be mad?
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I don't want it to be open world. But I do want it to find a way to get the same sense of exploration, traversing long distances and going to any town you want in any order. You can have similar elements, but what I dont want is fetch quests, hidden collectibles scattered, resource gathering and pretty much any other "open world" in the modern sense of the word bullshit you can think of. I'm really curious to how they will manage this part of the game.
You kinda stacked the deck against yourself by using the wrong terminology. I think most people would prefer an OVERWORLD, but calling it 'open world' makes people think of FFXV's kind of open world, which FFVII could not possibly be done in.
It would be gross if FFVII Remake was open world. I don't want that shit. Even the most ardent Ubisoft fanboy doesn't want that shit.
That's the problem. It shouldn't be Ubisoft open world but FFX's world map style fucking sucked and FFXII's did too. The games need a sense of scale and continuity and just having the entire game world be a bunch of interconnected field maps with no actual connective tissue just ruins the experience, destroys sidequesting and makes exploration impossible.
FFVII needs an overworld. Period.
From this I pictured it being like the Donkey Kong Country level select overworld, haha.
All Final Fantasy games, and almost all RPGs as a whole, are really linear. It just helped that the old style overworlds gave an illusion of freedom.
No open world sounds terrific and refreshing. BoTW lacks interesting dungeons, nothing is MGSV was as memorable as Big Shell or Shadow Moses, Attissia was the only place I remember in FF XV. A semi linear world more likely means each location is better developed. Kingdom Hearts 3 guided levels were very confortable to get into and very replayable.
The original overworld with a bigger scale and sense of awe. Type-0 knows what's up.
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Midgar ain't going to be open world. Expanded from it's original linearity a bit (in places) but I'd imagine the structure to be more like Uncharted 4 than Witcher 3/GTA. So dungeons and other segments can be fairly linear (with some branching paths/dead ends) and then there will be some city streets in Midgar that allow a bit of wandering around in the region of a few blocks and then it'll narrow down to a more linear section again. And exiting Midgar can offer a larger outdoor environment that is a bit more open world-ish, before it narrows down to a more linear path once you arrive to the next dungeon & town.
This is how Tales does it nowadays and it's just terrible. The "field" areas just feel like themed carnival zones you have to walk through instead of actually traversing a full world.
I expect a hybrid like FFXV, but I'd prefer a linear game/greatest hits of FVII & FFVII compilation titles.
When you say overworld you just mean a glorified map you can traverse with random battles and landmarks to visit, correct?
You actually have to be able to explore it, yes. Vs. the FFX style of "here's a list, you teleport wherever you want to go" nonsense.
Those two are not the same thing. I want an overworld but don't want the game to be open world. Thus the poll results.
I don't think it'll be open world. Although it could potentially HAVE something that feels a lot like an open world. I'm really excited to see how they approach it.
I don't agree that's SE have tried to make FF a more linear experience though. Only Toriyama's games did that, and he's just the worst.
I don't agree that's SE have tried to make FF a more linear experience though. Only Toriyama's games did that, and he's just the worst.
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Yeah I am realizing that I fubar'd the vocabulary. I am more referring to the "overworld" more than an "open world".
Would you be mad if there was no "overworld". Could a mod change the title to that?
I imagine/hope FFVIIR's will have a bit more effort put into it all and it should avoid those pitfalls.
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Yeah the ship in FFX controlled so well. It was effortless to go from point A to Point B.
Yeah, I'd be disappointed if there was no overworld and it was just some FFX-like corridors and map menu. Midgar needs to end with us entering an open space that offers a sense of "this journey is just beginning". It doesn't have to be massive, but just open enough that it offers some sense of exploration & traversal.
This. Making it OW would make the story significantly weaker.
EDIT ohhhh OP was talking about having a traversable world map vs a point and click menu!
Could a mod edit the title please?
You can't do airships or vehicles on FFXII-style maps, though. And vehicles are a huge part of FFVII.
Well I did not play Spider-man on PS4 but I believe there is the subway scene that works as a loading scene for moving on other places. We could see the same thing in FFVIIR. But yeah, I'm curious how they will do for cars and airships.
Right, you could have the vehicles just be a loading screen, but it kinda destroys any of the majesty of getting an airship or a submarine if all it is is just a glorified loading screen, y'know? The Highwind moment in FFVII was a huge deal!
I mean they lost me when they threw away the menu-based and turn based combat anyway but I still voted.