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Huge victory for LGBT rights as Supreme Court rules protections in the Civil Rights Act extend to sexual orientation and gender identity

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Kellyanne Conway on Fox says "I'm not going to get into the merits" of the Supreme Court's decision today on LGBTQ rights - but says courts should "stick to the statutes" and says if Congress wants to change the law, it should​

1:13 PM - Jun 15, 2020
 
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I'm from the U.K. so,don't know much about the American Supreme Court.

but isn't how they are chosen and manipulated completely and utterly corrupt and undemocratic?
 
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This is amazingly good news, and it will likely lead to more protections down the line. And personally, seeing conservative media lose their shit over this gives me life. I could sustain myself for weeks on the salt alone.
 

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limerobot said:
I'm from the U.K. so,don't know much about the American Supreme Court.

but isn't how they are chosen and manipulated completely and utterly corrupt and undemocratic?
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No not really. It was for Gorsuch but not typically. Nominated by the president then confirmed by the Senate. Senate just pulled a bit of a coup in 2016 to delay Obama's nom from being confirmed.
 
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I mean im shocked because of the polarization of our politics, but it makes sense on every level that it shouldnt happen. time for these things to be enshrined in law.
 
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Just Alito comparing same-sex attraction to "the urge to rape" in the dissenting opinion.
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In a sane country, this would be ground for automatic disbarment.
 
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This shouldn't have happened in this administration, yet here we are! It's a good day today!
 

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Lots of ppl don't seem aware that this isn't solving everything, as just recently plenty of religious discrimination for LGBt adoptions opened up and healthcare got fucked for LGBT ppl last week...

this ruling doesn't make any decisions on religious reasons and there's many more wins needed to stop what Trump is doing

Still, this is nice to have. Florida and many other states have long been smart enough not to give this as a reason for firing though.
 

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This shouldn't have happened in this administration, yet here we are! It's a good day today!
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I'm certain that Trump must've thought personally appointing two justices for the Supreme Court would've helped get his fucked up shit pushed through, I'm damn glad this was NOT the scenario that happened with this SCOTUS ruling where his personal appointee Gorsuch ruled in favor of expanding the legal interpretation of Title VII to protect LGBT people.
 
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This victory should also apply to healthcare as well right? Cant Trumps rule on discrimination applying to trans people now be overturned?
 
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Pirate Bae said:
I am genuinely shocked. Thank you, Gorsuch, for doing the right thing.

Thomas and Alito need to fucking retire. They've been anti-progressive assholes for years.
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Thomas and Alito can retire when the WH and Senate change hands! Don't need Trump and McConnell to push another pair of 50-year-old federalist society shitheads onto the bench.
 
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So was the decision made recently or awhile ago and just released now? Or is the decision released quickly after it is made? I'm just confused about how it works.
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The process can be roughly simplified as this:
- Oral arguments happen.
- Judges take a vote on how they decide, usually within days of oral arguments if no other documents are to come.
- One of the "winners" takes on the effort of writing the decision and lead the effort of getting everyone's input or disagreements. This part can take months.
 

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Alito always was scum. Fitting that the court's two likely rapists, Kavanaugh and Thomas represent the remainder of the hateful three. Surprised to see Roberts join the majority, shocked to see Gorsuch join as well. Then again, Gorsuch can be a bit unpredictable at times even though he's still far right overall.
 

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limerobot said:
I'm from the U.K. so,don't know much about the American Supreme Court.

but isn't how they are chosen and manipulated completely and utterly corrupt and undemocratic?
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Not usually, they are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. This is basically how it worked in the last 100 years or so, until Obama's last term where he tried to nominated a judge and McConnell blocked him with a Republican Senate majority by refusing to confirm his pick for the court. They did this until Trump won, who then filled that seat with Gorsuch.

This is kind of a perfect example of WHY the court is hard to manipulate though, all that fuckery with Gorsuch and he has still ruled against Republican interests a few times. Overall he is still an extremely conservative judge and imo pretty terrible, but once justices are on the court that aren't beholden to anyone. Roberts an even better example, because he was appointed by Bush yet breaks ranks with the conservatives a decent amount, usually on civil liberties issues.

There are many problems with the modern court, but it's definitely the least corrupt of the 3 major branches of US government
 
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clevbrowns95 said:
Alito always was scum. Fitting that the court's two likely rapists, Kavanaugh and Thomas represent the remainder of the hateful three. Surprised to see Roberts join the majority, shocked to see Gorsuch join as well. Then again, Gorsuch can be a bit unpredictable at times even though he's still far right overall.
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Roberts is concerned with his legacy in US history. Doesn't make him a good Justice, mind, but does mean that he'll use his wiggle room in cases that are likely to be recorded going forward.
 
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Great news for you lovely folks over there! Hopefully this leads to greater things for the LGBT+ community, and it's a relief to have this after the bullshit pulled the other day.
 

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Roberts is concerned with his legacy in US history. Doesn't make him a good Justice, mind, but does mean that he'll use his wiggle room in cases that are likely to be recorded going forward.
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Agreed. I think based on this case and his concern about judicial independence, he's going to join the liberals to rule against Trump on the subpoena issue.
 
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Is this the first good news to come from 2020?

I've forgotten what that concept is like.
 
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That's more than a little surprising with everything that's been happening recently, but I'll take it
 
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It sucks that my first reaction to this as an American living under this administration is surprise, but I'm also elated that it happened. This is huge, and is a big swing against some of the injustices this country is riddled with. Such a relief.
 
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Any victory for LGBTQ rights is a victory for humanity. Really happy about this.
 
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Would this ruling extend to the cake maker who refuses to make a cake for a gay couple, for example?
 
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Blader said:
Thomas and Alito can retire when the WH and Senate change hands! Don't need Trump and McConnell to push another pair of 50-year-old federalist society shitheads onto the bench.
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But it's an election year! Surely Mitch McConnell would wait and see what the will of the people decides rather than pushing through a new justice, right?

mcconnell may actually go down as the worst senator in american history, fuck him so much
 

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I'm not sure a non-lawyer/judge has ever actually become a supreme Court justice though.
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From FindLaw:
Supreme Court Justices Without Prior Judicial Experience Before Becoming Justices

Name of Justice Prior Occupations Years On Court Appointed By President:
1. William Rehnquist Asst. U.S. Attorney General 1972-2005 Nixon (Assoc., 1972),
Reagan (Chief, 1986)
2. Lewis Powell President of the American Bar Ass'n,
Private Practice 1972-1987 Nixon
3. Abe Fortas Private Practice 1965-1969 Johnson
4. Byron White Deputy U.S. Attorney General 1962-1993 Kennedy
5. Arthur Goldberg U.S. Secretary of Labor 1962-1965 Kennedy
6. Earl Warren Governor of California 1953-1969 Eisenhower
7. Tom Clark U.S. Attorney General 1949-1967 Truman
8. Harold Burton U.S. Senator 1945-1958 Truman
9. Robert Jackson U.S. Attorney General 1941-1954 F. Roosevelt
10. James Francis Byrnes U.S. Senator 1941-1942 F. Roosevelt
11. William O. Douglas Chairman of the S.E.C. 1939-1975 F. Roosevelt
12. Felix Frankfurter Asst. U.S. Attorney, Asst. Secretary of War,
Prof. of Law at Harvard 1939-1962 F. Roosevelt
13. Stanley Forman Reed U.S. Solicitor General 1938-1957 F. Roosevelt
14. Owen Josephus Roberts Special Counsel in "Teapot Dome" investigation and trials 1930-1945 Hoover
15. Harlan Fiske Stone U.S. Attorney General 1925-1946 Coolidge (Assoc., 1925),
F. Roosevelt (Chief, 1941)
16. Pierce Butler County Attorney, Private Practice 1923-1939 Harding
17. George Sutherland U.S. Senator 1922-1938 Harding
18. Louis Brandeis Private Practice 1916-1939 Wilson
19. James Clark McReynolds U.S. Attorney General 1914-1941 Wilson
20. Charles Evans Hughes Governor of New York,
U.S. Secretary of State 1910-1916,
1930-1941 Taft (Assoc., 1910),
Hoover (Chief, 1930)
21. William Henry Moody U.S. Attorney General 1906-1910 T. Roosevelt
22. George Shiras, Jr Private Practice 1892-1903 Harrison
23. Melville Fuller Private Practice 1888-1910 Cleveland
24. Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar U.S. Secretary of the Interior, U.S. Senator 1888-1893 Cleveland
25. Joseph Philo Bradley Private Practice 1870-1892 Grant
26. Salmon P. Chase U.S. Treasury Secretary 1864-1873 Lincoln
27. Samuel Freeman Miller Private Practice 1862-1890 Lincoln
28. Noah Haynes Swayne U.S. Attorney for Ohio, Ohio Legislator 1862-1881 Lincoln
29. Nathan Clifford Maine & U.S. Attorney General 1858-1881 Buchanan
30. John Archibald Campbell Alabama Legislator 1853-1861 Pierce
31. Benjamin Robbins Curtis Massachusetts Legislator 1851-1857 Fillmore
32. John McKinley U.S. Senator 1838-1852 Van Buren
33. Roger Brooke Taney Maryland & U.S. Attorney General,
U.S. Treasury Secretary 1836-1864 Jackson
34. Henry Baldwin U.S. Congressman 1830-1844 Jackson
35. Joseph Story Speaker of Mass. House of Reps., U.S. Congressman 1812-1845 Madison
36. John Marshall U.S. Secretary of State 1801-1835 Adams
37. Bushrod Washington Virginia House of Delegates,
Reporter for Virginia Court of Appeals 1799-1829 Adams
38. William Paterson Governor of New Jersey 1793-1806 Washington
39. John Jay President of the Continental Congress,
U.S. Secretary of Foreign Affairs 1789-1795 Washington
40. John Rutledge Governor of South Carolina 1789-1791, 1795 Washington
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Edit: Oh you edited your question. Yeah, they have all been lawyers or attended law school.
 
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