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Hillary Clinton: Bernie Sanders ‘was a career politician’, ‘he got nothing done’
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I'm not the biggest fan of Bernie or rose twitter, but man this is petty nonsense.
Ignoring everything else, no one needs dirty laundry between two individuals like this spread to the public, particularly when we really do need a unified front.
Ignoring everything else, no one needs dirty laundry between two individuals like this spread to the public, particularly when we really do need a unified front.
Rich white women with nothing at stake says something to try to undermine the voice of the working class. HRC will always be a failure in my eyes for losing to Donald Trump.
Wow. If there was something done decades ago I wouldn't forgive this is one of them. I wonder how much of the black community is aware of this. It's something I'll have to bring up when my parents speak fondly of the Clintons again because this shit is really bad.Reminder that the Clinton's literally used black slave labour at the Arkansas governors house since it was a long standing Arkansas tradition (wonder how that tradition came about huh)
The Clintons Had Slaves ❧ Current Affairs
<p>But the prison labor system is also rotten to the core… </p>www.currentaffairs.org
Yeah but why choose someone to be your voice that was so damning to the Democratic party. Sirota made sure to retweet that garbage near election day.
And he was pulling the same shit on Beto a year ago. Disingenuous selection of quotes and narratives.
Uh yeah it is true.
The Bernie voters who defected to Trump, explained by a political scientist
A new study found that about 12 percent of Sanders voters from the primary supported Trump in the general election.www.vox.com
12-13% of bernie primary supporters went trump. A whopping 25% of hillary primary supporters ended up going McCain in the GE.
I was in the middle of amending my statement;
Yes, Clinton -> McCain had a larger sizable total (racism),
But if you look at the numbers you see Sanders -> Trump (10.8), Garry Johnson (4.1), Jill Stein (4.5), Other (3.5)
So it's basically a wash, voters had more options and basically went conservative at the same rate as they did with Clinton -> McCain, with more so going third party non-conservative.
come again?
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Hillary is the only transphobe you can stan and not get banned for on this site.
So fervent Bernie supporters want Hillary Clinton to endorse Bernie in a hypothetical general with him as the nominee, but actually, or is it more about the "implication" of her not endorsing Bernie in the general and then extrapolating from there?
centrists don't want to have the same healthcare as poor people. Which is why era always trashed Medicare4all.
Hillary Clinton isn't ready to say if she'd endorse Bernie Sanders in a potential Bernie vs Trump election. That's fucked up.
Even the PSA guys get it!
Because the whole point was that Bernie's perspective wasn't different to other dems at the time which is clearly bullshit? You have a member of congress who's vocal against those racist elements of the bill since it was written? Then you have the majority of dems continuing to want to support those racist parts of the bill? I feel it really isn't difficult to see why the individual may struggle to enact actual change or how it's ludicrous to say they're equally as responsible?
I don't get how trying to justify how the bill was made, not holding those responsible for doing such intentionally, or suggest the member who didn't want it made that way and vocally aired his disgust at the time is no different from them isn't providing an excuse for the racist politicians?
I don't get how you can say you want a radical criminal reform whilst simultaneously shitting on the candidate who's wanted the same throughout his entire life and propping up those that oppose any kind of structural reform as being equal to him?
Your whole point is "I really want what Bernie's said for decades... but we should ignore that guy and put faith in the politicians who still support the bill or have never mentioned it as an issue until maybe recently"
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Facts. She is another standout of a sociopathic FYGM boomer generation.
People need someone better to follow and praise. I'm especially talking to my black and brown brothers and sisters.
Reminder that the Clinton's literally used black slave labour at the Arkansas governors house since it was a long standing Arkansas tradition (wonder how that tradition came about huh)
The Clintons Had Slaves ❧ Current Affairs
<p>But the prison labor system is also rotten to the core… </p>
This isn't and has never been a complete look at the data. 538 has a quarter of Sanders primary voters not voting in the election (either voting 3rd party, abstaining, etc). I'm not saying Clinton had a right to those votes, but the break down is startling.Uh yeah it is true.
The Bernie voters who defected to Trump, explained by a political scientist
A new study found that about 12 percent of Sanders voters from the primary supported Trump in the general election.
12-13% of bernie primary supporters went trump. A whopping 25% of hillary primary supporters ended up going McCain in the GE.
And why should we care what other voters in other primaries did? You're sliding from a progressive to Trump. What the hell.
the shorthand version is that the dem party is "big tent" party which means a bunch of people who aren't conservative enough to be a full on republican are in the same party with progressives and the schism behind the folks who just wanna "hold the line" and try to restore the norms before trump and folks pushing for leftism is getting wider and wider
even if somehow folks "unified" behind a candidate for 2020, this isnt going away and if bernie somehow wins the presidency a lot of the old guard wont be happy.
which imo needs to happen
To be fair, I'm pretty sure there are a decent amount of era members who fancy themselves as new democrats still
I like Bernie's message but he's not going to accomplish any of it without a Senate super majority or a rule change eliminating the filibuster.
But... he wasen't part of the campaign.Yeah but why choose someone to be your voice that was so damning to the Democratic party. Sirota made sure to retweet that garbage near election day.
And he was pulling the same shit on Beto a year ago. Disingenuous selection of quotes and narratives.
You found all these videos but they don't prove your point. They're at best, circumstantial.
"10/31/16 AT 2:07 PM "
November 8, 2016
So you found one legitimate one out of the half dozen you spammed into your post?
Did Sirota even work for Bernie in 2016? I honestly don't know. I do know that he's a journalist and that looks like a legit news story.
Edit: Just looked it up and he didn't. Lol, Hillary stans never change.
User banned (3 days): Inflammatory generalizations.
Time and time again, her and her stans have been exposed as being racist, transphobic, etc.Uh yeah it is true.
The Bernie voters who defected to Trump, explained by a political scientist
A new study found that about 12 percent of Sanders voters from the primary supported Trump in the general election.
12-13% of bernie primary supporters went trump. A whopping 25% of hillary primary supporters ended up going McCain in the GE.
I have great news everyone
You are not forced to read articles, posts, threads or even HULU EXCLUSIVE interviews with politicians you don't like.
You are not forced to read articles, posts, threads or even HULU EXCLUSIVE interviews with politicians you don't like.
Bernie does need Clinton's endorsement because she has a group of loyalists who blame him for her loss and likely would stay home if he's the nominee. But also, it's actually not great to have someone w/ so much influence in the party saying this about a potential candidate.
He tends to frame things from a white working class perspective. Not that he literally refuses to speak to PoC.
Okay, was wondering what the hell that was about. I'm not a fan of how Sanders does that, but that's a bit different from "Doesn't speak to people of color".
Not sure that's true; US Secretaries of State build up phenomenal body counts!
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And you're not forced to cape for slave owners
Can you show me stanning for slave owners?
I would really like to know if I've been stanning for personally defending slave ownership.
Usually making such outlandish accusations is bad manners, but I'm guessing the thread will be open for a few more pages before mods close it up and pretend that the current discourse is unimaginable and totally out of the ordinary.
Read 9 pages in and haven't see it yet so I'll ask.
Hillary won't comment on voting for Bernie "if he won the nomination" because it's still primary season and a positive or negative endorsement would help/hurt someone running?
Not sure how well that flies considering she is taking the time to paint some negatives about Bernie.
Maybe I'm reading this all wrong but from my view over here it's clear that this only hurts one person while helping every other person running for Democrat nominee, so not sure how much I buy into the "not saying anything because it's still primary season" rationale.
It really would be great if Hillary just vanished until elections are over. Democrats fight amongst themselves as it is and didn't need another reason.
Hillary won't comment on voting for Bernie "if he won the nomination" because it's still primary season and a positive or negative endorsement would help/hurt someone running?
Not sure how well that flies considering she is taking the time to paint some negatives about Bernie.
Maybe I'm reading this all wrong but from my view over here it's clear that this only hurts one person while helping every other person running for Democrat nominee, so not sure how much I buy into the "not saying anything because it's still primary season" rationale.
It really would be great if Hillary just vanished until elections are over. Democrats fight amongst themselves as it is and didn't need another reason.
Some were written near the election, but all were retweeted by Sirota the day before the election.
All I'm saying is that I can understand why Hillary would hold a grudge against sanders if he surrounds himself with these people to be his voice. You want see what a good Democrat does after losing a primary? Look at Beto's Twitter, he is constantly campaigning for other Democrats.
You don't need to read it. These things are influencing from headlines alone. Do you think the people who voted for Trump in 2016 because Facebook articles said Hillary promised to take their guns away actually read those articles?
This is sadly, not great news.
Lol if we're taking this route shouldn't you stay out of AOC and Sanders topics?
Trying to take this line on it after the exposure of all HRC's misdeeds in this thread makes it even more clear how indefensible it all is.
Sirota didn't work for Bernie in 2016.
Bernie did over twice as many campaign events for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary did for Obama in 2008.
Keep trying.
what a crazy new way to look at things. nobody regularly posting on a discussion forum had considered this. empowered by this new perspective, we can move forward by only posting about public figures that we personally like.
so, would it be possible for that old guard to even topple at this point? Let's assume Bernie wins the nomination and the presidency, would that change anything? Or would it just make centrist dems and repubs dig in even further since they would likely grid-lock the movement of any bills? Are there any young dems that could push this movement forward? Aoc?
You aren't forced to keep track of anything. Including Trump's tweets. Of course, refusing to pay attention to it does not by any stretch of the definition render it nonexistent. This post of yours is very silly.
Oh, you mean the post about prison labor?
Yea, that's bad. It's an issue with multiple states and using what amounts to essentially salve labour is obviously wrong.
I suppose in order to make you happy, I must comment on every single post to make you are personally satisfied?
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