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Having lived through 2020-do you believe in the concept of a just and loving God?
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I never believed I was just or caring. That's just a bunch of dumb shit you thought about me because of my hippie son.
I can't ever imagine believing a God could be just – insofar as what humans would determine to be just. Especially if one is both a creator, omniscient by definition and content with putting people to hell (or form thereof).
This topic veers too closely to slamming such beliefs though, so I will also say that if someone does find solace in such an entity and doesn't use it to diminish the life or rights of others; I'm happy you have that in your life.
This topic veers too closely to slamming such beliefs though, so I will also say that if someone does find solace in such an entity and doesn't use it to diminish the life or rights of others; I'm happy you have that in your life.
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My family is very religious and I am not. I don't shame their views but it honestly blows my mind that no matter what horrible things happen this year-they feel there's a good reason.
No. If anything, God, if he is real, is a very shitty parent. Plays head games with his "children" physical abusive too, sending disease and plague and expecting loyalty and love in return. to him or her I say "fuck you"
You say this like 2020 is the worst year in human history. Maybe a little prespective is needed?
Im not the most religious person but the most popular religion preaches about salvation and a perfect world post mortem... So I don't see why a shit world invalidates their beliefs... On the opposite to be honest. Many sees these times as the apocalypse unfolding.
Quite a few things blow my mind when it comes to people in general. If they're not out there causing or stoking harm for others though, then I'm content to sit with that confusion. It's easy to understand where faith and belief in a higher power comes from, and a lot of good people find comfort in that through their life. I wouldn't hope to cross that initial expectation myself by making them feel lesser for it.
No.
It's been something I thought about since I was a kid, not necessarily "Why do good people suffer?" but more "WHY do they have to suffer?" especially when you get people in sweatshops forced to make the products that we enjoy. What's "just" about that?
And with 2020, the year itself represents the cumulation of our societies having failed to take action or be just in our deeds. Conspiracy theorists were allowed to run rampant, unchecked for years and their lies have only led to real world chaos. Powerful people flaunt the rules by taking eyesight tests involving a long drive to a castle in quarantine and don't get fired for it. Flawed companies get contracts to address an issue facing us during a pandemic, get paid millions and utterly fail, only to get paid again.
Justice in our lives isn't in the hands of God, it's in ours as human beings. If we're God's Children then it's time we grew up and took responsibility for ourselves.
It's been something I thought about since I was a kid, not necessarily "Why do good people suffer?" but more "WHY do they have to suffer?" especially when you get people in sweatshops forced to make the products that we enjoy. What's "just" about that?
And with 2020, the year itself represents the cumulation of our societies having failed to take action or be just in our deeds. Conspiracy theorists were allowed to run rampant, unchecked for years and their lies have only led to real world chaos. Powerful people flaunt the rules by taking eyesight tests involving a long drive to a castle in quarantine and don't get fired for it. Flawed companies get contracts to address an issue facing us during a pandemic, get paid millions and utterly fail, only to get paid again.
Justice in our lives isn't in the hands of God, it's in ours as human beings. If we're God's Children then it's time we grew up and took responsibility for ourselves.
This.
Like yeah, if there's an all powerful god they obviously aren't kind or just. So....
I let go of that idea ca. 1993-1994 when I was a teenager and have not looked back. The older I get, the less I understand how people believe in an all-knowing, all-powerful being who loves them.
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Sure I'll go hop in my time machine and go poll the folks of 1611.
I mean even putting aside my lack of belief in a god in general i've never seen any reason to believe that if one hypothetically did exist that they would be "just" or "loving"
People will just tell you that it's a test or trial or whatever they call it that God put on humanity. Something along those lines.
lol what
Genghis Khan, the Holocaust, Slavery etc...
If 2020 was the tipping point for you to stop believing in the myth of a loving god, you need to read more.
Genghis Khan, the Holocaust, Slavery etc...
If 2020 was the tipping point for you to stop believing in the myth of a loving god, you need to read more.
" How long can a world go on under such a subtle God?
How long can a world go on with no word from God?
See the plod of the flawed individual looking for a nod from God
Trotting the sod of the visible with no new word from God"
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ah yes in the 8000th year of modern humanity we finally find the proof of no god in american politics
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If you believe in a just loving God, you're some privileged arsehole.
How long have these various different species of wasp existed for that inject eggs (or paralyse and leave an egg nearby) into living host so that the larvae eat them alive? Forget 2020. No benevolent being would make horror movie shit like that, so no. That's before you even get to the bullshit humanity have been inflicting on each other under the watch of this/these so called benevolent beings. Even if some higher power exists, they are not benevolent at all.
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