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Halo Infinite Season 2 Roadmap - May 3rd to Nov 7th
- Thread starter Outlaw Torn
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Yeah, something is extremely, critically wrong behind the scenes. There has to be. Look, I know making games is extremely difficult, especially today. They are incredibly complex with tons of moving parts and variables involving a huge number of different people in different disciplines and all kinds of things can go wrong at a moments notice. But damn.
This is Microsoft's flagship IP. This took over six years to gestate, only to come out half baked and clearly needing another year of additional development time at minimum to get the game to base level standards. I know COVID assuredly threw a spanner into the works, but damn. What happened? Seriously?
It really feels like this game was thrown together very quickly in a small timeframe; much smaller than the actual full development period post-Halo 5 was. And that they must have had a radically different game that they basically scrapped wholesale or something. It's the only way I can really rationalize it/this.
The game receiving two additional maps in a whole year, when it launched with the fewest maps and modes in the IP's history just doesn't really add up to me.
This is Microsoft's flagship IP. This took over six years to gestate, only to come out half baked and clearly needing another year of additional development time at minimum to get the game to base level standards. I know COVID assuredly threw a spanner into the works, but damn. What happened? Seriously?
It really feels like this game was thrown together very quickly in a small timeframe; much smaller than the actual full development period post-Halo 5 was. And that they must have had a radically different game that they basically scrapped wholesale or something. It's the only way I can really rationalize it/this.
The game receiving two additional maps in a whole year, when it launched with the fewest maps and modes in the IP's history just doesn't really add up to me.
Man, the halo franchise should have never left Bungie's side. Microsoft should have just given Bungie a break from halo. Bungie was burned out making halo games. Microsoft should have allowed bungie to create a new ip and then come back to halo later on. That we never got a bungie developed halo 4-6 is a tragedy.
I wonder if Halo Infinite was never GaaS to begin with and the game was such a development slog they just went let's do GaaS for multiplayer in later years as single player wasn't working out and release what we have as we go and get as many people playing it as possible.
It is incredibly frustrating seeing quality of life feedback from the fans reaction to season 1 being a reason for the delay. It took every halo fan 1 match in the beta to realize how awful the challenge system was. There had to of been tons of people saying how awful the design was while like 3 dope managers kept their awful vision going forward. Now we pay the price if only they had a game of their own that has a perfect system they could have copied directly from?
Hopefully Season 3 is the season the BR launches. I'm excited for this but if Season 3 is more of the same i'll likely be switching to MWII
It's gonna be a year after launch and they will have only added 1 new arena map.
Give Halo to someone else.
Give Halo to someone else.
Or they could have pursued a healthy midground - released Halo Infinite's MP under a lengthy user-feedback-centred open Beta, and continued to polish and iterate on Infinite's Campaign until it was a tour de force experience
Bungie are a different but similar mess but true they seem to pull a gem sometimes. It was never happening nor should have Microsoft forced it.
Seriously. This is their flagship studio and their flagship franchise and they seem to be struggling like a AA studio who are in way over their heads. Like they bit off way more than some small 50 person team could handle.
What could be going on there that causes them to struggle this badly?
The Game Awards Players' Voice Game of the Year 2021!
But really, wow, talk about running out of the gate to only fall face first shortly after. This is not sustainable.
But really, wow, talk about running out of the gate to only fall face first shortly after. This is not sustainable.
Definitely gonna be big, year gonna feel long AF considering the roadmap. Endless, almost.
Just the thought of another 6 months with this progression system makes me not want to play.
"As we continue to improve and ramp up, please understand that all of us at 343 are fully committed to making Halo Infinite the best Halo experience ever. Indeed, the primary reason that we're extending Season 2 is to give us time before shipping another Season to fully address "quality of life" improvements based on learnings from Season 1 as well as other data and feedback we've collected.
Quality of life (QoL) is shorthand for bug-fixes, new features and/or content to address issues negatively impacting player experience. We'll be delivering QoL improvements as part of Season releases and as separate updates during Seasons.
Our player-facing term for QoL updates that land during Seasons is "Drop Pods." And much like their ODST namesakes, these release vehicles are meant to drop in hot, just as soon as they're ready. Our target is one Drop Pod every month, and you can expect Drop Pods to vary in scope and size. We'll have more to share about what's going into Season 2's Drop Pods as soon as possible after Season 2 launch."
I don buy this for a second, they're delaying new content to make fixes and improvements to the game even though a lack of content is one of the biggest issues? That makes no damn sense, shit has to be on fire behind the scenes.
Quality of life (QoL) is shorthand for bug-fixes, new features and/or content to address issues negatively impacting player experience. We'll be delivering QoL improvements as part of Season releases and as separate updates during Seasons.
Our player-facing term for QoL updates that land during Seasons is "Drop Pods." And much like their ODST namesakes, these release vehicles are meant to drop in hot, just as soon as they're ready. Our target is one Drop Pod every month, and you can expect Drop Pods to vary in scope and size. We'll have more to share about what's going into Season 2's Drop Pods as soon as possible after Season 2 launch."
I don buy this for a second, they're delaying new content to make fixes and improvements to the game even though a lack of content is one of the biggest issues? That makes no damn sense, shit has to be on fire behind the scenes.
After a whole year, Infinite will have the lowest amount of maps out of every Halo game and that's not even counting the missing game modes this game is suffering from.
Map count 12 months after launch:
Halo 1: 13
Halo 2: 16
Halo 3: 14
Reach: 19
Halo 4: 21
Halo 5: 27
Halo Infinite: 12
Come on now..
Map count 12 months after launch:
Halo 1: 13
Halo 2: 16
Halo 3: 14
Reach: 19
Halo 4: 21
Halo 5: 27
Halo Infinite: 12
Come on now..
Just think of this as the open beta
The campaign for me, as a solo player, is totally fine and I am glad I got to play it in 2021.
I dont believe Bungie wouldve made a Halo that feels as good to play or has a better sandbox than this one, but as proven by Destiny they could handle the live service aspect worlds better.
Yup. People are just throwing fits because its not doing the same things as every other live game. I'd rather them make sure they get things right then rush to meet a 3 month deadline and then just fuck it all up.
138 replies in 30 minutes on a Friday evening. These types of thread are always so crazy active on Era.
yeah I'm contesting that last point, at first I wasn't worried that there wasn't being much mention about PC-specific improvements but now I'm just like "ok so that's just not happening any time soon huh" after this news.
like it's not that Halo could try making a play again, it's that it has to compete with other games to. Like November 2022 could very well mean it has to deal with a Fortnite that's built even more on its no-building modes and the revamped movement that came with it, an Apex that has a permanent team PVP mode and potentially more (from what I recall of dataminers is that Respawn is working on additional stuff beyond Control), a Warzone relaunch meant to help it deal with the pains it had dealt with since its original 2019 launch, etc, alongside potential wildcard releases we don't know about yet. It's very likely that they're going be dealing with a crowded space for marketshare when they do try to relaunch, and this kind of clownshoes history just trying to get back to basic successful stuff is just going make it way more likely that it doesn't work out.
If trust any activision studio at this point. They'd guarantee good controller aiming and a matchmaking system that actually finds you games at reasonable search times.
Bungie took a while - years really to figure out how to properly manage a live service. It will likely take 343 a long time too. That said this is still disappointing and another six month season just seems bizarre. I was an extremely active player for about 3 months of season 1 and felt like there wasn't much incentive for me to keep playing with the lack of content.
Which is why it's funny when people say "they released this on Friday to bury it!". Games media never sleeps, and thus, neither do gamers.
When this game got delayed, did all of the post-launch support get axed until the game finally got out there? All of this looks like a roadmap without a runway to get things running out in an acceptable amount of time. Some of the things planned nearly a year to the games actual release look like things that should have been added by the start of this year, not the games yearly anniversary.
The amount of maps coming after launch just screams production woes. Two? These aren't two massive open landscapes, right? Multiplayer modes live and die by the frequency of updates, and this looks more like end-of-support content rollouts, not the start of them.
The amount of maps coming after launch just screams production woes. Two? These aren't two massive open landscapes, right? Multiplayer modes live and die by the frequency of updates, and this looks more like end-of-support content rollouts, not the start of them.
Halo 3 number is wrong, should be 18. Heroic map pack (3), legendary map pack (3), Cold Storage surprise drop. Add that to the base 11 maps makes 18.
Oh I haven't been keeping track and thought that co op was going to come out with the launch of season 2.
This is a really rude awakening for me. I've held off playing it to play it with my co-op buddy- so far away :(
This is a really rude awakening for me. I've held off playing it to play it with my co-op buddy- so far away :(