Surely you agree that when you're releasing 12 games at launch on a console and 3 of them are tomb raider games that have been out for over a year that's an issue? It hasn't got the History or promise of support that those other platforms had, either.No they weren't. Knack, Killzone, Playroom, Resogun. These were. The entire rest of it was rereleases.
I'm not just singling out PS4, XBO had the exact same problem. Neither console had actual new games almost a year into the cycle.
Wtf about internet cafe in Brazil? Don't remeber the last time I saw one here in Rio. Is it still a thing?"I'm not sure what implications this has in a place like Africa, where everything's mobile," she said. "When 6G drops, is this going to suddenly be a big deal? What does this mean for places where everyone goes to Internet cafes, like in Brazil? Who knows."
Phil Harrison is 0/3. He was at Sony for the PS3 launch. He was at Microsoft for the Xbox One launch. Now he's managing Stadia. Dude can't get a hit.
It still takes time to port the games, and I'm guessing the launch titles are just everyone who jumped on early and had something for the release date. Also consider that EA, Microsoft, and Bethesda are all looking to make their own streaming servicesSince it's also essentially a store that you steam from, why isn't Every current game available, available to buy? Publishers have nothing to lose by putting their games on it.
Wait...your first sentence does not match your second paragraph.i get the concern from dev/pubs but if i (a consumer) was interested in stadia my games being yanked wouldn't be a concern.
i know i'm supposed to be cynical of the corporate big bad but nullifying a bunch of $60 purchases a few years later would be egregious even by google standards. if this was some start up ragtag outfit i could understand it, they need to shut down servers with no cashflow. but it's google
Since it's also essentially a store that you steam from, why isn't Every current game available, available to buy? Publishers have nothing to lose by putting their games on it.
And when they won't, where will you move the goal posts to so your hate boner remains in tact?You've been getting a lot of response to this post and I apologize for piling on but - the real key difference here is if Day 2 of X1 and PS4, MS and Sony both said "Fuck this we done", you would still have your console and your 20 games each until they die a physical death.
If, next week, Google says "Fuck this", and you bought all 12 launch titles, you have nothing at all. And you might say this is just digital v. physical, but every other digital service has an offline mode you can leave on as you like even if their service did go down. Stadia has no safety net and that's a big deal for people's money.
See this twitter thread:
Stadia does feel dangerously rushed, and in a post-Epic Games Store PR implosion world, the game streaming performance might not even matter.
EDIT: oh, there's another thread on it. https://www.resetera.com/threads/stadia-reddit-ama-stadias-achievements-will-not-have-ui-at-launch-family-sharing-not-at-launch-either.152892/
Damn it really feels like Phil Harrison can't catch a break since leaving Sony.
Wait...your first sentence does not match your second paragraph.
"There's nothing I can say now to make you believe if you don't."
If they said "We will refund anyone who has bought games on our streaming service if we discontinue the service" it would go some way to convincing me.
Wtf about internet cafe in Brazil? Don't remeber the last time I saw one here in Rio. Is it still a thing?
context is a developer who has a stake in the platform's success trying to push back against its poor reception with arguments that seem like non sequiturs to meThe headline of the article seems pretty click baity considering the context of what was actually said.
Context is a Stadia dev saying that the biggest worry that people have is that Google will drop it, but Google have been massively successful with a ton of things and that they use Google Maps, Google Phones, Google Calendars etc every day and companies have to take risks on new ideas.
Headline makes it sound like a candid, anonymous "everyone here thinks it's gonna get cancelled".
If you are willing to jump through some hoops, you can still buy google glassesConsidering Google routinely kills products that are plenty successful I completely understand why some devs would feel that way. I'll change my mind when they revive Google Reader, put out a modern update to Picasa, and they quit fucking with Google Photos for PC, among other things.
I personally and professionally have had their services retired out from under me.I agree with Gwen and the developers who recognize which way the wind is blowing. Posting this from my Android phone.
There's no reason to expect that the service is just gonna die because they're not blowing the doors off at launch. "Google cancels everything" is a meme people latch onto to feel like they're part of something. Everyone gets lonely.
Google isn't the future of gaming. This has nothing to do with cancel culture. You may want to look up the term.how can you cancel the future of gaming?
cancel culture has gone too far
Isn't it Starbucks? At least it is for me and some friends in RJ.Wtf about internet cafe in Brazil? Don't remeber the last time I saw one here in Rio. Is it still a thing?
They were joking, at least I hope they wereGoogle isn't the future of gaming. This has nothing to do with cancel culture. You may want to look up the term.
I've learned crazy is real. 2019, y'all.
Right, but, with all of those things, Google either made a convincing and attractive case for everyone to adopt it, *or* they were there early enough in the rush to make them that everyone jumped on it first. Those things (phones, email, calendar, map) are also crucial every day functions at this point.
Absolutely none of those factors are in play with Stadia. It's just another, arguably less convenient way to play video games.
Most consumers feel the same. It's why people are cautious buying games on a platform that might not exist in 2 years.
Would you say the same about the 20 game lineup that Xbox One and PS4 had?
So the person they interviewed doesn't hold this opinion at all it seems. They're pointing out it's in the back of minds of other devs.As for the service's continued existence, Frey thinks such concerns among other developers are "kind of silly."
"Working in tech, you have to be willing to make bold moves and try things that could fail," Frey continued. "And yeah, Google's canceled a lot of projects. But I also have a Pixel in my pocket, I'm using Google Maps to get around. I only got here because my Google Calendar told me to get here by giving me a prompt in Gmail. It's not like Google cancels every fucking thing they make."
No one reads. Stadia Hate Boners in full effect. She called it, "kind of silly."
That's not what she really said. It's literally in the first paragraph ffs. The circle jerk against Stadia is really tiresome.
So the person they interviewed doesn't hold this opinion at all it seems. They're pointing out it's in the back of minds of other devs.
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I don't think the title is inaccurate. That's literally what she said people think. Whether she agrees with that view or not is immaterial to the fact that the view is common in her circlesShouldn't a mod change the title due to OP click baiting the thread as in if she thinks that rather than basically saying that people who who think that are silly ?
stadia is a virtual pc you can access. there really is no reason why they shouldn't have access to most of all pc releases that aren't locked behind another service.Would you say the same about the 20 game lineup that Xbox One and PS4 had?
Game's have to be ported, stadia isn't a windows pcstadia is a virtual pc you can access. there really is no reason why they shouldn't have access to most of all pc releases that aren't locked behind another service.
then going with microsoft's streaming solution is gonna be a much better idea then.