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Game Pass has more than 25 million subscribers
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I thought Fallout 76 and The Elder Scrolls Online were subscription based, but I see it's just a premium subscription, not needed for playing. Hoping they do the same for WoW.
I wonder if they will ease into it by bringing some of the ABK games to Gamepass before the merger?
For the compare in January 2021 they had a 3 millions growth in one trimester (15>18mil). The slowdown explains why we didn't had any numbers since (I am not couting wrong estimates made by estimated people here).
I'm expecting them to come on sooner as that is what happened with Bethesda games.
It's going to be interesting to see if the subscription numbers don't jump up the way some of y'all are claiming they will lol
I hope Game Pass doesn't become the de facto model for games in the future. I don't like movies being removed from Netflix and I wouldn't like it for games either. I like buying and selling games on my own terms.
It would be desperately troubling and surprising if it didn't.
But doesn't it if it becomes the main means of distribution? Let's say a game comes to GP and I add it to my backlog. 2 years later I get around to it, but it leaves the service when I'm halfway through. Doesn't that majorly suck? I'm on the hook now to buy the game if I want to finish it- something I could just have done in the first place.
I've also stayed away from GP given what people here say about the storage problems. Wonder whether that will ever get fixed. Wiping my system is not something I'm willing to risk needing to do.
I'm all in. best thing to happen to the consumer side of gaming in a long, long time.
(along side being able to game share/subscription share)
(along side being able to game share/subscription share)
I mean in that case, you still wouldn't lose anything as you'd have to pay for the game in either scenario (probably cheaper if it's 2 years later). Also, there's a 20% discount (there's a limit to this I think for newly released to Gamepass games, but certainly not 2 years like your example) to purchase games that are on Gamepass which would bring that down even further
I think for the Activision deal to make sense, the number has to be at least 100 million. Even at $10 per month that would account for 12 billion a year in revenue. Still a ways to go to recoup that 70 billion investment + 7.5 billion for Bethesda.
It just shows how serious MS is about Gamepass. They are all in and if it doesn't work, I don't see how they recoup all they have spent.
It just shows how serious MS is about Gamepass. They are all in and if it doesn't work, I don't see how they recoup all they have spent.
I still feel like they should be up to at least twice that amount by now just based on the value. I get some people want to buy their games (they still can), but having access to so many great games for cheap is such a nobrainer to me. I use GP on PC to demo games and then I go buy them. If I'm not feeling it, it's money saved.
Also forgetting the amount of money they get from microtransactions and DLCs in Game Pass games. For example, around 40% of all of PlayStation's revenue is MTX, DLC, etc...
You realize call of duty is the biggest selling franchise for 13 years and Candy Crush games pull in over a billion dollars a year alone without looking at kings other mobile games.
That's just two franchises acting like this deal was only for gamepass is silly.
I also doubt WoW will get folded into Gamepass. That's too much its own thing, and probably makes more money as a separate platform.
I reckon things like King and WoW is why Spencer is now CEO of gaming instead of Xbox, because parts of the Activision deal will stay out of the Xbox ecosystem.
(I also don't think it's a good deal by the way. But I said the same about Minecraft and have been very wrong there. I think Activision ran the company way too conservatively so maybe Microsoft can leverage the IP better)
The thing here is this announced a week before earnings calls by an executive, maybe illustrating that new independence taken from the core company, and responsibility coming with.
edit JimD :
Sorry I missread you, thought you were still referencing to another take and not the E3 by Grubb. In this case like you said the Grubb info is totally in line with today's results.
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You get discount for games that are on GP. A new version of the app that doesnt lock down game install files is also in beta test and should release soon.
That's why COD exclusivity and day 1 on game pass is crazy talk. That's a lot of lost revenue on top of the acquisition money.
But then again everything so far has been crazy and I won't pretend to understand MS endgame here
COD will sell a buck ton at retail even if it is day 1 on Game Pass. And MS could care less if it brings another 5 million game pass subs.
MS wants people in their ecosystem and using it. They want people using gamepass, on xbox live servers, switching from PC to Xbox to cloud.
Thats why their focus is on MAU these last years. With Office etc also. Cant believe we are doing this again after Bethesda. Xbox follows what the mothership is doing.
Thats why their focus is on MAU these last years. With Office etc also. Cant believe we are doing this again after Bethesda. Xbox follows what the mothership is doing.
Call of Duty is all but confirmed day 1 gamepass literally all Microsoft first party are Day 1 Gamepass theres been no exceptions.
I don't think Grubb's number was a prognosis or estimate. He said he knew for a fact it was 21 million at E3, which I'd take to mean that he had a source leaking that number. I think it's pretty clear that subscriptions were slowing down fairly significantly last year, hence the Activision deal.
Imagine being part of that 25m who actually pay $15 each month.
Bethesda was about six months but, for clarity, the date given for this deal is by the end of fiscal year 2023 which starts in July this year and ends June 2023.
So it's 'by June 2023' not 'expected to close in June 2023'.
who are you talking to? I'm on that 3 year cheap xbox live gold conversion
anyway $15 a month is cheap to pay for the best value in gaming. what's there to shame
I'm not because I refuse to pay for GP for PC due to obvious Windows Store related issues.
If they fix it up, we'll talk.
I think the content on game pass is generally higher than what's on Netflix. Game Pass is the best subscription service around nowadays, nothing has a library of as much good content.
I'd much rather pay $20/month for Game Pass than Netflix—can't remember the last time I watched something on there
Both are two different subscriptions. One has movies and shows the other one has games. Netflix is the first mainstream streaming service that why I used it as a comparison. Game pass is the first mainstream gaming service of its kind.
Nope, june 2023 is the latest. It will be completed between june-2022 and june-2023.
Zenimax was 6 months, as were MS's other acquisitions. This will take longer but id honestly say itll be this year. Maybe even in time to get MW2 day one on gamepass.
This is a fallacy I see a lot in regards to MS's acquisitions (and others). They don't need to "recoup" that money since they didn't lose the money, they just converted cash into another asset which is worth the same as the cash. If they had gone into debt to acquire a company then yes the money would have to be recouped to pay off the debt but they paid cash from reserves they already had. So unless their cash reserves are required to be at a certain amount then there really isn't a need to recoup the purchase, the only thing that matters is that the company is continuing to make money year over year.
Like if you had 100,000 dollars in the bank and you bought a TV for 1000 you wouldn't be thinking "how am I going to recoup the money I spent on that TV?". You just used some of your cash to buy something you needed.
Now there would be an argument as to how good an investment it will be if the gaming division isn't making money and MS decides it needs to sell the assets it got in this and other purchases but that's not the same thing as MS feeling they need to "recoup" the purchase cost like they're paying off a debt to themselves.