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First plot details about STAR WARS: OBI-WAN KENOBI
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I'm thinking there might be some kind of fakeout, like illusion, or amnesia after the battle, or something
If we're just saying "fuck it" and retconning ROTS, I am down for a half cyborg Mace Windu appearing.
Yeah, but it's not like (for my money anyway) Lucas should have kept it either. I wouldn't have any interest in Lucas penning a new trilogy, or atleast I doubt it'd fair any better than the prequels did.
I don't know who he should have sold it to. Maybe no one.
Maybe Lucas should have just released the copyright itself. Let anyone who wants to make SW make whatever they want. Atleast that way we'd definitely have people who want to push SW having the ability to make it.
Definitely. Star Wars has been retconned endless times lol.
I still think Vader and Obi-wan facing each other again before ANH to be kinda dumb though.
Lmao you know, to be honest. At this point I feel like the star wars movies are more stifling to the creative direction that star wars needs to go in to be successful than they are helpful.
So while I get where you're coming from I can't help but be excited for this.
idk, Maul had the best fights of star wars already with TCW and Rebels, I feel like he honestly doesn't need another.
I think about this as well but I am sure they get this as well. (Boy do I hope so)
Maybe Mando has stolen some of that thunder?
Wait they're gunna confront each other after ROTS but before ANH? I don't see how that doesn't fuck with the impact of their final meeting/fight in ANH. Really not sure about that one, sounds like bad fan service opposed to good
Still excited for the show but eh..
Still excited for the show but eh..
Star Wars is a franchise that has multiple sub fandoms. And each fandom lives in a different reality.
Now try pleasing each and everyone of them.
George Lucas knew what was he was doing when he sold the franchise.
Now try pleasing each and everyone of them.
George Lucas knew what was he was doing when he sold the franchise.
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What if Obi-Wan convinces Anakin to try to take on the Emperor, and the rematch they're talking about is Obi-Wan+Anakin vs Sith enemy?
Scott Lawrence (whom also played Jarek Yeager in Resistance) played Vader in
Jedi: Fallen Order
and sounded great there. I could see them using him again since I think out of all the Vader voices I've heard over the years, he does the best impression of JEJ.
Vader is presumed dead by Palpatine in an episode of Rebels set a couple of years before ANH.
Palpatine: Skywalker's apprentice could lead us to other lost Jedi.
Vader: Such as Kenobi
Palpatine: If he lives
So this battle needs to end with Obi Wan presumed dead.
I always got the impression, aside from the endless blue screen filming, that Ewan enjoyed shooting them and got along great with the cast, especially Hayden.
If there is going to be a rematch, I'd like to see it end with Vader beating Obi-wan pretty convincingly and Obi-wan barely escaping, which would explain why he'd want to avoid Vader until ANH. By which time he's realized that the only way to 'win' is not to fight.
i mean with the rate they goin they gonna have a disney plus show pleasing a different segment of the fanbase,they producing a spy star wars series for chris sake
Have an Obi Wan vs Sheev fight where they practice their force screeching.
Being haunted by failing his student, best friend, and entire order is pretty much exactly the tone anything to do with hermit Kenobi needs. I could see an Arkham Knight style working out well with pre-Mustafar Vader hanging around Kenobi's hut and undermining everything he tries to do.
That's more or less a high-level summary of the old EU Kenobi novel - getting sucked into local Tatooine problems, defending farms, conflict with the Sand People (but not always violent), then ultimately the realisation that he's causing too much ruckus for a guardian and disappearing back into the wastes.
Only way it dosnt affect the plot-line of ANH is if Obi Wan kicks his ass yet again to the point of not killing him, yet again. 😆 Imagine how hard Darth Vader will job yet again against Obi to have to say "when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"...
Well Vader just has to lie to Sheev if they meet again.
Though Vader always fails at trying to pull one over on Sheev so yeah it'll probably be they both think Obi is dead.
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They fight on the Clone-making planet and Obi-Wan falls into the machine that was used to speed up the ageing of the Clone Troopers. The machine overloads and Vader presumes Obi-Wan dies.
Obi-wan survives but is severely weakened and aged (cue Alec Guinness deepfake)
I see what they are doing tho. Give the fans who only want to see a return on their investment, the fanservice they want and let other creators take SW to new places like Lesley Headland and Taika Waititi's projects.
edit: also I am not sure why people are concerned about retconning.... this is Star Wars.
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Ah I see. I hadn't watched Rebels yet so that little tidbit was unknown to me.
The idea doesn't really bother me, if they execute it well, it's all good. It can just be an Ahsoka situation all over again where everyone went ape shit calling Lucas a hack bastard who should die for retconning in some hidden padawan of Anakkn the movies never mentioned.
As you know, I'm way more interested in Lucas' take on a sequel trilogy than Disney. He would have had something to say and it would've been unique and not purely nostalgia pandering. It seems only RJ is interested in that stuff though.
Absolute nonsense to have them meet again before A New Hope, but whatever.
At least I get a Droids show out of all of this.
At least I get a Droids show out of all of this.
Not only great. Amongst the greatest ever. Her resumé is insane. Star Wars "fans" complaining about her makes me tune out in a heartbeat.
The OT is a pointless sequence of events that end up in failure until the actual hero of this whole saga Rey Sky..sky...lmao...Skywalker arrives and does it all again but for real this time.
So in the immortal words of Han Solo...
Ugh the video he linked to is from a cringe studio. Even stood up for Gina.
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*a SithThe OT is a pointless sequence of events that end up in failure until the actual hero of this whole saga Rey Sky..sky...lmao...Skywalker arrives and does it all again but for real this time.
So in the immortal words of Han Solo...
Not sure how much looking after Obi-Wan is actually doing given he lives miles away across the desert, and rarely if ever even interacted with Luke's family.
(And why does Owen have such a negative opinion of him? The man gave him his nephew!)
lol @ this "imagine being so full of hate" faux outrage when the very first thing you posted in this thread was to attack Kennedy's involvement, paired with a bullshit claim about her ruining Mando that you had to edit out, and followed up later by calling her a liar.
I have bad news for you -- every single one of those women, and more (like Deborah Chow and Leslye Headland), was also hired by Kathleen Kennedy. Anything Star Wars you're watching between now and Kathleen Kennedy's retirement/move to another company will feature her involvement.
Like....the PT has tons of OT references and things that are just there for fanservice and to hit your nostalgia button. It's just that, yes, Lucas would have also added stuff in addition to that. I would go as far as saying Lucas is as bad or nearly as bad as Disney is in that, but knows that he needs to add atleast one innovative thing to it.
The thing is tho, when you know so much of what the PT added is just garbage until the clone wars cartoon repaired it, you're effectively just saying is Lucas' job is to give other writers a framework for which they can then spend their labor improving. It's like concept art, except the concept art is the finished movie.
I'm once again struck by the notion that Star Wars is just not a normal franchise. It's too big, it's fans too devout and excessive that nothing normal can come out of it. It's like a giant snake that eats itself at the same pace that it grows.
The OT is a pointless sequence of events that end up in failure until the actual hero of this whole saga Rey Sky..sky...lmao...Skywalker arrives and does it all again but for real this time.
So in the immortal words of Han Solo...
And then Vader tries to clone him with the material left over in the machine and OOPSIE DAISY suddenly Joruus C'Boath is back just in time for the Ashoka show to have him team up with Thrawn.