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FF7 remake demo is out now on PSN!
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I did not like this much. Game is beautiful, soundtrack fantastic, the battle system though... nah... not for me.
I feel that hard here TBH. You're locked into one of two predetermined combos depending on your stance with no way to influence it in any way. I don't feel like I'm actively in control, and when I try to reclaim that control, by trying to make combos involving both characters or throwing in abilities to try and keep the combo going, the game actively fights against me.
Also when your about to go into the reactor building but look left across the way and see the Shinra Tower in the distance with the cranes was really awesome to see.
Broke down and played it.
Holy hell that was awesome!! Five weeks and 5 days is going to be brutal!
I had a blast with the combat, too. Granted, I played 'Classic' and yes, I never ever really felt in danger of losing, but I loved bouncing back and forth between Cloud and Barret, normal attacks, special attacks when the ATB filled, healing, changing styles (dude... Punisher is badass!)... loved it. Going to try Normal next, but everything from the graphics to the presentation, to the music, to the little details... hot damn!
Holy hell that was awesome!! Five weeks and 5 days is going to be brutal!
I had a blast with the combat, too. Granted, I played 'Classic' and yes, I never ever really felt in danger of losing, but I loved bouncing back and forth between Cloud and Barret, normal attacks, special attacks when the ATB filled, healing, changing styles (dude... Punisher is badass!)... loved it. Going to try Normal next, but everything from the graphics to the presentation, to the music, to the little details... hot damn!
My nitpicks, I had to change enemy targeting to left and right on the d pad so I could move the camera around while locked on, but by the time I figured that out I was using left and right to switch characters and now I needed to use up and down so I was fighting muscle memory already.
The time stopping on cutscenes took the urgency completely away for me. And I had over 10 minutes left on the 20 minute escape I think. Hopefully it's just for the demo? Seems really silly when I think about it.
The time stopping on cutscenes took the urgency completely away for me. And I had over 10 minutes left on the 20 minute escape I think. Hopefully it's just for the demo? Seems really silly when I think about it.
Just played. A lot going on with combat (and that's with only two characters). Pretty sweet once you start getting into the groove. Switching to Barrett to big shot a turret then smoothly back to Cloud to punisher mode counter a shock trooper directly into a thrust attack stagger and finish with bolt or a Braver feels real good, and not hard to handle once the button layout starts sinking in. Will have to see with more characters and magic and skills but so far I really like how it's an action rpg where you can meaningfully control a party and still keep track of what's happening. Having the specials on the menu and easy access for uncontrolled character menu is a smart move.
The feel of the bombing mission is spot on too, expanded realistically without fundamentally changing.
I'm still grumpy about having to wait so long for the whole saga, but am feeling pretty positive about part 1.
The feel of the bombing mission is spot on too, expanded realistically without fundamentally changing.
I'm still grumpy about having to wait so long for the whole saga, but am feeling pretty positive about part 1.
Me: lol why did they give us so many potions, easy mode babby game lol
Me at the boss fight: So anyways, I used all my potions
Me at the boss fight: So anyways, I used all my potions
For anyone who wants to play with Japanese voices on the Western demo release, I can confirm if you have your console set to Japanese, the voices will switch to Japanese with English text. This is not the case with the Japanese demo, where language is dependent fully on your consoles UI. This shouldn't be the case for the final, just a by product with how the demo works.
Why does classic mode exist? It technically auto attacks and blocks, but not if youre moving and its really slow. Like, you could hit the enemy 5x by the time it does the first automatic strike.
Really bizarre.
Really bizarre.
Incredible. I was a little skeptical and thought I wanted a closer-to-the-original experience, but the demo sold me. Once I got the flow of combat, it felt like a nice mix of classic command vs. more action modernization. Was surprised at how much strategy went into the boss fight - and I was actually really happy with the length of that battle. Loved the cutscenes and detail to the environment. Looking forward to the full release! Also, I was on a 4K OLED and the game did look a little blurry on my PS4Pro, but the HDR implementation was fantastic.
What's the consensus on Barret? I kind of feel like this over-the-top slice of black pepper ham was how he would've been portrayed in 97, and I guess they decided to stay true to that, for better or worse. Wedge sounded weird too. Everyone else is fine, Cloud sounds almost the same as Steve Burton imo
I gawked there, too. It was also really cool to see his sword illuminated orange by nearby flames.This is probably my favourite shot I've taken so far, so much detail on Cloud's model and the Buster Sword.
Anime grunts, huffs and puffs and oh's. Eurgh.
Dont think classic mode suits this game at all, feel way to detached from whats going on.
Dont think classic mode suits this game at all, feel way to detached from whats going on.
Yo exactly. I'm not sure yet how to properly Dodge all attacks. I get hit by everything and even blocked attacks chip away faster than I'd like.
Wish there was an autoheal option (using your own materia and items of course) after battles.
I recently sped through the original again before starting this to get an idea of the contrasts between them.
One thing I'm curious about is how they will handle the final Scarlet and Heidegger battle. I accepted it back then because as a kid I always viewed fighting the "RPG generals" (which is what they are in all but name technically), as a checklist. The "defeat every general" trope is pretty blatant in FF7 because the encounter doesn't really make any sense other than checking off the box to defeat them, and there was no story time to do it (because the game overall is pretty on rails story beat wise) other than to jam them together into one shoehorned battle.
One thing I'm curious about is how they will handle the final Scarlet and Heidegger battle. I accepted it back then because as a kid I always viewed fighting the "RPG generals" (which is what they are in all but name technically), as a checklist. The "defeat every general" trope is pretty blatant in FF7 because the encounter doesn't really make any sense other than checking off the box to defeat them, and there was no story time to do it (because the game overall is pretty on rails story beat wise) other than to jam them together into one shoehorned battle.
It's not fully clear, IIRC in the original Jessie said it was a much bigger explosion that intended. Maybe they just wanted to knock it offline and not nuke it.
Wedge has that weird "fat guy voice" that Square has apparently thought was a thing since at least Kingsglaive .
To be honest I don't like Barret's voice either but we knew this was gonna happen.
lol I just think of Badger from Breaking Bad cause that's who's voicing him
I'm over here acting like it's Kingdom Hearts thinking the dodge has a bunch of i-frames
Nope, but apparently if you download the demo you will be able to download a theme in the future (when the full game releases?).
Magic being tied to ATB when there's already MP doesn't make sense to me.
This too. I'm constantly dodging but getting hit anyway.
This too. I'm constantly dodging but getting hit anyway.
No, and I chose the 20 minute option for the bomb timer. I've completed the demo twice now. Reminds me of when I used to replay demos in the old days. The game is too damn good.
Overall really enjoyed it. Combat feels nice, it can get button mashy but there's always a pause to sift through abilities which diminishes it. Only problem I have is with dodging and defending because they feel a bit useless.
Score sounds great, voice acting is typical Square JRPG level, which is fine. Barret is pretty ridiculous though, and not in a good way.
Oh and the group banter was quite endearing.
Score sounds great, voice acting is typical Square JRPG level, which is fine. Barret is pretty ridiculous though, and not in a good way.
Oh and the group banter was quite endearing.
Barret's just a macho blowhard. I think Bentley does a great job, honestly- but some of his quieter, more subtle dialogue is really well done. I hope that's more of the tone Barret takes after all the bravado and madness that goes down in Game 1.
Barret's biggest moments in Corel Village should be an excellent opportunity for Bentley to really shine.
Overall I'm really happy with all the central voice work. The ShinRa troops kind of have that generic anime voice work and the amount of 'mouth noises' (sighs, gasps, grunts) are a bit much, but it doesn't really bother me. The casual dialogue is pretty great, I think.
You need to anticipate for the dodge. It's not really a reactive action like Bayo or Kingdom Hearts I think. TBH I think it's mostly just for local AOE (like EMP blast). For regular melee seems like block is the way to go. Maybe block combined with Operator mode.
I don't think it needs i-frames, it's not that kind of action game.
I love this combat so much more than XV's already. Which isn't difficult because I really disliked XV's combat.
Honestly if it holds up in the full game then this will be the best real time action combat in the series.
The rest of the remake could suck for all I care, I'll still be happy if the game has lots of cool mechanics like we can see in the demo. Even just having three party members is going to be so interesting.
I guess they want you to feel less of a terrorist like you did in the original.
The classic auto attack doesnt go off, not only when youre moving the character, but also if youre moving the camera. Even a little bit. Incredible.
You're looking at the OG FFVII through a nostalgia filter and it's heavily coloring your opinion.
You can keep saying that, and if anyone gave a shit I'd explain why I'm not, but whatever helps you sleep at night my dude.
It's going to cripple attempts at caster focused characters as well, as even Aeris has to spin her stick and throw magic orbs at shit in order to heal or something. The ATB system with notches would have worked if there wasn't also MP involved. I imagine they're going to try and balance that out with having "skills" the nonMP consuming abilities that will help balance out the healing and reactiveness when you can't use your items or healer abilities because you haven't mashed square enough.
But that then raises the question of why everything isn't just ATB notch costs and not MP costs, because adding an MP cost makes the materia/magic system extremely limited, but then they throw in mako shards inbetween fights making mp regen a non issue. So there's no real balancing between the two resources and/or why they're used. The better system would be magic is tied to MP so you can use it whenever but it costs MP, while other abilities are tied to ATB, giving players more real time control while also having finite resources to manage in one of their skill pools. But that's just me.
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