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EGS leaked Hajimari no Kiseki localization as "Trails into Reverie" for 2023 alongside Trails of Azure, Nayuta, & Zero [Up: Geofront announcement!]
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a physical release is 100% happening. the announcements last night were meant to be more like teasers. you'll see very basic posts on retail sites such as the glorious breath of the wild 2 page and once the games are in a more showable english state, they'll get the full treatment with the limited edition, merch, etc.
Wow, what emotions. I'm simultaneously massively relieved and annoyed at the wait for over a year until any of these release (was really hoping for a October 2021 release for either Reverie or zero), but I'm mostly just super glad all of these games are official.
Still really wish Falcom would get its localization game in order, and make arrangements to give the West more release parity. We have to be approaching the point where a good percentage of units moved are now outside of the Japan/Asia market.
Edit- I kind of wish the thread title would be edited to remove the EGS reference since theres are now official with NISA for console as well. I almost had a heart attacking coming into this thinking that all these games were going to be an EGS pc exclusive moneyhat or something.
Still really wish Falcom would get its localization game in order, and make arrangements to give the West more release parity. We have to be approaching the point where a good percentage of units moved are now outside of the Japan/Asia market.
Edit- I kind of wish the thread title would be edited to remove the EGS reference since theres are now official with NISA for console as well. I almost had a heart attacking coming into this thinking that all these games were going to be an EGS pc exclusive moneyhat or something.
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It's going to be the Kai version. Hopefully with Geofront's improvements.
To elaborate, the first two Trails in the Sky games are on PSP, but the 3rd was only released in English on PC.
Sky FC and SC can. But The 3rd is PC only in English because Sony stopped accepting PSP titles and the 3rd didnt get localized until like 2017
be mindful that the translation is a bit rough on PSP, and also that the 3rd is only on PC.
It would be best if you played it on PC
The PSP translation is separate from the PC translation? Huh.
I played the PSP versions (on a Vita, but yeah) and didn't think the localization was bad at all.
It's not bad per se, but the terms used don't connect with the rest of the games. Most obviously Zin name being "Zane" on the PSP.
But they're serviceable if you really wanna play that version.
Oh! Ha. I remember that now. The Zin/Zane thing. Man, I'd totally forgotten.
Falcom's Japanese announcement about these localizations confirm these are the "Kai" versions of Zero, Azure, and Nayuta.
www.falcom.co.jp
『軌跡シリーズ』４タイトル、北米・欧州・オセアニア地域での発売が決定！ | 日本ファルコム 公式サイト
日本ファルコム株式会社（代表取締役社長：近藤季洋 以下「日本ファルコム」）は、同社を代表する人気RPG作品「軌跡シリーズ」に関して、米国・カリフォルニア州に本社を置くゲームパブリッシャー、NIS America, Inc.が『英雄伝説 零の…
www.falcom.co.jp
Also, the Steam and Good Old Games logos are at on the footer of each games' official website. No Epic Games Store exclusive nonsense.
thelegendofheroes.com
thelegendofheroes.com
thelegendofnayuta.com
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero & Trails to Azure
Experience Crossbell in this exciting chapter from the renowned The Legend of Heroes series! The site of an ongoing territorial struggle between the Erebonian Empire and the Republic of Calvard, Crossbell has developed into a prosperous city-state and one of the continent’s leading economic centers.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
A new Trails game focusing on “Beginning,” that leads into the climax of the entire series Three different “Cross Stories” to follow with many new features Some data carry-over with other Trails titles on PS4
The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails | NIS America
A fateful encounter with a fairy-like creature, Noi, sets Nayuta and his friends on a path to explore beyond the borders of their island home in order to stop a dark plot. PS4™ and Nintendo Switch™ [Official website]
I mean the Steam pages went up last night.Also, the Steam and Good Old Games logos are at on the footer of each games' official website. No Epic Games Store exclusive nonsense.
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero & Trails to Azure
Experience Crossbell in this exciting chapter from the renowned The Legend of Heroes series! The site of an ongoing territorial struggle between the Erebonian Empire and the Republic of Calvard, Crossbell has developed into a prosperous city-state and one of the continent’s leading economic centers.The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
A new Trails game focusing on “Beginning,” that leads into the climax of the entire series Three different “Cross Stories” to follow with many new features Some data carry-over with other Trails titles on PS4The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails | NIS America
A fateful encounter with a fairy-like creature, Noi, sets Nayuta and his friends on a path to explore beyond the borders of their island home in order to stop a dark plot. PS4™ and Nintendo Switch™ [Official website]
Even if the fan translations are "complete," it still would need to have every single line reviewed, considered, and tweaked to be usable in an actual retail game.
Plus NISA is a small company, Trails isn't the only thing they have going on, and releasing a game is a lot more than just translating it. There's months of logistical work to complete. And of course going over the localization with a fine tooth comb.
The timeline for Zero, Azure, and Reverie is tough for fans, but it isn't unreasonable really.
I don't think it means we'll be getting Kuro in 2025 when Japan is about to get Kuro 3. Because after Azure and Zero finally come out.... there is nothing more in the back library to "catch up" on. There are no more dangling threads to close off. NISA can just focus on getting the games out quickly, in order.
I see little reason we couldn't get Kuro in 2024, and after that the English versions of Kiseki games may finally consistently come out on time.
Plus NISA is a small company, Trails isn't the only thing they have going on, and releasing a game is a lot more than just translating it. There's months of logistical work to complete. And of course going over the localization with a fine tooth comb.
The timeline for Zero, Azure, and Reverie is tough for fans, but it isn't unreasonable really.
I don't think it means we'll be getting Kuro in 2025 when Japan is about to get Kuro 3. Because after Azure and Zero finally come out.... there is nothing more in the back library to "catch up" on. There are no more dangling threads to close off. NISA can just focus on getting the games out quickly, in order.
I see little reason we couldn't get Kuro in 2024, and after that the English versions of Kiseki games may finally consistently come out on time.
if they're working on nayuta and hajimari into 2023, a one year timeline for kuro is an extremely aggressive expectation
there will be at least a new Ys game between now and then, too, which adds to the backlog.
early 2025 is the most reasonable timing to expect based on NISA's general tendency to take 2 years on trails games
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You need to take into account that a new Ys game can happen between Kuro releases, and that would be an extra game to localize for NISA.
Steam too. Ports are probably why nothing's been announced yet, NISA's usually much quicker with N1 games.
I think Galleria sold like shit, too? I do hope it happens, though. Refrain was pretty good already and apparently Galleria is a lot better, at least on the story side.
Idk about Steam, Nisa's not porting Caligula Effect 2 therr, despite the first game being on it
*will happen*
Kondo's more or less stealth-confirmed Ys 10 for next year.
Which is a good thing in terms of catching up again to Japanese releases, as NISA can localise Ys games faster than Trails.
Not when Ys X is a 100-hour long action rpg with a Trails-size script. /s
Ys IX was not translated by the same team as Cold Steel 3 and 4. It doesn't mean it wouldn't have an impact on Kuro though.
if ys x or an ys-sized game hits in 2022, it's probably going to be mid-2024, following the release schedule of ys ix as an example.
looking it at it from the pc side:
ys viii: 2018 (lol)
tocs iii: 2020
tocs iv: 2021
ys ix: 2021
zero: 2022
azure: 2023
reverie: 2023
nayuta: 2023
ys x: 2024
kuro: 2024
kuro 2: 2025 (if this is the 2023 game)
looking it at it from the pc side:
ys viii: 2018 (lol)
tocs iii: 2020
tocs iv: 2021
ys ix: 2021
zero: 2022
azure: 2023
reverie: 2023
nayuta: 2023
ys x: 2024
kuro: 2024
kuro 2: 2025 (if this is the 2023 game)
I'm pretty sure the same team/people tend to localize all the trails games for NISA
they won't be going full bore into kuro until they wrap up or are close to finishing reverie
expecting kuro 1 and 2 within a 2 year span of that.. there's just no reasonable basis for thinking NISA is capable of that
*Me looking at an unknown amount of jrpg games i have never played which would take me years per game to beat at my current available free time*,
u-uh yeah i can totally catch up on 10s of jrpgs when the new one releases in japan.
But that same NISA team also released CS3 and CS4 within a year, and then Ys IX after just 4 more months.
I realized this too, but they had time leading up to cs3 because of the years after cs2
there would effectively be no break here
also I'm pretty sure ys is not the same people.
porting remains a major roadblock too. nisa essentially has porting as part of their business now as they've hired on several studios to work on games for them outside of the falcom titles. on one hand this is a good sign for previous games as there might be hope for stuff like a redone garghav trilogy. on the other, it does mean that work will really pile up. that 2022-2023 stretch is already a lot, so discussions should be made long in advance, or falcom may need to beef up their numbers to hit more platforms themselves.
it's possible that if falcom starts doing ps5 and switch 2 simultaneously, that their releases also go back to having pc ports out after the console releases too.
This is nice and all, but looks like they would be able to get these out faster with completed script already.
Honestly, if Kuro comes West in 2024, Reverie being 2023 won't have mattered that much, and meanwhile, the "Crossbell problem" will finally be solved.
Bless backwards compatibility as it makes PS4/Switch releases a lot more viable even that far out.
Bless backwards compatibility as it makes PS4/Switch releases a lot more viable even that far out.
I imagine part of the reason they're trying to move away from the staggered releases now is that it's counter-intuitive for NIS to spend more money getting Switch and PC Ports produced and then release those versions later, with less marketing.
also consider this nightmare scenario:
early 2022: zero ps4
late 2022: zero nsw/pc
late 2022: azure ps4
early 2023: azure nsw/pc
early 2023: reverie ps4
late 2023: reverie nsw/pc
the marketing would overlap pretty bad. they'd be talking about zero to nsw and pc fans, and doing stuff for them, while also selling azure on ps4. ys viii and tocs iii had more noticeably staggered schedules with each major platform releasing separately (ys viii ps vita wasn't a major platform and it released alongside ps4). and all to... push the ps4 version first in a ps5 world?
On that note, at some point wouldn't it make more sense to produce a PS5 port as well?
getting games on ps5 is a good idea. it had to be a discussion somewhere. maybe they'll do a ps5 and xbox series release later.
With Xbox I imagine you still want to wait for Microsoft to pay to get it straight on Game Pass. You might not even be able to justify the minimum print run for physical copies.
And not ports for current consoles of games like the Sky trilogy or Cold Steel I & II? Or even Brandish or Zwei?
I have a hard time believing NISA is going to want to release, Azure, Revelry and Nyuta in the same year.
One of those games is going to get bumped up or back, you won't convince me otherwise haha.
One of those games is going to get bumped up or back, you won't convince me otherwise haha.
anything xseed did is basically off the table now and forever unless it means a new localization or if xseed does the porting on their own.
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The unfortunate thing about switching English publishers is having 5 games under a publisher that no longer has any incentive to grow the series as they no longer benefit from selling the latest games in the series. I don't blame Xseed. Why should they bother with this anymore? Sucks for fans, but that's Falcom's problem.
The only hope is if Falcom commission a port themselves. Xseed released the PS4 port of Celceta just last year. So they are still willing to release Falcom games. Just don't expect them to port the games themselves.
The only hope is if Falcom commission a port themselves. Xseed released the PS4 port of Celceta just last year. So they are still willing to release Falcom games. Just don't expect them to port the games themselves.