Nintendo was in trouble with the WiiU and Gamecube. Did they all of the sudden not know how to make games during those two generations?
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Ed Boon Poll Suggests That PS5 and Xbox Series X Pricing is the Most Important Factor for Many
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Price matched? Yes. Power matched ? Nope.
Additionally, marketing deals for Destiny, Batman and Black Ops 3 cemented the deal.
the narrative about games difference didn't really solidify until 2016.
It also won because of the games. Price is big yes but if both systems are the same price than it comes down to the games.
Nintendo fans were still around, they were just buying the handhelds instead of the consoles
Pricing is a factor in all products... this isn't just a console thing.
Also exclusives do matter. Nintendo is proof of that.
Also exclusives do matter. Nintendo is proof of that.
Oh, so they went from consoles to handhelds then back to consoles then back to handhelds?
How boring would that be if we talked more about multiplat games than exclusive material. /s
Sure but it does when its more powerful and your competition shoots out their own kneecaps. What im saying is ps4 didn't win because of Horizon or God of War they were dessert. It won because of Microsofts stupid policies decisions before launch, higher price, weaker console, and focus on tv apps instead if making the gaming experience front and center. Sony would've won even without a single exclusive.
Duh. The majority want the hottest new thing at the lowest possible price.
It's not what I base my own choice on, but it seems obvious to me that most people, especially parents, want value.
It's not what I base my own choice on, but it seems obvious to me that most people, especially parents, want value.
First party is a small factor. Most gamers care more about third party than first party. Sony had a massive advantage from the get go when it came to PS4 and Xbox One because MS shot themselves in the foot time and time again. Price, power, marketing, etc. all played a major role. The lack of exclusives narrative didn't come into play for several years after launch. Exclusives certainly help maintain success later in the generation, but they aren't the most important factor (or even the 2nd most important) at launch.
The Wii was so different from traditional consoles that it gave them a reason to buy it in addition to a handheld
Sure but like you said if, in the case of ps4 vs xbox, it wasn't just Sony doing good things (which they did we do have to give them credit) that won it for them it was also Microsoft doing bad things. They won by over 2 to 1 in sales, unlike last gen which was essentially a tie until like 2015.
Has Nintendo shared the percentage of who only uses Switch as a handheld?
I still think marketing along with momentum leading up to release plus pricing are the key factors in the beginning of every generation for consoles. Then it becomes about the games that keeps that momentum going. I'm not suggesting all things are created equal going into next gen because obviously Sony has earned its reputation, but those who says it's all about exclusives are the same people who constantly disrupt message boards with their tribal attitudes.
Nah not really. Just being cheap has never saved an unpopular console. See Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox One S etc.
Those games weren't there until 2 years after the fact. Bloodborne came out in 3015, UC4 in 2016, horizon 2017 etc. the race was over in March 2014 when Titanfall couldn't push a $500 box over the PS4.
The price is such a minor factor for me given that the difference would be $200 at most and the consoles will last 5+ years. It's all about features and games for me.
it was more than just that though, it was the third party deals, it was xbox pushing Kinect but all things being equal in price. Exclusive will be what pushes it
Seriously.
I don't understand these people that think the console market depends on POWER and FLOPS
It depends on what the hell people can afford lol.
Price is a big factor no matter how many delusional people want to believe that everyone is walking around with 1200 dollar phone that gets exchanged yearly for another 1200 dollar phone upgrade and using that to weirdly justify higher console prices being a fine thing as if a console even brings the same general utility value even if we accepted that absolutely idiotic premise.
It's all about power for me, but I admit I'm far from the norm. I'd gladly spend $600 on a mega beast of a machine.
I am very upset. I get the price that makes sense because you want to buy extra games and controllers BUT BC OVER EXCLUSIVES?
Bloodborne is already out so who gives a shit about any future exclusives. Now please make the Bloodborne plastic box $299.
Having access to previously purchased games, without needing to keep old hardware is bad?
If affordable price is the major factor I'd just stick with current gen. what the hell is the point of next gen benefits if no one is willing to pay for them?
I think a lot of people will hold off until microsoft offers a cheaper console, and it depends on what that looks like.
It is the lamest request ever. It is like you want to buy a new console for cool points and still play last gen games that you sold it to buy the new console. It makes no sense to me at all.
Obviously lol
PS4 got off to it's hot start because of the price, I legit spent $560+ for an Xbox one and dead rising 3, an extra $100 which stung
The two system approach Microsoft is doing will be pretty key
PS4 got off to it's hot start because of the price, I legit spent $560+ for an Xbox one and dead rising 3, an extra $100 which stung
The two system approach Microsoft is doing will be pretty key
In this day and age, with more and more stuff being digital, your stuff tends to be carried forward, like music, movies, etc. It's not strange to want the same with games, especially when a lot of them have long term support for online gaming. You can want new games and want to be able to play older games
I guess. I always thought it was "meh" to me and I'll be glad to die on that hill.
I love playing brand new games with shining cutting edge graphics, but sometimes i like replaying old classics or older titles that I have missed. What's wrong with that? People still play Diablo 2 or Final Fantasy VI. Moreover with GaaS games that are beyond console generations it's nice to have an option of maintaning progression after jumping to new console. People will still be playing Minecraft, Fortnite and Rainbow Six after Ps5 and Xbox launch. It's also a matter of convienience. People don't have unlimited space to hold their old hardware
You might actually be right. TES was always held back by the consoles' horrible CPUs (BGS's games are more CPU-intensive because of the amount of objects in the world). Now that the consoles will actually have very good CPUs, TES will likely make a huge leap forward.
It's fine to not care about that but a lot of people definitely do, especially since it also helps to reduce clutter in the house
I mean this is probably why Sony is waiting for MS' move. They must know $500 is what make sense right now but if push come to shove, they know they'll have to take an L to keep that price advantage over MS. The only conundrum is the fact that MS might have 2 consoles SKU to potentially sandwich the PS5.
I want better graphics and frame rate . I'll pay the premium if need be. I know I'm in the minority tho.
Exclusives should be much higher on that list. There's a reason PlayStation was able to continue leaving the Xbox in the dust well after the Mattrick disaster launch.