If I finish my replay of 1&2 before the Steam version releases, it seems like the X1X on resolution mode is the way to go. Love me some Borderlands.
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Digital Foundry: Borderlands 3 PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X Graphics Comparison
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Yeah, it's really annoying. Maybe it can be patched or something
I played control and it was really turned up on that game. Still, it didn't bother me much. I guess I like the effect heh
I find it insane that people would prefer to play this game at 30fps as opposed to 50-60fps. It's still so much smoother even with the dips. I tried the resolution mode and it feels choppier than most other 30fps games I've played.
Nearly everyone in the OT + another forum I go to seems to prefer performance mode for this game. Like it's been just about unanimous.
The 30fps option is damn near unplayable even compared to most other 30fps games. It's very choppy with no smoothing out of the frame rate at all. The performance mode may have dips but it's still so much smoother to play.
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That's interesting given it sounds like the DF crew sounded like they almost preferred it.
High end PCs are struggling with the game as well, and it's due to the GPU rather than the CPU.
Yeah it's weird. I have played many 30fps games and had no issue, BL3 though for whatever reason it just feels terrible.
Yeah it seemed a little choppy at times in the pro at 1080 performance but wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Glad I'm holding out for pc
Ive played about 30 hours on the x and its pretty much 60fps 95% of the time.
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Borderlands 2 was, and still is, notorious for being poorly optimized and a huge CPU hog. You would think since it's been 7 years since Borderlands 2 released they would have properly optimized the game? I guess not.
well, they did say they made a late shift to UE4 thus scrapping all their work they had on past games. Makes me think they just ran out of time
Same. On the first planet I would use night time to get up and stretch/get a drink/bathroom break until it turned daylight again because running or driving around outside was useless, couldn't see a thing.
ps4 pro on performance mode. its not great, but its still perfectly playable. awesome game btw.
That 30fps looks like a PC 30fps instead of a console 30fps. It was painful to watch.
So the big hardware advantage the X has was not utilized? That's disappointing for X owners.
I imagine in a patch or two they'll have things ironed out like they did with Battleborn.
- Higher density of foliage on Pro
- Higher level of anisotropic filtering on Pro
- Performance mode on both machines usually 50-60 and down to mid 40s with vehicles
- Resolution mode both 1800p, XBX almost locked to 30fps with rare 29fps dips. Pro 23-30fps (often at 28fps)
They think devs should be able to improve the framerate like they did in their previous game.
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I imagine the patch will not make the game use the X in a way that it reflects the hardware benefits it has over the Pro.
Also something to note that they tested only the early portions of the game. It will probably throw much more enemies and whatnot later on, so the perfromance will probably get worse the later you get in the game.
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Gears is almost always 60 fps during combat, the fuck you talking about.
It's gotta be the art style, right? Like, how do people keep posting this.
Tehcnically it's OBVIOUSLY miles ahead of BL2.
Obviously it should run better, I don't think it's where it should be for sure, but it is ABSOLUTELY a current gen game.
No joke, when I was watching the DF video I thought they were doing a comparison to BL2 and was waiting for the BL3 footage to come in... it took me a few minutes to realize that it was BL3 to begin with. The art style aside, the animations looked very canned and last gen - animations this gen have become much more reactive and sophisticated this gen, especially hit reactions and death animations but also how characters are affected by the environment, but this seems like it was using the same animations as before. And yeah, visually it still looks ugly and the way moving parts on the meshes look just looks like a low budget game. Sure, there are more modern rendering techniques at play here (especially lighting), but the assets really do the engine a disservice. Even John says the game does not feel like a massive leap forward in visual quality.
That post over-simplifies just how poor the framerate is.
The only way to play with a consistent framerate between the two is the One X in resolution mode, and even then that's 30. In performance mode, both never reach 60FPS, and drop frames like crazy (particularly the Pro), sitting typically in the low/mid 50s.
Resolution mode on the Pro is dismal, and seldom hits 30FPS, regularly reaching 23fps in combat.
It's definitely in the range where it's distinctly noticeable.
I guess DF are trolls/blind people now considering they weren't too impressed with the technical advancements of BL3 over the predecessors. (just echoing the dumb crap that some people in the OT were throwing at people)
This game is in a shoddy technical state on all platforms.
This game is in a shoddy technical state on all platforms.
Oh. I hope they will optimise FPS then even by few more frames.
After playing 10 hours of it so far, I haven't seen anything that I wouldn't have expected out of BL2 (though I played on PC, I'm playing on PS4 Pro right now). It might be because I'm sure it's on the same engine. There's no obvious stand outs in BL2 to BL3 for me compared to other generational leaps out of AAA games.
Even if it is the art style, there's still visuable improvements that can be made. I'm not seeing that. I'm sure there's technical improvements.
I reached a point in the game where the FPS was getting pretty bad on performance mode (Xbox One X). Tried checking out resolution mode, and I'm sorry, that's just not an option. The game just becomes sluggish.
I'll tolerate the occasional FPS drops, but it's kind of lame that your performance mode ain't really all that.
I'll tolerate the occasional FPS drops, but it's kind of lame that your performance mode ain't really all that.
Except that it is for the most part, and it holds it out far,far better then Borderlands 3 or similar games in ''performance mode''.
No modern game is gonna be a ''locked 60 fps'' on the consoles because there will be parts and encounters where the framerate will dip no matter what.
Weird that the PS4 pro version has better textures and texture filtering, along with more foliage.
Why didnt they reduce that in line it with the Xbox one x version so that the framerate can be more stable?
Why didnt they reduce that in line it with the Xbox one x version so that the framerate can be more stable?
Sounds like both versions need improvements. There's no reason for a asset to be less on the more powerful system. It's actually a little strange and sounds like they didn't really take advantage of the hardwaee then.
Yeah what kind of shit is that? At least let the two be on par then if they don't want to bother with taking advantage of the hardware . But the more powerful system is actually a little behind now? Come on now. No excuse for that.
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Have you forgotten what last gen looked like? Current gen has aged far more gracefully than PS1, or PS2 or PS3 in terms of performance or cutbacks to games required.
It's not that at all. They're either aiming too high or they have a badly optimised game, and seeing as it runs poorly even on the X One X I'd go with the latter.
Been playing on X1X in performance mode on a monitor mostly so I decided to run with performance mode. Looks a little assy and runs mostly okayish. Disappointing.
Visuals are good in Resolution mode. 30fps is fine aswell. Might go to that mode.
Visuals are good in Resolution mode. 30fps is fine aswell. Might go to that mode.
THere is no such thing as a "PC 30 FPS" - if anything, PC 30 fps has probably lower latency than the equivalent on a console.
Glad I held off a purchase, decided to go back and play The Pre-Sequel which I've hardly touched.
I'm truly sick of these unoptimised, poorly performing games being released at full price and then patched weeks after launch. If you buy on day one, by the time the patch arrives to fix basic performance issues you've usually moved on to something else. Control, Days Gone, Horizon, they all got much improved weeks and months after launch. It will be the same with Borderlands 3. Just no point jumping in at £60 digital. It's not even really the money, it's that you're getting a poorly performing game that you know should and will get fixed.
I'm truly sick of these unoptimised, poorly performing games being released at full price and then patched weeks after launch. If you buy on day one, by the time the patch arrives to fix basic performance issues you've usually moved on to something else. Control, Days Gone, Horizon, they all got much improved weeks and months after launch. It will be the same with Borderlands 3. Just no point jumping in at £60 digital. It's not even really the money, it's that you're getting a poorly performing game that you know should and will get fixed.
Thought about buying this spontaneously, even after deciding against it because I have already too f'n much to play, but I have a 2 week vacation now and though, hmmm maybe.
But holy f'n shit, what a mess, specially on the X. Less foliage, worse textures and worse filtering, what the heck?
And then an unstable 60fps mode that looks like ass and an unoptimized 30fps mode without any motion blur at all, awful.
Seems like they don't want my money.
But holy f'n shit, what a mess, specially on the X. Less foliage, worse textures and worse filtering, what the heck?
And then an unstable 60fps mode that looks like ass and an unoptimized 30fps mode without any motion blur at all, awful.
Seems like they don't want my money.
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The Res mode on the Xbox One X is almost unplayable its hangs all the time sometimes for like 3 seconds or more. I don't agree with Tom and DF about the graphics not being good, the game looks amazing and I love the style.