-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Devs react to PS5 specs - Twitter edition
- Thread starter Equanimity
- Start date
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't this directly effect things like LOD/Pop-in/draw distance detail etc...
in 3rd party games? Easier, more efficient development & optimization processes should also lead to more polished and refined ports overall. Why are people acting like the only way to see the benefits from PS5's SSD is to build games from the ground up with it mind?
in 3rd party games? Easier, more efficient development & optimization processes should also lead to more polished and refined ports overall. Why are people acting like the only way to see the benefits from PS5's SSD is to build games from the ground up with it mind?
It depends, actually, if a game still has load times. Some people are even constructing richer worlds and faster games than on XSX because of the SSD.
Another question is why people only see these benefits from PS5's SSD and not also from XSX SSD?
You really think Sony would spend years designing a console around certain features and not use them.
Kotaku splitscreen just had Jason saying he is getting tons of texts from people saying the ps5 is the more powerful console.
But if it's just Sony devs then who cares.
To me it's about the third parties, if they look identical then it comes down to the controller for that game and that's when Sony loses me to Xbox (for third party games)
But if it's just Sony devs then who cares.
To me it's about the third parties, if they look identical then it comes down to the controller for that game and that's when Sony loses me to Xbox (for third party games)
The downplaying of the SSD that the PS5 is using is pretty ridiculous to see. I can't understand why some of you have such an allegiance to a plastic box, hey the PS5 does something way better than the Xbox, why is it such a big deal? The Xbox has it beat in other places. It's okay for both these consoles to have advantages, doesn't make your little box any less special.
If that's the case, what do you think Microsoft exclusives for XSX and PC will be built around? The XSX (or Lockhart) SSD, with PC users expected to get something equivalent? Or whatever the most basic PC SSD is? And will that even matter that much if the random reads aren't actually that different?
You won't get that anytime soon. Not on these consoles and probably not even on a 3080 Ti when it's out. The impact of RT on performance is massive.
Because for some reason, people here ignore what actual devs say.
I think pop in is more a memory size problem, or GPU limit. It is not a speed problem (you can walk very slowly and things will appear. Go back slowly, disappearing).
Otherwise, yes. What is important is to build the game with SSD in mind. When it will be mandatory on PC (I think in 2 years), XBX SSD speed will be the norm.
Blinders? I am trying to figure it out as well - half speed is still magnatudes more than anyone had guaranteed previous, and that will probably do a lot for cross platform titles
Sony devs are naturally going to be biased towards the Sony platform, but at this stage, it's unlikely that many (or possibly any) 3rd party developers have hands-on experience with the PS5.
downplaying? if anything i'm seeing far more people believing the new SSD will cure even cancer. that just by having a faster SSD everything else will work better, faster, brighter, prettier, smoother, cause uhhhh the ssd is like the brain of the computer right, everything pass through it?
He literally asks devs what they want the most and then builds it. Dev opinions shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Despite the lower specs, the PS5 will do fine.
People on Era may be into these specs, but a lot of consumers don't even care. They own a PS4 and just want a PS5.
I remember showing off my X1X to my son, comparing RDR2 to his PS4Pro version. I was like ' damn, this looks great' . He couldn't care less.
Kids don't care and they just tend tot buy the console that most of their friends own. That happens to be the PS4 now ( none of his friends owns an Xbox ), and I think even a beast like Xbox Series X won't change that.
For the record, I'm probably gonna buy ( waiting for Halo Infinite ) both but don't think the power of a console can predict success. It's the games that sell consoles imo.
People on Era may be into these specs, but a lot of consumers don't even care. They own a PS4 and just want a PS5.
I remember showing off my X1X to my son, comparing RDR2 to his PS4Pro version. I was like ' damn, this looks great' . He couldn't care less.
Kids don't care and they just tend tot buy the console that most of their friends own. That happens to be the PS4 now ( none of his friends owns an Xbox ), and I think even a beast like Xbox Series X won't change that.
For the record, I'm probably gonna buy ( waiting for Halo Infinite ) both but don't think the power of a console can predict success. It's the games that sell consoles imo.
3D bark and moss and ants for each tree?
Great, we will get Ant-gate for TLOU3 or whatever now 🤣
And I don't get the complaints about PS5 power. Both next-gen consoles are seemingly great. Why does one have to "win" on specs. I predict next-gen will be about smart use of upscaling, VRS, data management etc, not brute force native 4k, so both will easily run the same games.
The more custom things PS5 packs seem to be easy-ish to use, so it's not like ESRAM or Cell is being shoves down anybody's throat.
Great, we will get Ant-gate for TLOU3 or whatever now 🤣
And I don't get the complaints about PS5 power. Both next-gen consoles are seemingly great. Why does one have to "win" on specs. I predict next-gen will be about smart use of upscaling, VRS, data management etc, not brute force native 4k, so both will easily run the same games.
The more custom things PS5 packs seem to be easy-ish to use, so it's not like ESRAM or Cell is being shoves down anybody's throat.
If one is wanting Horizon 2 with full RT in open world, that ain't happening short of the tech wizardry one gets from making arcane deals with eldritch powers.
I think we'll see it used more selectively to enhance scenes this gen, or with smaller, less performance intensive games.
As for how each console will look and feel? I think by in large most games will probably run smoother on XSX but titles that are data streaming heavy may run a bit better on ps5.
I think we'll see it used more selectively to enhance scenes this gen, or with smaller, less performance intensive games.
As for how each console will look and feel? I think by in large most games will probably run smoother on XSX but titles that are data streaming heavy may run a bit better on ps5.
I still dont get any sentiment that variable speeds for gpu and cpu are "more efficient architecture"
What game are you referring to that can't run on XSX because of the SSD?
Also,I'd take a better experience overall than shave 3-4 seconds on my initial loading any day of the week.
God if my stupid prediction that lockheart is a PC/Xbox technology bridge comes true I will gibber.
This is very different. I can tell you from my own experience an SSD is a game changer just in terms of load times if you have one on PC, if you build the entire hardware around having it - which is what consoles do - it will only push that further.
It WILL be the defining factor of this generation. And it wouldn't even have needed Sonys faster SSD for it to be one.
Fast loading, highest resolution and framerates, high quality textures, quick resume on several games at once, basically anything PS5 will do but instead of turning the knob to 10, turned up to 11!
I don't say a game doesn't run and I also take not part in constructing theoretical cases where a PS5 game is leaps and bounds better than an XSX game but it's still happening nonetheless.
ya we'll see when the consoles launch. they alway slike to hype them up and then they end up like this generation, lacking and underwhelming.
I still really don't understand how a slightly faster SSD on PS5 will impact games that much. An SSD is still inordinately slower than cpu cache and memory ram. You can load things much quicker but you'll still be waiting on them and have to preload them and use much smaller tricks to have them their in time. Maybe less stuttering, but I'm sure devs will still figure out how to make things stutter.
As someone who doesn't know a lot of the nitty-gritty technical stuff, my general impression from what I've read is that 1) the system only lowers the speed when it won't impact the output - you get the same results but the system runs cooler/quieter and 2) there are fewer bottlenecks so the system runs smoother & is able to take advantage of its full speed. Whether any of this is actually true, who knows, but based on history, Cerny knows what he's doing when it comes to designing game systems.
Downplaying?
People are losing their shit over it lol. I've seen posts that say that SSD will deliver the cure for COVID-19.
Are you talking about the general audience or this site? Cause if it's the latter, it's quite the opposite.
Remember the pallets in Last of Us or unskippable cutscenes or characters giving each other a boost over tall structures?
All done to hide loading screens or new areas.
With SSD devs won't be hamstrung with those design decisions.
yeah, I'm not even sure anymore how to build my new PC... idk if I need to wait for the RTX3080 and a Zen3 CPU or start putting together a NAS like server filled with SSDs
Umm no one is saying that? Xsx will have better lod/draw distance than regular hard drives but PS5 will be better than xsx in these simply because it has a 100% faster drive.
The problem with pc games and ssd's is that most games aren't made with them in mind. So playing pc games from an NVME drive was pretty much negligible compared to a standard SSD. I'm excited to see how games developed exclusively around a super fast ssd will work.
The SSDs are indeed quite exciting. Game Devs will be able to design their game with this specification in mind, which is a first in game development, right? Even PC only games can't afford this because they have to keep a large amount of different specifications in mind. Im looking forward to how this will change games.