You know what happens when you act smug online?
You know what happens when you type out "shrugs"?
You wanna know what happens?
Huh?
Do ya?
Sure why not
edit: btw I'm not trying to be a dick, and I don't think I'm some great player either. If anything I'm just above average, maybe not even that depending on who I'm playing with tbh, but I've played pretty much every shootbang solo since none of my friend's are gamers and my brother doesn't play FPS games. I honestly think people kinda exaggerate the PvP situation in Destiny and talk about it as if it's some insurmountable obstacle when a different perspective is usually more important than the right weapon, teammates or map. Anyway, I'm very tired but I'll try add something more productive to the conversation.
If things aren't going great for you in comp (before I got my recluse and revoker, I hovered at 800 for a day or two because I fell back into old habits) I think there are a couple of things to consider that might help people out.
- It's
competitive, make sure you're actually in a competitive mindset before going into the playlist. I know this sounds silly, but I might have been thinking more about trying out a new Austringer roll, or just thinking that 1 game in comp might not hurt since it's the last game before I go to bed or I can get my weekly through this game and you just aren't in the mindset for this shit if you're doing that. Comp time is considered time, don't play it on a whim but don't be too serious too n_n
- Make sure you're not holding any PvE weaponry. Go to the tower, drop your shit off, (better yet, have the app on your phone so you can swap in and out as you please) make sure you have a gun for every possible engagement and range and get your armour perks proper for a slew of different weapons and you're good to go, although I understand if you need to be fashionable before functional.. Obvs some guns might work well for both, just make sure you've got the proper alternatives (especially a shotgun or handcannon for both slots even if they're not great)
- If it isn't working, stop doing it? I actually do this a
lot, especially in quickplay. Going back to the place you died at in the last round, trying to own that lane against the sniper instead of flanking him, using the same weapon, tactics or subclass when it hasn't been working. So many times we'd lose the first two matches and then I'd swap pretty much everything I'm using, and I'd feel more comfortable, or I'd kill the guy who keeps clowning me. It wouldn't always work, but if by the second round you're getting no joy I honestly don't think it can hurt.
- Fuck the meta. You know how many times I thought fuck it and whipped out the fighting lion because I just wasn't getting in the game (don't actually know if fighting lion is meta, all I know is I'm very bad with it and I will never attempt the mountaintop quest), and it just happened to be the perfect weapon to counter the entire enemy team's tactics and positioning at the time. Don't use lord of wolves and stuff like that, no cheese will really help if you ask me. There was always the one using it but I swear they get found out first and they'd tend to fritter away the early advantage throughout the game because that shit is predictable, unless they're acutally good in which case they will merk you with whatever, barely matters at that point. I think it's a great time to be versatile in Destiny. I was looking through the collections the other day and I was honestly shocked at how many guns and playstyles there are, especially when considering the exotics. A few days ago I posted about about a game I lost against 4 titans with rally barricade and sweet business, it was nuts, tried it all and couldn't beat them, GG. Right now there are a lot of snipers around, especially because of the Revoker quest - if you're not a great sniper just don't do it, get what you need in Quickplay first. Play more aggressively, right now a lot of the guys sniping won't be elite until you stand still for them.
- Like I said before you gotta back your team. I get annoyed when I feel like people aren't in the right position, and I usually predict what is about to happen well enough but maybe your team is thinking something different, or (this happens in rocket league too) one or more players might be too closely aligned with what you're currently doing. in the same lane, looking at the same threats, at the same range, in the same spot, etc. Obviously you gotta play your game, but I think playing for the cause requires you to do some things you might not wanna do at the time if you wanna win. As well as that, pay attention to how your team is doing at the time. If one player is doing well, it might actually be better to let them go alone down that lane and flank or support the weaker members, maybe go solo yourself if you have the breathing space.
- If you're tilted, just stop playing. Winning 3 and losing 4 might not be the worst thing considering the weekly reset bonus and if necessary that is a possible route toward the Recluse. You will lose games. Sometimes your team will be awful, sometimes you'll be awful, but remember it's the same with your opponents. Don't lose hope because they have the same fucking clan tag, so many times people go on about 4 stacks or whatever and when you play them its just 4 people that know each other and like Destiny 2, not sweaty 24/7 gamers. They do exist obviously, but when they show up just take the L and move on. I remember a game where we loaded in 3v4, I'm thinking thats because one player saw they had the same clan tag and they looked kitted out in terms of weapons, masterworks all, but I swear it was one of the easiest games of comp in recent memory. I'll also add here, if you keep getting matched against the same people and they keep beating you... Maybe play a bit later? I've done this before, because I
wanted to play the fuckers that just bodied us and I got my wish and it kept happening. That's not what you're here for.
I can't vouch for LFGs and stuff like that, but I just remembered that I did play like 9 games in a group getting my Recluse. A guy on my team sent me an invite after my third game of the night and in that game I did much better than him - as it turns out, this guy is
way better than I am. If you vibe with someone on your team, and you think you have decent enough synergy, just send an invite after - worked for me and this guy (we didn't even communicate, and IMO you shouldn't really do too much of that in Destiny if you're not comfortable with your skills - there's far too much happening on screen at once to try to communicate that and it ends up being noise to me. Work on your own game and predicting scenarios on each of the maps. Easier deal with what's on your own plate lol). You still have to play with 2 randoms in this case, but they could be great or awful too, forget that though, focus on your game.
I have soooo many bad habits in D2. I never really know when to hold territory and usually end up poorly co-ordinated with my team's movements unless I make sure to think about it - usually ending up in a 1v3/4 against the other team because I'm chasing a kill, especially because I'm really hasty and I like those situations in quickplay, even though I should be trying to stay alive. I'm awful in 1v1 at range, and if I don't get the first shot in, I'm usually dead but I like to commit and see if I can win this one? lol. If you're jumping I'll probably miss every headshot. I don't peek with emotes. I'm no good weapons like the Colony or Wardcliff, even though they specialise in easy kills. But because I think about these issues of mine a lot when playing I try hard to offset those aspects. And if you really think you're not good, but you also really want the Recluse I think a week of solid quickplay and you'll be ready for most of what comp has to throw at you. You'll have to mainline it though.
Despite everything I just wrote, if you don't like Destiny 2 PVP, none of that will be useful. I actually like Destiny PVP so I put in effort to improve at it. I got into Destiny late, so by the time I played D1 I didn't know shit and got toyed with by people who had shit like Thorn and Icebreaker. I didn't know how you even got those weapons haha, and I'd take my Zhalo Supercell (Still the best gun in Destiny history don't @ me) into crucible and basically hope for the best. Total newb. I made it through the Uriel's Gift and Vigilance Wing *shudder* meta and actually love this shit now, but even at it's worst I still liked it. If you don't even like it... I just wouldn't. Even more so if you
hate it.
I loved the shit out of The Division 2 but you honestly couldn't entice me to play that game's PVP for something like the Recluse. The raid also sucked >_>; but enough about that
Hopefully a better post than before.
