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Democratic Presidential Primaries & Caucuses |March OT| Last Tuesday was 1000 years ago, old news no one cares about (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
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One thing is certain for me, he should've disabled donation links as of last night. If he wants to coast on money already earned, whatever. Still accepting donations in a lost cause? Not a good look IMO.
Good. Don't know how I missed that.
I feel like the people demanding Bernie to drop out are the same people who are dangerous to our democratic process. They just want to be told who to vote for, they don't want there to be a true primary.
People have already decided which candidate is best positioned, Bernie.
Keep rejecting the will of the voters and shitting all over black voters especially.
Keep rejecting the will of the voters and shitting all over black voters especially.
I hope Joe doesn't show at the debate and still kills Bernie in the polls. Bernie is a sore loser.
As he should, these issues are important and polling shows people care about it but electability is an issue in their mind. Push Biden on these issues in front of the people and further the cause.
This is what I'm looking for. The DNC can frankly go f*ck themselves right now.
Who is his message going to that hasn't heard it already? It's the same message, the same stump speech, the same thing on loop.
We get it, we voted, and now we want to move forward.
Those attacks will get repeated in ads and be referenced.
bernie doesn't owe biden his endorsement
if biden offers him enough policy concessions for the election platform, i'm sure he'd consider dropping out. ball is in biden's court
I hope Bernie gets rolled next Tuesday and we get another 'I'm winning the young vote' speech.
Are the people defending sanders staying in the same people who bullied warren for not dropping out?
He should transition to fundraising for the progressive movement in general.
I never understood how him staying in hurts the dems? Assuming you trust and have faith in the front runner, how does this not just bolster Biden's support leading into the election? It only works to allow him to showcase his policies and really show that he deserved the nomination.
Bernie's speech was all about telling Joe how to get younger voters more excited for him, it started out with him bashing trump and it ended with him bashing trump. Bernie did 40 rallies for Hillary, I'm sure he will do even more for Biden.
We've been having a primary for the past year or more. Biden won.
It kind of sounded like he might drop out after the debate. Anyone else think this is a possibility?
I don't see why Biden would offer him any concessions.
He clearly wants to keep his message alive, and their clash of ideals will be even clearer in the debate.
You can still vote for him even with a suspended campaign. He won't be removed from the ballot.
It comes from bad-faith, disingenuous arguments based on privilege, usually. Tone-policing has become full on ad-hominem attacking with casual insults and blanket statements left and right without regard to any of the people who are actually affected by the policies that need changing the most.
We just had Bernie supporters and surrogates melting down completely over Liz Warren not backing out. Still are.
They're trying to set up the same thing they've done for the last four years where they blame Bernie supporters/Russia/Comey/dirtbag left/whatever for their terrible candidate's loss.
I don't really buy the unity angle. The vast majority of Sanders voters are going to vote for Biden in the general without sweating it. Some contingent will not (and boy oh boy will they constantly tell us that!), but they aren't going to be swayed by Bernie giving Biden a lukewarm endorsement.
But, Bernie staying in even though the primary is over means that voters will be forced to watch progressive ideas get fucking ruined at the ballot box, over and over. How does that help the movement???
But, Bernie staying in even though the primary is over means that voters will be forced to watch progressive ideas get fucking ruined at the ballot box, over and over. How does that help the movement???
The sudden disdain for Bernie in this thread is fucking weird
I thought that was great. I don't honestly see him hanging in there much past the debate. All of you who have this perception of Bernie as selfish and vain are way off... I'm sorry you feel that way, but chill for just a little bit. And PLEASE remember that his staying in for now is also going to help get out the vote for down ballot races
He's made it clear over and over and over that if he doesn't win he'll support and endorse the candidate.
He's made it clear over and over and over that if he doesn't win he'll support and endorse the candidate.
It's Sanders. Being contentious is the least surprising thing he could do.
if biden wants to end the primary quickly it would be a way to accomplish that
if he wants to drag it out, sure, he could avoid offering anything. up to him to decide what would be best for his chances in november
If we're assuming Biden were to sign his plans as laws:
- There'd be a public option for health insurance subsidized by the government. You'd likely still have to pay a premium under the government public option.
- Many Trump-era tax cuts will likely be reversed over time
Trump's tax cuts are unsustainable without massive cuts to the federal budget, which Trump has not done and is very unlikely to be done under a Democratic president.
"We have a viral pandemic and it's irresponsible to ask people to come out and vote for you when you cannot win" is not a bad-faith, disingenuous argument coming from privilege.
If he wanted to jog it out Hillary 08 style in a normal circumstance that'd be fine and I said as much over the past week. This is no longer a normal circumstance.
The only people who would think that are those unaware the exact same calls to drop out happen every single primary when the end result bcomes certain.
Bernie isn't special in this regard.
yeah. charitable, but i think he's using the debate to publicize his pitch to biden. it wouldn't surprise me if the biden camp is currently unreceptive to negotiating behind the scenes. kinda cool but i still think just dropping out would be better for him
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