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Day’s Gone director Jeff Ross will be live with David Jaffe as they discuss the recent Schreier article!
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And again, that is Jaffe's push; Ross has the entire time tried to avoid landmines. He went old man yells at clouds regarding millennials.
I mean, I won't judged the content of the game, but which other game launched in such a buggy state from others SIE studios?
On that front, it's definitively the weakest link.
Yeah didn't meant to imply it was Jeff, Jaffe is a machine of bad takes.
You're right, but now after he explaining his point of view things are a bit different than I first thought lol.
That's the first time they have met each other supposedly. When he heard Jaffe wanted an interview, he probably thought it was still 2000's Jaffe.. and he could relate and joke about about similar experiences at Sony. But nope.. as soon as David started talking/pushing his perception of masculinity in the game... I stopped watching. I don't know how Jaffe's other videos are, but he'll have less and less credible people on his show with his approach....imo.
Wish Jeff Ross went to Richard Ham (former Bend Designer) for an interview instead.
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Oh yeah he's not wrong. At the time the general consensus was pretty negative. It's only after a while that the tide changed once patches came.
I just found it funny how it was said, and the way Jeff reacted to it. There have been several times when Jeff has wanted a black hole to suck him up.
I'm finding parts of this interview entertaining. It's really off the cuff questions, as opposed to a "proper interview" with prepared questions etc.
The thing is ,… Jaffe is no journalist.
He can be biased, he is a normal guy.
A journalist has different obligations.
I feel like Jeff ross is saying one thing and Jaffe is just completely just saying something else and pushing a narrative truth that he has zero visibility to.
Jeff - "Sony is still very supportive and hands-off, in general they try not to take risks but they still take risks and that's refreshing"
Jaffe - "So , you can't get anything greenlit like syphon filter anymore"
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Jeff - "Sony is still very supportive and hands-off, in general they try not to take risks but they still take risks and that's refreshing"
Jaffe - "So , you can't get anything greenlit like syphon filter anymore"
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TBH, it isn't. Jaffe is pushing a vindictive narrative and Ross is legit trying to keep solid relationships with Sony. Nothing is coming from this interview.
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I think he tried to, to see if there was any more to that Jason Bloomberg article or extract something juicy, but it seems like Jeff isn't biting, and is instead implying that Sony has a good balance between being hands off and allowing freedom, but still maintaining some focus on ROI in order to be able to fund the next game or maintain a level of ambition in design.
Jaffe *tries to bring sony down in a passive agressive way*
Jeff "sony is quite hands off and still takes risks. they still trusts developers tremendosly. that's something i miss while working with sony"
Jaffe *tries to trash sony again*
lmao
i have a feeling Jaffe expected this to go in a different direction.
Jeff "sony is quite hands off and still takes risks. they still trusts developers tremendosly. that's something i miss while working with sony"
Jaffe *tries to trash sony again*
lmao
i have a feeling Jaffe expected this to go in a different direction.
You mean Sony Studios? If so, that's for sure. Santa Monica and Naughty Dog are always fighting for those who do more/better... And there's that phrase from Druckmann saying that ND had to do better on their next game after they saw the Horizon ZD vegetation system.
Probably the only interview for a while. Nothing major - he had replied originally that he would talk to this guy next year, but then deleted it.
Which is pretty reasonable and makes total sense from a business perspective. Jaffe is really trying to start something that isn't there. This whole thing is so overblown, it's unreal.
Like, Jeff isn't really saying anything is bad at Sony and people are grasping at straws for something more. This Schreier article is so overblown and this interview is really showing how overblown this whole thing is.
That's basically what I expected from this.
Jaffe just trying to push his agenda.
Which they attribute to the plain reason that they're operating in huge budget games but aren't as cash rich as microsoft. which is reasonable.
Lmao wonder what his era account is. Considering how much hate there is for those two in particular he could be like 90% of the posters here.
Constantly Jaffe trying to start shit, Ross constantly, nah I don't know they seem really amazing.
IMO it's very much worth it. How often do we get these kinds of insightful anecdotes of what working in the AAAA industry is like? Yeah Jaffe constantly makes terrible takes but Jeff's doesn't take the bait and his answers are fantastic.
I don't know I've heard those sjw games media folks hate gruff sad white dudes
It's almost like Jeff's perspective sounds reasonable enough and the journalist simply wants juice. /s
Its also absolutely crazy for anyone who played the game. It is a dude trying to find out what happened to his wife and living by a code of not hurting people who don't deserve it.
Jaffe is a clown so this is really not surprising, I really wish Jeff reached Jason instead of him, I imagine if he can tell these stuff here he could have said the same with Jason or like, any decent Journalist out there.
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I took it as him fishing based on the negative comments towards Jim Ryan.
Do you think Jaffe wouldn't want a response that unleashes a load of negativity towards things.
To me he's tried several times to fish for something more than a canned PR response.
Jeff doesn't want to burn any bridges so the last thing he's going to do is say anything negatively about people like that.
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So far, this is my take as well. Jaffe is trying to get him to give definitive answers to certain questions; unfortunately, those answers could be the type that burn bridges. Some (ok, a fair bit) of Jaffe's questions are...about leading, but, he did say the beginning that he'll ask any questions that people who donates ask a question.
