Mostly, yes. Asgard would've still been blown to bits. It's in the title. I think you guys are overreacting with how big of a tone shift the two movies were.
There wasn't a plan for Rey though, in the literal sense. I mean, you can say she's a nobody, but that informs nothing of how her character arcs over the three movies, how she grows into her own as a Jedi (or not), which is the most important. So, nah, they didn't have a plan.
You forgot about TLJ, but this was good too!The last REAL Star Wars movie there is.
to be fair, split saber staves were already a thing. Ventress had it until they stopped
"I literally was told that was she no one" seems like a pretty straight forward confirmation that she was, well, told that Rey was no one! Shortly after TFA came out she also remarked that she was surprised that people were still speculating about Rey's lineage because she thought the movie put that matter to bed already.
For better or worse, Rey's arc is built around her origin, and specifically her trying to chase down where and who she comes from, what that means for her role in the story, and how she defines herself accordingly. Rey being a nobody vs. being the descendant of someone who is definitely not a nobody weighs hugely on her character arc. That is, in the literal sense, a plan!
I had blocked that movie out of my head because I thought it was okay but figured the more I would think about it the less I would like it. And yeah, after reading your post I'm so deflated by how stupid it was. Sigh.
The last REAL Star Wars movie there is.
Especially now that directors and writers know what they're getting into. They used to have a lot of directors dropping off projects because of having to adhere to their overall picture.
JJ might've wanted to go that route, but lack of communication with Rian and Kathleen caused that route to be all fucked up.
Yea again, that's not how film making works. That doesn't even take into account post production which can result in a completely different film than intended. You know, the exact thing that made the director of the last film quit in the first place.
They didn't have an initial official plan and given how TFA was written the answer must've changed a bunch of times while they were filming the movie. Compared to TLJ which arguably has the smoothest production of any SW film ever made based on reports. TROS's production was so messy that you can even find contradictions in the documentary as the writers talk about stuff that either wasn't in the movie or got rewritten after they filmed that part of the doc.
But it was dark and gritty and was loaded with OT nostalgia and Vader murked a bunch of randos in a hallway so therefor it's the best SW film since Empire.
Rogue One has a great climax but it lacks the character work required to carry the emotional weight of that climax. I know it made a billion but I have no idea how they figured that people wanted a show based off one of it's characters.
But it's not a plan of action. You can see where those plot threads might lead, but without any idea of how they actually coalesce, then it isn't a plan. Nolan's talked about it a bit with his Dark Knight trilogy. Obviously he didn't get to do exactly what he wanted because of Heath's passing, but he knew the literal ending to Bruce's story for a while.
You're telling a guy in the industry that ain't how it works lol only on the internet.
*Backstage drama more interesting than the actual stories being told
Oh, that makes more sense.Easier belt storage.
This saber and Freddie Prince Jr reprising his role as Kanan really makes me think that someone must've been a big fan of rebels. It's really stupid to have her ignite it with both sides face the same direction though.
It's amazing and sad how it retroactively weakened his own movie as well as Rian's.
That a company like Disney would take a franchise like Star Wars, and create a new trilogy but with no clear direction is fucking insane to me.
The plot of the film wasn't just "Asgard gets blown up." There are character arcs, set pieces, villains, etc. all of which is vastly affected by the tone of the film. In fact, the writer of the film was literally told to not feel restrained by the last two films because they weren't as well received as the studio heads would've liked.
This is like saying that Obi-wan used force healing on Luke in ANH and that force healing was always a thing in SW. As in, fans coming up with nonsensical explanations behind coincidences. Rey didn't use Palpatine's fighting style, because that's not how SW works. And it shouldn't be how it works.
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Those things of course would change, but like I've been talking this whole time the broader strokes of the film would mostly still be intact. Thor's character arc was set up in the first film, and would be consistent no matter who was in charge. The set pieces, villains, etc could all change, but the bigger plot point of "Ragnarok" and how Thor's arc resolves out of it would remain the same.
No joke, this is what I want them to do.
No it wasn't.Lightsaber combat
Lightsaber combat occurred when two or more opponents using lightsabers, or at least one of the combatants used a lightsaber while the other used a different bladed weapon, engaged in a duel. Such opponents were often, though not always, Sith and Jedi. Though lightsaber combat decided the...
uh... it is though ? It's been a thing for ages. It was planted as a hint.
I'm not complaining that SW didn't have the explicit explicit details of the trilogy planned out.
Lightning is apparently genetic but not an entire combat form. That's like saying that Luke is a pilot specifically because he's Vader's son and that nothing anyone does in SW matters.Tell that to Chris Terrio. It's genetic.
Yet another way Abrams tried to ape from TLJ, this time from the casino scene.
i agree it was definitely the management. it was clear this car ride had no driver
a good message does not make a good movie, in fact a the quality of the movie muddies the good message
