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Culture of Gaming: The Pokémon Expansion Pass Is Just What The Series Needed
- Thread starter Angie
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These games could have been a bust, like XY. Pokémon games are the type of games that you revisit over the years, but XY were so bad and devoid of story and gameplay that they are not worth replaying.
These expansion passes are the saving grace for Sword and Shield, because they would've collected dust in our collections otherwise.
These expansion passes are the saving grace for Sword and Shield, because they would've collected dust in our collections otherwise.
I guess it's such a departure from the third game entry model that it may take some time for people to get accustomed to the idea.
It kind of reminds me of when Fairy Type Pokemon were introduced. A lot of people were unhappy of how drastically it changed certain Pokemon.
Careful now, the DLC Contents may have 20 more hours of Hop Cutscenes in them.
While I, at first, wasn't too happy with the announcements I'll agree that this is better the. A third version (or Ultra games).
However! There are still glaring issues with Sw&Sh.
Game felt too short, no dungeons, many performance issues and many of the old pokemon seemingly had old models imported (the new ones defo had better animations).
And the removalof the GTS is such a weird step back.
I enjoyed my time with Sw&Sh but it really felt like a quirky indie game more then a game made by experienced devs working on a 20y old franchise.
However! There are still glaring issues with Sw&Sh.
Game felt too short, no dungeons, many performance issues and many of the old pokemon seemingly had old models imported (the new ones defo had better animations).
And the removalof the GTS is such a weird step back.
I enjoyed my time with Sw&Sh but it really felt like a quirky indie game more then a game made by experienced devs working on a 20y old franchise.
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The day I understand why you troughout threads out yourself as someone who loathes Pokemon but still NEEDS both versions, might be the day I stop countertrolling you.
Wouldn't hold my breath however.
Is it really what the series needs though?
It's good, don't get me wrong, but to me, it only feels good because it's better in comparison to the crap they were doing before. Of course if you do something bad long enough that it becomes normal, then normal itself becomes good.
I think Pokemon needs to mix things up, inject some fresh ideas, have more of a bite to it and more time in the oven. It needs to be more fleshed out and polished.
It's good, don't get me wrong, but to me, it only feels good because it's better in comparison to the crap they were doing before. Of course if you do something bad long enough that it becomes normal, then normal itself becomes good.
I think Pokemon needs to mix things up, inject some fresh ideas, have more of a bite to it and more time in the oven. It needs to be more fleshed out and polished.
Maybe not 5 years but they definitely need to put more time than usual into the next gen. It really depends on if the media cycle they have going will allow Game Freak to do that.
I agree that it's a better choice than releasing a "complete" version a year later, but what the series needs is more development time. There's just too much stuff to do now for each new generation and they can't keep the same pace they've had until now. I loved Sword and Shield, but it's very obvious they had to cut some corners here and there to finish it in time.
I'll say this:
I certainly wouldn't have been interested in buying a hypothetical "third version" of these games, but the expansion pass? I'm all over it. It's cheaper than a new game would be, and it's building on what I've already done in my game vs making me start from scratch.
This being said (and has been said already by others) - more content in the respect that the expansion pass is bringing isn't really what the series needs. I will say, the fact that the new areas of the Pass are all open world - now that's an exciting direction, to me.
I certainly wouldn't have been interested in buying a hypothetical "third version" of these games, but the expansion pass? I'm all over it. It's cheaper than a new game would be, and it's building on what I've already done in my game vs making me start from scratch.
This being said (and has been said already by others) - more content in the respect that the expansion pass is bringing isn't really what the series needs. I will say, the fact that the new areas of the Pass are all open world - now that's an exciting direction, to me.
Saying you're not supposed to buy both versions isn't the same as "defending a corporation".
When it's used to counter an argument to not be more pro-consumer it sure is.
Expansion pass is an incredible improvement over the third version. Not only from a price standpoint, but a player experience as well: You get to dive straight into the new content instead of just retreading the same game until you get to the good stuff.
But the expansion pass isn't going to win me over as someone who skipped Sword and Shield.
But the expansion pass isn't going to win me over as someone who skipped Sword and Shield.
You are desperate to make a useless purchase to support a tiny corporation and I simply spell that out. I suck as defender. Maybe I should loathe them, seems to be a much better way of supporting them, while masquerading it.
season pass is good now bc it's pokemon doing it lol. oh and bc they used to charge $40 for a new game but now it's $30 for dlc so it's also better. nintendo & gf will never fix this series lol
I mean, it is better. It remains to be seen how actually substantial the new content is, but dropping the third version nonsense while keeping the expansions they bring is a good thing.
And I say this as someone who skipped Sword and Shield and isn't planning on coming back for this DLC.
This is my son and I second Pokémon (played Let's Go last year) and I'm glad we're getting an expansion and not a third release, simply because I wouldn't have bought another standalone game. New games are just too expansive. This DLC (while not cheap) is the best scenario for us and I'm glad this is what we're getting. We're hyped.
I mean they're not, unless you're counting characters being interchangeable in the story for eachother as "non-transferable" when they're irrelevant.
But they are. Is locking away rivals good now? Should we champion them for locking away NPCs be them irrelevant or not? Like, couldn't they write the story including them both? It was their option to write them as "irrelevant" and lock them behind specific expansion versions.
I know we can compare it with meaningful exclusive lore related stuff previous Pokemon games did, but that goes as I said first, in a shorter version, "not as bad as previous Pokemon games, but it is still bad".