Nobody can watch the Thanos vs. Iron Man fight and come away thinking that Iron Man wouldn't turn Cap into quivering jelly.
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Could Captain America beat Iron Man in a fair fight? (MCU)
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I think we watched different fights. Tony had his suit study Cap's moves mid-fight and promptly kicked his ass. He didn't want Cap dead, which is why he told him to stay down instead of blowing his head off
The real question is which of the MCU can survive the galactic beams of light Galeem brought out.
It's a shame they resorted to the computer crap, even when it got down to a 1v1. It really killed that fight for me. I know it's a lame word, but that moment really was just...lame.
I mean yeah. Nothing in Thanos face indicates he was actually needing to put effort.
Was actually one of the best scenes in the whole movie.
Iron Man had prepared for Thanos for 6yrs, threw everything he had left at Thanos, and still only drew a drop of blood. This was Stark living out his worst nightmare in front of audiences.
At the beginning of the hand-hold it looks like Thanos is trying not to laugh
No suit Tony has enough self defense training to not get immediately assassinated by Bucky and Home Alone a bunch of terrorists. Pre-serum Steve got beat up by some random asshole
What arc reactor?
You mean the one he could just instantly reform with nanomachines (son) if it were broken?
No suit Tony has enough self defense training to not get immediately assassinated by Bucky and Home Alone a bunch of terrorists. Pre-serum Steve got beat up by some random asshole
Nevermind that Tony has been fighting as Iron Man for years at the point of CW lmao
And then Cap got up and beat up Tony, and smashed up his suit. I've been quoted a million times in this thread now, but i don't think it's as clear cut Iron Man as you would think.
No suit Tony has enough self defense training to not get immediately assassinated by Bucky and Home Alone a bunch of terrorists. Pre-serum Steve got beat up by some random asshole
Nah , Steve Wins and Iron Man Sucks. That's just the law of the land, sorry, bye.
Steve isn't the peak human condition, he has superhuman strength.
It makes a little sense in that he designed all of those suits to assemble and disassemble themselves on the fly at any given moment so in-turn they wouldn't be as structurally solid as his previous suits.
I mean it technically wasn't a fair fight at first as Cap had Bucky helping him.
Steve was doing the same. He was buying time for Bucky to escape. It's also why he buries the shield in the reactor instead of through Tony's neck.
He can't reform the arc reactor. As soon as that's broken the rest of the nanomachine suit would fall off of him like breadcrumbs.
Because if you replace Tony with Steve in that fight, Steve dies instantly.
Alienous said:
The arc reactor doesn't exist until it is formed by the nanomachines. As he tells pepper, the thing on his chest is just a housing unit.
This means it's just as replaceable as the rest of his armor components
Thanos has to somewhat try against Tony, knows him by name, and talks about how much he respects him after the fight is over.
Thanos stands limply in front of Cap, fascinated by what he's trying to do to his hand, and then smiles and ends the fight with one simple punch.
The duel with Batroc on the tanker at the beginning of Winter Soldier is completely hand-to-hand, I think. The actor who played Batroc is a renowned Québécois Mixed Martial Arts champion. The entire tanker raid is a showcase for Steve as the ultimate supersoldier.
Cap would beat Avengers 1 era Stark because Stark's suits at that point where still bulky, and the arc reactor was a giant glaring weakness for Stark because not only was it the source of the suits power but it was also actively keeping Tony alive. After Tony got the shrapnel out of him the arc reactor still remains a weakness but less of one, and Stark's suit tech seems to make massive jumps after he original purpose of the arc reactor is gone.
Tony because his nano tech iron man suit is basically magic. He can make it do whatever he wants. What is cap gonna do if he just flies up and bombards Cap with shit from the sky?
Also Tony could just grab cap, fly up high and drop him from the stratosphere.
Also Tony could just grab cap, fly up high and drop him from the stratosphere.
If Tony has the suit, I'm not sure how this is even a question.
So do gorillas, and I'm pretty sure Iron Man could still blast the shit out of one.
Why are people using Tony's fight against Thanos as evidence?
They were fighting fighting on a planet with wonky gravity, affected by Thanos' manipulation of reality, Tony had a team of heroes including the sorcerer supreme, and he STILL got ragdolled.
He was toying with them that entire fight, same thing he did with the Heroes on Earth. Only difference is they fought an entire war first before they fought Thanos.
I still think Iron Man has a better chance to win, but his "feats" against Thanos are near irrelevant. He could have instantly killed them all if he wanted to.
They were fighting fighting on a planet with wonky gravity, affected by Thanos' manipulation of reality, Tony had a team of heroes including the sorcerer supreme, and he STILL got ragdolled.
He was toying with them that entire fight, same thing he did with the Heroes on Earth. Only difference is they fought an entire war first before they fought Thanos.
I still think Iron Man has a better chance to win, but his "feats" against Thanos are near irrelevant. He could have instantly killed them all if he wanted to.
Tony wasn't trying to kill Steve, just Bucky and the only reason Steve won on the end was 2v1 and existing dmg
And Tony was right in Civil War
And Steve wasn't trying to kill Tony either? But he beat him to the point of destroying his suit - and could've just decapitated him right there. Bucky also bows out of that fight quite early, after his arm gets blown off.
Again, Tony could've killed him multiple times before then
Uh... You mean the part where the seemingly unconscious Bucky grabbed Tony's leg and gave Cap the chance to make a comeback? That allowed Cap to attack Tony from behind. It doesn't speak to Cap's actual ability.
if you pick no suit
then it's also no super soldier serum
either way ironman wins
When they truly go one on one, while Thanos is clearly in another class, Tony is able to successfully block several of Thanos' attacks including a stone-powered energy blast, and is able to cause Thanos' body to fly through the air multiple times. Thanos wails on Tony with his fists multiple times and Tony still gets up and continues the attack.
In fact at about 1:13 in this clip, Tony blocks a backhand by Thanos' gauntlet hand.
Going by what we see of Cap's encounter with Thanos, that backhand would have ended him then and there.
How does this compare to the "fight" between Thanos and Cap? Cap does absolutely nothing, can't even move Thanos' limp hand, and is absolutely finished after one single punch.
All over the world, every single day, writers are reading statements like this and quietly whispering "Challenge accepted." Pratchett warned us about the power of story.
BronsonLee Can I make a "bunch of MCU members walk into a bar, who falls unconscious last" Topic or is that too similar to this one?