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Carmack hopeful of reengaging with ID Software
- Thread starter Contraband
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i mean he could engage in a possible Oculus VR compatible with xbox with an Exclusive ID Vr game for it.
It seems we are misunderstanding each other. I said he wasn't leaving Facebook to get back into video games, which is what people in this thread were saying. That would be a huge step back from General AI, going full time video games. You disagreed.
We are.
I didn't see this as him going full time into video games, just doing consulting work. The man loves to be busy.
Wow. Not putting straight white men constitute "design concessions". Putting non-white, non-straight, non-male protagonist/playable characters in typical genre titles as well atypical ones so that white men may walk in the shoes of all other minorities who walk in theirs in a multibillion dollar industry, eclipsing even movies, is "playing politics". I suppose it is "playing politics" and so was the prior status quo of largely having straight white men. Of course, coming from him and his ilk, it is meant as a derogatory term intended to disparage anything that veers from their notion of said status quo, wholesale.
Speaks to white privilege endemic to western society at large but which was (and to an extent still is) very much pronounced gaming industry for the longest time comprising of few very influential people dissociated from reality.
Lol, that's endearing.
This also might make a huge amount of sense as far as partnerships go. Microsoft has huge investments and is near the forefront of AI tech, including in gaming. Although people think Xbox hates VR or something, Microsoft as a company still has significant investments (and ongoing support) in mixed reality content and hardware, and how that integrates with all sorts of other things, as well. There's a lot that a company like MS could provide Carmack with in a lab. (Not necessarily a studio)
This also might make a huge amount of sense as far as partnerships go. Microsoft has huge investments and is near the forefront of AI tech, including in gaming. Although people think Xbox hates VR or something, Microsoft as a company still has significant investments (and ongoing support) in mixed reality content and hardware, and how that integrates with all sorts of other things, as well. There's a lot that a company like MS could provide Carmack with in a lab. (Not necessarily a studio)
Does that even extend to their game projects, and not simply their applications?
Ridiculous take. Carmack is not in a position where he needs to shop around for jobs.
Sometimes, Carmack gives a weird feeling of being an advanced IA that finds interesting the act of learning how to be Human.
I listened to his Oculus connect keynote today. He's obviously frustrated with the bureaucracy at Facebook and the number of competing teams and services that are impacting on the overall product quality. Seems like a 'do things right but get them done' kinda guy. Who wouldn't want someone like that on the team?
Fairly certain he was talking about doing official VR support for the open source stuff he has out there.
Dr. Beef has basically gotten Quest ports for all the ID games through Doom 3.
He was asked about this in the Venues talk:
youtu.be
He e-mailed Zenimax to ask if he could work on the project. Since it was open source, he didn't think it was legally required, but he contacted them regardless. He got no response, so he didn't join the project in order to shield them. But he talked about how it'd be awesome to have these games on the official store.
Dr. Beef has basically gotten Quest ports for all the ID games through Doom 3.
He was asked about this in the Venues talk:
John Carmack - Special Horizon Chat || Facebook Connect
I had the absolute honor of being able to join Oculus Developer and all-around brilliant human being John Carmack and a small group of others in Facebook Hor...
youtu.be
He e-mailed Zenimax to ask if he could work on the project. Since it was open source, he didn't think it was legally required, but he contacted them regardless. He got no response, so he didn't join the project in order to shield them. But he talked about how it'd be awesome to have these games on the official store.
Nobody can work on a tech demo alone these days.
Also all the takes on "give him Quake" etc. are ridiculous. Carmack was never a game designer, he did technology things and nothing else.
Carmack: reads this post
no one:
Carmack: tells family to hold beer and codes the next evolution of graphics rendering over 1 weekend
As long as we're talking just prototypes and not actually usable stuff, never understimate a sufficiently determined single programmer
Programming scales LIKE SHIT. 100 programmers on a project is MAYBE 10x the output of 10, and that's a very strong maybe
(I'm talking about small domain stuff, obviously - not things you can easily divide in subprocjets)
(a renderer core is one of these things)
No prophet makes two prophecies
Except Miyamoto
Seriously, what the fuck is up with that guy? Incredible output
Yup it's this.Fairly certain he was talking about doing official VR support for the open source stuff he has out there.
Dr. Beef has basically gotten Quest ports for all the ID games through Doom 3.
He was asked about this in the Venues talk:
John Carmack - Special Horizon Chat || Facebook Connect
I had the absolute honor of being able to join Oculus Developer and all-around brilliant human being John Carmack and a small group of others in Facebook Hor...
He e-mailed Zenimax to ask if he could work on the project. Since it was open source, he didn't think it was legally required, but he contacted them regardless. He got no response, so he didn't join the project in order to shield them. But he talked about how it'd be awesome to have these games on the official store.
The dude comes across as a massive Ayn Rand fan tbh. Sure, he can be empathetic at times, but I can't help but feel he is a die hard libertarian at heart.
Maybe Carmack can convince Spencer to give Series X VR compatibility. ES 6/next Fallout need to have fleshed out VR modes.
The man is a robot.
I recall the story in Masters of Doom where a child psychologist commented that he had no empathy and was a computer on legs or something.
I hope this doesn't come off as excusing his behavior but his perception of the world in some regards is...suboptimal, especially more so with our more inclusive mindset.
Carmack to me comes across as someone who is so intelligent and knowledgeable that he can't properly relate to other people. It probably doesn't help that he's always looked like how movies and tv shows would portray a "super evil computer nerd kid" character in the 1990s. I'd love it if he returned to the industry, but he's probably over it when more important endeavors are potentially open to him.
more so than being smart or not, I think it kinda screws you up somewhat to become a millionaire at 20.
Lol, I was going to bring up the same quote. If I remember it was "a brain on legs" right?
The dude's brain doesn't work like a normal persons. It doesn't excuse his poor politics or views, but the dude doesn't function the same way normal people do. He has a lot of signs of Asperger's.
And you underestimate the complexities of modern rendering pipelines. Nanite took Epic years with dozens of programmers.
There are no one man shows anymore.
Also lots of what Carmack is credited for isn't even his work, e.g. large amounts of the practical Megatexture implementation was largely written by JMP van Waveren (may he rest in peace). Or the Quake software renderer was Michael Abrash. Even back then he wasn't the one single dude doing everything.
In making useful code?
Certainly not
In making limited-scope proof-of-concepts for features?
Sometimes. Rarely, but from the limited knowledge i have of operations on that scale, it's still possible
I said the same for Phil Fish and got lambasted. But anyone who watched the indie game movie should find it obvious. Unfortunately the biggest talents often have an addictive mentality that causes them to be so completely obsessive about their work from a young age, that they spend so little time in the real world integrating and engaging with society. It's no excuse for the resulting and often shocking terrible opinions and beliefs, but it's merely an explanation. They do need to be called out though.